iTunes Music Store also supports RSS feeds, including a custom feed
generator:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wo/0.1

On Sep 3, 2004, at 1:18 AM, Dave Winer wrote:

> Microsoft's new music service supports RSS [1] with feeds for the top
>  100 songs [2] albums [3] and artists [4].
>
>  The top songs feed even has enclosures [5] with an excerpts of the
>  song.
>
>  [1] http://beta.music.msn.com/music/rss
>  [2] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topsongs
>  [3] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topalbums
>  [4] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topartists
>  [5] http://www.thetwowayweb.com/payloadsforrss
>
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I'm currently looking at Plone/Zope as a possible content management
system for a project. I came across this interesting post on ZopeZen:

http://www.zopezen.org/Members/andy/news_item.2004-08-06.1348974096

Apparently Plone 2 exposes all search results as RSS.

This means that I can subscribe to an RSS feed which is tailored to my
wishes. I could, for example set up an RSS subscription which only
changes when posts containing a specific word or phase is added to the
site. A suitably set up Plone site would also allow me to specify
other metadata, such as content type (image, audio file etc.).

Using the (very long!) example search feed URL on the page referred to
above, I have subscribed to a feed from the ZopeZen site showing only
items which contain the word London, simply by adding this to the
SearchableText parameter in the URL.

Another benefit is that it would provide a standard format for search
results, making search aggregators easier to produce, and also make it
easy to add search functions to existing RSS aggregators.

This may well be more widespread than I'm aware of, but it looks like
a really fruitful approach.

Looking at these feeds, I see:

<item>
<title>Greatest Hits:  Night Ranger</title>
<link>http://beta.music.msn.com/album/?album=10016566</link>
<description>Greatest Hits:  Night Ranger by Night Ranger</description>
<pubDate>6/12/1989 12:00:00 AM</pubDate>
<category>Rock</category>
</item>

I thought pubDate was suppose to be an RFC 822 date?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Winer [mailto:dwiner@...]
> Sent: 03 September, 2004 01:18
> To: rss-user@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rss-user] Microsoft's new music service supports RSS
>
> Microsoft's new music service supports RSS [1] with feeds for
> the top 100 songs [2] albums [3] and artists [4].
>
> The top songs feed even has enclosures [5] with an excerpts
> of the song.
>
> [1] http://beta.music.msn.com/music/rss
> [2] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topsongs
> [3] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topalbums
> [4] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topartists
> [5] http://www.thetwowayweb.com/payloadsforrss
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Microsoft's new music service supports RSS [1] with feeds for the top
100 songs [2] albums [3] and artists [4].

The top songs feed even has enclosures [5] with an excerpts of the
song.

[1] http://beta.music.msn.com/music/rss
[2] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topsongs
[3] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topalbums
[4] http://beta.music.msn.com/services/rss.aspx?chartname=topartists
[5] http://www.thetwowayweb.com/payloadsforrss

you can still view it at archive.org

http://web.archive.org/web/20030401204733/http://gils.utah.gov/rss/

joly (first post - hi everybody)

>Was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the very nice RSS tutorial
>that used to live on the Utah.gov site, link below:
>
>http://gils.utah.gov/rss/
>
>Now it just goes to a blank page, don't even get a 404. :-(
>
>I used to share it with friends when I got them interested enough in RSS
>to want to learn more. If it is gone for good, I would be delighted to
>get any recommendations of other sites which might replace it.
>
>TIA,
>
>Barbara

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Try http://www.rssgov.com/rssworkshop.html .  Ray Matthews, the site's
author, had to switch servers some time ago.

Thank you, Ray!  This list of resources he pulled together got me
started with RSS.

Ken

--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Nachtigall
<Barbara_Nachtigall@c...> wrote:
> Was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the very nice RSS
tutorial
> that used to live on the Utah.gov site, link below:
>
> http://gils.utah.gov/rss/
>
> Now it just goes to a blank page, don't even get a 404. :-(
>
> I used to share it with friends when I got them interested enough in
RSS
> to want to learn more. If it is gone for good, I would be delighted to
> get any recommendations of other sites which might replace it.
>
> TIA,
>
> Barbara
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Barbara Nachtigall
> Roslindale, Massachusetts
> http://quikonnex.com/channel/page/tinuviel-buffyisms
> http://www.quikonnex.com/channel/page/tinuviel-dyeing101

Was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the very nice RSS tutorial
that used to live on the Utah.gov site, link below:

http://gils.utah.gov/rss/

Now it just goes to a blank page, don't even get a 404. :-(

I used to share it with friends when I got them interested enough in RSS
to want to learn more. If it is gone for good, I would be delighted to
get any recommendations of other sites which might replace it.

