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#206 From: "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Minutes of the Dec. 9 meeting
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A few items that I missed in this post for consideration for presentations next
year.

DITA for Mobile
Relationship Tables
DITA maps (base and Bookmap)

Happy Holidays again. :D

Julio J. Vazquez
SDI Global Solutions

--- In rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com, "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...> wrote:
>
> RTP attendees:
>
> Frank Tangari - SDI
> Julio Vazquez - SDI
> Larry Kunz - SDI
> Kris Eberlein - OASIS, Eberlein Consulting
> Jim Green - Quark, Inc.
> Mike Iantosca - IBM
>
> Boston and Rhode Island attended virtually.
>
> A lively meeting this month. I started by going through the results of the
survey I posted on surveymonkey.com last month. The survey itself lead to an
interesting collection of comments and ideas which I will enumerate a little
later on in the email.
>
> A recording of the meeting is available at
http://www.yousendit.com/download/MVNmV0orK3hWRC9IRGc9PQ and will be available
for 14 days.
>
> We developed a tentative schedule for part of next year. The list currently
includes:
>
> Jan. - Neil Perlin on Help Tools that support DITA (actual title and details
to come)
> Feb. - Overview of DITA 1.2 (Robert Anderson and Kris Eberlein to work out
details)
> Mar. - Introduction to DITA - presenter TBD (maybe myself and/or Larry Kunz)
> Apr. - Editor bake-off - # TBD
> May - Learning and Training Specialization - John Hunt
> June - Producing PDFs with Bookmap - presenter TBD
> July - Demo of IAWB - Kris Eberlein or myself
>
> There were suggestions for other topics that were not identified in the survey
results and those are listed here but the extended discussion is in the
recording.
>
> Constraining DITA - Hal Trent (Comtech)?
> Geeks don't sell DITA - Jang Graat
> Problems well-meaning but not-well-informed authors can create - Frank Miller
(Comtech)
> XML Author - Jim Green
> What is Academia doing with XML? - (I paraphrased, sorry Mike) someone from a
local university, (in RTP either NC State, UNC or Duke)
> Expansions of articles in CIDM newsletter by writer
>
> One question that did not come out in the survey and is something that we need
to ask those newer to DITA is, What don't you know that you really want to know?
Those with an answer to that question feel free to post a response.
>
> There was also discussion about how to promote the groups and suggestions came
out to announce meetings to local STC and ASTD chapters. We will need folks to
help coordinate that effort. For those who expressed interest in helping, some
forgot to include contact information and it would be appreciated if you
contacted Liz or myself with that.
>
> There was also a discussion about the groups running a workshop for more
novice DITA users and it was agreed that effort would have to be coordinated by
each group, assuming the group had the resources to actually accomplish this.
>
> Since last night, Scriptorium announces a set of webinars for a couple of DITA
tools. The webinars are free and I encourage those interested in oXygen or DITA
FMx to attend. Details are here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/blog/2009/12/2010-a-dita-odyssey.html#utm_source=rss&\
utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=2010-a-dita-odyssey.
>
> Have a great holiday and see you all in 2010!
>
> Julio J. Vazquez
> SDI Global Solutions
>

#205 From: "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: Minutes of the Dec. 9 meeting
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RTP attendees:

Frank Tangari - SDI
Julio Vazquez - SDI
Larry Kunz - SDI
Kris Eberlein - OASIS, Eberlein Consulting
Jim Green - Quark, Inc.
Mike Iantosca - IBM

Boston and Rhode Island attended virtually.

A lively meeting this month. I started by going through the results of the
survey I posted on surveymonkey.com last month. The survey itself lead to an
interesting collection of comments and ideas which I will enumerate a little
later on in the email.

A recording of the meeting is available at
http://www.yousendit.com/download/MVNmV0orK3hWRC9IRGc9PQ and will be available
for 14 days.

We developed a tentative schedule for part of next year. The list currently
includes:

Jan. - Neil Perlin on Help Tools that support DITA (actual title and details to
come)
Feb. - Overview of DITA 1.2 (Robert Anderson and Kris Eberlein to work out
details)
Mar. - Introduction to DITA - presenter TBD (maybe myself and/or Larry Kunz)
Apr. - Editor bake-off - # TBD
May - Learning and Training Specialization - John Hunt
June - Producing PDFs with Bookmap - presenter TBD
July - Demo of IAWB - Kris Eberlein or myself

There were suggestions for other topics that were not identified in the survey
results and those are listed here but the extended discussion is in the
recording.

Constraining DITA - Hal Trent (Comtech)?
Geeks don't sell DITA - Jang Graat
Problems well-meaning but not-well-informed authors can create - Frank Miller
(Comtech)
XML Author - Jim Green
What is Academia doing with XML? - (I paraphrased, sorry Mike) someone from a
local university, (in RTP either NC State, UNC or Duke)
Expansions of articles in CIDM newsletter by writer

One question that did not come out in the survey and is something that we need
to ask those newer to DITA is, What don't you know that you really want to know?
Those with an answer to that question feel free to post a response.

There was also discussion about how to promote the groups and suggestions came
out to announce meetings to local STC and ASTD chapters. We will need folks to
help coordinate that effort. For those who expressed interest in helping, some
forgot to include contact information and it would be appreciated if you
contacted Liz or myself with that.

There was also a discussion about the groups running a workshop for more novice
DITA users and it was agreed that effort would have to be coordinated by each
group, assuming the group had the resources to actually accomplish this.

Since last night, Scriptorium announces a set of webinars for a couple of DITA
tools. The webinars are free and I encourage those interested in oXygen or DITA
FMx to attend. Details are here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/blog/2009/12/2010-a-dita-odyssey.html#utm_source=rss&\
utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=2010-a-dita-odyssey.