TIA,

Barbara

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barbara Nachtigall
Roslindale, Massachusetts
http://quikonnex.com/channel/page/tinuviel-buffyisms
http://www.quikonnex.com/channel/page/tinuviel-dyeing101

We just started up the convention bloggers site for the Republican
National Convention...

http://rnc.conventionbloggers.com/

Dave

NewsGator Media Center Edition
(http://services.newsgator.com/ProdInfo_mce.aspx) has support for audio and
video enclosures...basically, the user sees visual cues that audio or video
is available, and can start it playing with the remote control.  They would
be able to play your streaming Windows Media audio files, with an awesome
user experience while they're sitting on their couch.

If you'd like any details, please contact me.  You pretty much just need to
put in your audio URL's as enclosures, with the correct MIME type for the
Windows Media (I can look these up if you need them), and they will
automatically work.  We might also be able to make them "Featured Feeds" if
you'd like - let me know if you'd like to chat about this.

Greg Reinacker
NewsGator Technologies
http://www.newsgator.com
http://services.newsgator.com



-----Original Message-----
From: nprdolby [mailto:rholt@...]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:43 PM
To: rss-user@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rss-user] Re: NPR has RSS!!!

That's a great idea.

We currently offer no downloadable audio formats-- only streaming Real and
Windows Media.  We're looking into offering downloadable formats.

Assuming we add downloadable formats, how well does the enclosure work with
audio files?  WNYC's enclosures are all images...

The only aggregator I've seen that renders enclosures is Radio (I'm a huge
fan)-- what other readers support that?  And how do they deal with audio
enclosures?

--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Winer" <dwiner@c...> wrote:
> Actually there is one thing I would love to see on all the NPR
feeds,
> use of the enclosure element, as WNYC is doing.
>
> http://www.wnyc.org/index.xml
>
> What this means is that I can automatically download the segment to my
> iPod and listen when I'm walking or driving, to the shows I want to
> listen to, not necessarily what's being broadcast. And further,
I
> might be somewhere where there is no NPR station, why shouldn't I
> still be able to tune into Fresh Air. The important thing is that
the
> download is automatic when the enclosure is there. No human
> supervision required, no click-wait. NPR would be helping bootstrap
a
> new network if you supported this across all your feeds.
>
> Dave




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That's a great idea.

We currently offer no downloadable audio formats-- only streaming Real
and Windows Media.  We're looking into offering downloadable formats.

Assuming we add downloadable formats, how well does the enclosure work
with audio files?  WNYC's enclosures are all images...

The only aggregator I've seen that renders enclosures is Radio (I'm a
huge fan)-- what other readers support that?  And how do they deal
with audio enclosures?

--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Winer" <dwiner@c...> wrote:
> Actually there is one thing I would love to see on all the NPR
feeds,
> use of the enclosure element, as WNYC is doing.
>
> http://www.wnyc.org/index.xml
>
> What this means is that I can automatically download the segment to
> my iPod and listen when I'm walking or driving, to the shows I want
> to listen to, not necessarily what's being broadcast. And further,
I
> might be somewhere where there is no NPR station, why shouldn't I
> still be able to tune into Fresh Air. The important thing is that
the
> download is automatic when the enclosure is there. No human
> supervision required, no click-wait. NPR would be helping bootstrap
a
> new network if you supported this across all your feeds.
>
> Dave

Actually there is one thing I would love to see on all the NPR feeds,
use of the enclosure element, as WNYC is doing.

http://www.wnyc.org/index.xml

What this means is that I can automatically download the segment to
my iPod and listen when I'm walking or driving, to the shows I want
to listen to, not necessarily what's being broadcast. And further, I
might be somewhere where there is no NPR station, why shouldn't I
still be able to tune into Fresh Air. The important thing is that the
download is automatic when the enclosure is there. No human
supervision required, no click-wait. NPR would be helping bootstrap a
new network if you supported this across all your feeds.

Dave

Robert, your feeds look great, don't change a thing. You're using the
<link> element correctly. And thanks for adding the new feeds, they
will be much appreciated. A loyal NPR listener, Dave



--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "nprdolby" <rholt@n...> wrote:
> I wrote NPR's RSS generator-- and correct me if I'm wrong, there's
> never an href included--  there's simply a <link> tag enclosing the
> URL.  I've never seen an RSS 2.0 feed that includes the A HREF-- I
> think it's superfluous.  The feed works in every aggregator I've
> tried, and it validatess just fine at feedvalidator.org.
>
> Robert Holt
> NPR
>
> Also-- program RSS feeds are coming soon to the public, but you can
> see them now:
>
> All Things Considered
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=ATC
>
> Morning Edition
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=ME
>
> Day to Day
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=DAY
>
> Tavis Smiley
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=TAVIS
>
> Motley Fool
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=FOOL
>
> Weekend Edition Sunday
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=WESUN
>
> Weekend Edition Saturday
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=WESAT
>
> Talk of the Nation
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=TOTN
>
> Fresh Air
> http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=FA
>
> ...also-- more topics are coming...
>
> --- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <hikerdad39@y...> wrote:
> > This is great.  However, can someone explain why the links that
> appear
> > in the HTML page aren't appearing in the feed as it is displayed
by
> my
> > aggregator?  The "a href" doesn't appear in the xml.  It appears
as
> > though it is being stripped from the feed.

Trudy, weblogs predate RSS, so no, they have not always had RSS. Mine
(Scripting News) was the first to have a feed, staring in December
1997, but there weren't any aggregators until 1999. The summer of
1999 is when blogs-with-feeds started to be reasonably common.
Blogger didn't have RSS at inception (around this time in 1999). Not
sure exactly when they added it but a note about it is probably in
the archive of Scripting News. Radio-with-RSS didn't ship in any
meaningful way (there were earlier betas) until January 2002.


--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Trudy W. Schuett"
<cybermaneditor@m...> wrote:
> I'm working on a piece for the Dr. Hill's Partners blog promo group
being
> held at Tobacco Road Fogey. http://s90209925.onlinehome.us/trfogey/
>
> Have blogs always had RSS? (I'm relating back to inception of Radio
Userland
> as a point of reference.)
>
> Did Pyra include RSS when it launched?
>
> I appreciate the help!
>
> Trudy W. Schuett
> _____________________
> http://wolves.typepad.com/wolves/
> http://desertlightjournal.blog-city.com/index.cfm
> http://www.thegodblog.com
> http://trudywschuett.tblog.com/
> http://wolves.typepad.com/food_basics/
> http://positive-stories.blog-city.com/
> http://dragonbook.blog-city.com/

I wrote NPR's RSS generator-- and correct me if I'm wrong, there's
never an href included--  there's simply a <link> tag enclosing the
URL.  I've never seen an RSS 2.0 feed that includes the A HREF-- I
think it's superfluous.  The feed works in every aggregator I've
tried, and it validatess just fine at feedvalidator.org.

Robert Holt
NPR

Also-- program RSS feeds are coming soon to the public, but you can
see them now:

All Things Considered
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=ATC

Morning Edition
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=ME

Day to Day
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=DAY

Tavis Smiley
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=TAVIS

Motley Fool
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=FOOL

Weekend Edition Sunday
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=WESUN

Weekend Edition Saturday
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=WESAT

Talk of the Nation
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=TOTN

Fresh Air
http://www.npr.org/rss/rss.php?prgCode=FA

...also-- more topics are coming...

--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <hikerdad39@y...> wrote:
> This is great.  However, can someone explain why the links that
appear
> in the HTML page aren't appearing in the feed as it is displayed by
my
> aggregator?  The "a href" doesn't appear in the xml.  It appears as
> though it is being stripped from the feed.

I'm working on a piece for the Dr. Hill's Partners blog promo group being
held at Tobacco Road Fogey. http://s90209925.onlinehome.us/trfogey/

Have blogs always had RSS? (I'm relating back to inception of Radio Userland
as a point of reference.)

Did Pyra include RSS when it launched?

I appreciate the help!

Trudy W. Schuett
_____________________
http://wolves.typepad.com/wolves/
http://desertlightjournal.blog-city.com/index.cfm
http://www.thegodblog.com
http://trudywschuett.tblog.com/
http://wolves.typepad.com/food_basics/
http://positive-stories.blog-city.com/
http://dragonbook.blog-city.com/

Here's my own entry in the political aggregation sweepstakes. ;->

http://www.conventionbloggers.com/

Dave

Hi All,

I know that Andrew tried to mail this to the group last week after I
showed him and while I know that touting your own stuff is a no, no, with
the DNC officially underway, its really, really useful (we're getting rave
comments being emailed into us):

http://politics.feedster.com/

And just to be fair to other people doing similar things, you should also
check out:

http://politics.technorati.com/

Best
Scott "Yes I wrote http://politics.feedster.com" Johnson of Feedster

This is great.  However, can someone explain why the links that appear
in the HTML page aren't appearing in the feed as it is displayed by my
aggregator?  The "a href" doesn't appear in the xml.  It appears as
though it is being stripped from the feed.

--- In rss-user@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Winer" <dwiner@c...> wrote:
> http://www.npr.org/rss/index.html

http://www.npr.org/rss/index.html

 

 

Hi all, first post

I have created rss feeds from information on a 'contact us' page on a
website for a client.  The information is used to create a follow-up
reminder for those in the company who subscribe to the feed.  But it
shouldn't be accessible by just anyone since it contains name, address,
phone, etc.  Can I add password protection to the feed?

Joel Goldstick

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:40:10 -0700, Trudy W. Schuett
<cybermaneditor@...> wrote:
>
> Why does the author's name have to be included at all?

You can edit your RSS feeds and remove it.  I couldn't get to your
godblog site but if you're using Movable Type (I see you're using
TypePad for a couple blogs so I'm hazarding a guess), you can go to
Templates and edit your RSS feeds there to remove the author name.

--
hth,
texas critter

EL-M FAQ: http://www.emaillist-managers.com/
EL-M Google: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/emaillist-managers

>Why does the author's name have to be included at all?

Actually the author element is not required, it's optional.

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trudy W. Schuett" <cybermaneditor@...>
To: <rss-user@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:40 AM
Subject: [rss-user] author names in RSS feeds


> Dave said, "Why do the author names have to be in uppercase, and why
include
> the word By in the name? I've become such a aggregator-potato when it
comes
> to my NYT feeds, any change makes me want to read the Daily News (well,
not
> really). I care who the author is, but please, uppercase is like SCREAMING
> at me, and my aggregator already inserts the word "by" so now I get "by
by"
> followed by by some guy's NAME in upper case."
> http://archive.scripting.com/2004/06/28#When:1:01:06AM
>
> Why does the author's name have to be included at all? Since I maintain
> blogs not just for myself, but for my chamber of commerce and my church,
> this has been a perennial problem for me. I don't write any of the
material
> on The God Blog, my minister does it all, but it always comes up with my
> name. This further complicates an issue we've had to deal with for a long
> time -- the fact that her first name and mine are the same. I'm always
> explaining to somebody that I'm not a minister, I'm just the tech dept. of
> the operation! ;>)
>
> I suspect this goes back to days when blogs were an entirely personal
> matter. But it really does need to be addressed.
>
>
> Trudy W. Schuett
> _____________________
> http://wolves.typepad.com/wolves/
> http://desertlightjournal.blog-city.com/index.cfm
> http://www.thegodblog.com
> http://trudywschuett.tblog.com/
> http://wolves.typepad.com/food_basics/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Dave said, "Why do the author names have to be in uppercase, and why include
the word By in the name? I've become such a aggregator-potato when it comes
to my NYT feeds, any change makes me want to read the Daily News (well, not
really). I care who the author is, but please, uppercase is like SCREAMING
at me, and my aggregator already inserts the word "by" so now I get "by by"
followed by by some guy's NAME in upper case."
http://archive.scripting.com/2004/06/28#When:1:01:06AM

Why does the author's name have to be included at all? Since I maintain
blogs not just for myself, but for my chamber of commerce and my church,
this has been a perennial problem for me. I don't write any of the material
on The God Blog, my minister does it all, but it always comes up with my
name. This further complicates an issue we've had to deal with for a long
time -- the fact that her first name and mine are the same. I'm always
explaining to somebody that I'm not a minister, I'm just the tech dept. of
the operation! ;>)

I suspect this goes back to days when blogs were an entirely personal
matter. But it really does need to be addressed.


Trudy W. Schuett
_____________________
http://wolves.typepad.com/wolves/
http://desertlightjournal.blog-city.com/index.cfm
http://www.thegodblog.com
http://trudywschuett.tblog.com/
http://wolves.typepad.com/food_basics/

Hello,

Just wanted to pass on the BBC feed for Wimbeldon. It includes match
updates and results.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/sportonline_uk_edition/tennis/rss091.xml