Have a great holiday and see you all in 2010!

Julio J. Vazquez
SDI Global Solutions

#204 From: "James" <jamessimonster@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: Stellant
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Just an update for any interested parties. It looks like we are going to go with
Arbortext for the editor, content manager and publishing engine.  Their CCM can
sit on top of Oracle, satisfying our Oracle requirement.

--- In rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jamessimonster@...> wrote:
>
> that would be most helpful Kris..can you email them  to simonj@...?
>

#203 From: "Peggy Harvey" <paharvey@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: RE: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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Hi,

 

I’m new to the group (and DITA) and I’m going to try to make it to the meeting tomorrow.  I’m in the M.S. in TechComm program at NC State.  A friend suggested I join the group to learn more about DITA (in preparation for the capstone project I’ll be doing next semester, where I plan to use DITA to create an online Help system).  I’m looking forward to meeting everyone and learning more about the group.

 

Peggy Harvey

 

From: rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of juliov27612
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:44 PM
To: rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rtp-dita] Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting

 

 

Hi folks –

Just a reminder about our Wednesday meeting. Please let me know if you plan to attend. Come make your voice heard and help us choose topics for next year!

Meeting will start at 5:30 and be another joint meeting with the Boston UG. We will discuss the results of the survey we ran for next year's topics and there will be snacks.

Make it a point to join us at the SDI offices, 1005 Slater Road, Suite 220, Durham, NC on Wed. Dec. 9 for the final meeting of 2009!


#202 From: "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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Kris,

Thanks for responding to this.

James,

It would be great to have you present. We can discuss details at the meeting.
The survey does show interest in authoring tools and you'll fit right in. :D

#201 From: Kristen James Eberlein <kris@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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Of course you are welcome to attend our meetings. Here is the address:

Systems Documentation, Inc
1005 Slater Road, Suite 220
Durham, NC 27703


You can use Mapquest.com to get precise driving directions from your location, or here are some general directions:

From Durham:
  1. Take 147 South.
  2. Merge onto I-40 East.
  3. Exit at Page Road (Exit 282).
  4. Drive straight ahead through the intersection and merge onto Emperor Blvd.
  5. Turn left onto Slater Road. The building is on the left.
From Raleigh
  1. Take I-40 West.
  2. Exit at Page Road (Exit 282).
  3. Turn right onto Page Road.
  4. Turn left onto Emperor Blvd.
  5. Turn left onto Slater Road. The building is on the left.
Best,

Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)


Jim Green wrote:
 

Julio,
 
Good morning.  I am a member of the DITA Group.  I work for Quark and we have a product that supports DITA within Microsoft Word, called XML Author.  Since I am a member of the group would it be OK for me to attend the meeting on December 9, 2009?  I am in Raleigh this week for meetings.  If so, could you please give me directions to SDI?  In addition, I would like to make a presentation to your group in 2010.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim Green
(321) 591-8669

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#200 From: Jim Green <jgreen1120@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 11:48 am
Subject: Re: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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Julio,
 
Good morning.  I am a member of the DITA Group.  I work for Quark and we have a product that supports DITA within Microsoft Word, called XML Author.  Since I am a member of the group would it be OK for me to attend the meeting on December 9, 2009?  I am in Raleigh this week for meetings.  If so, could you please give me directions to SDI?  In addition, I would like to make a presentation to your group in 2010.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim Green
(321) 591-8669

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, juliov27612 <jvazquez@...> wrote:

From: juliov27612 <jvazquez@...>
Subject: [rtp-dita] Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
To: rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 3:44 PM

 
Hi folks –

Just a reminder about our Wednesday meeting. Please let me know if you plan to attend. Come make your voice heard and help us choose topics for next year!

Meeting will start at 5:30 and be another joint meeting with the Boston UG. We will discuss the results of the survey we ran for next year's topics and there will be snacks.

Make it a point to join us at the SDI offices, 1005 Slater Road, Suite 220, Durham, NC on Wed. Dec. 9 for the final meeting of 2009!



#199 From: Kristen James Eberlein <kris@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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I will be there.

Best,

Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)


juliov27612 wrote:
 

Hi folks –

Just a reminder about our Wednesday meeting. Please let me know if you plan to attend. Come make your voice heard and help us choose topics for next year!

Meeting will start at 5:30 and be another joint meeting with the Boston UG. We will discuss the results of the survey we ran for next year's topics and there will be snacks.

Make it a point to join us at the SDI offices, 1005 Slater Road, Suite 220, Durham, NC on Wed. Dec. 9 for the final meeting of 2009!


#198 From: "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 8:44 pm
Subject: Dec. 9 User's Group Meeting
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Hi folks –

Just a reminder about our Wednesday meeting. Please let me know if you plan to
attend. Come make your voice heard and help us choose topics for next year!

Meeting will start at 5:30 and be another joint meeting with the Boston UG. We
will discuss the results of the survey we ran for next year's topics and there
will be snacks.

Make it a point to join us at the SDI offices, 1005 Slater Road, Suite 220,
Durham, NC on Wed. Dec. 9 for the final meeting of 2009!

#197 From: "James" <jamessimonster@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Stellant
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that would be most helpful Kris..can you email them  to simonj@...?

#196 From: "James" <jamessimonster@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Stellant
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there is the rub, I have seen claims that it is XML aware and works with DITA,
but can find no details about it, which makes me suspicious

--- In rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com, Jim Green <jgreen1120@...> wrote:
>
> James,
>  
> Is the Stellant CMS XML aware?  I am not sure.  You need to make sure that
the CMS you are thinking about using is XML aware.  Otherwise, you would only
be storing XML as a blob in the database.
>  
> Jim Green
>
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, James <jamessimonster@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: James <jamessimonster@...>
> Subject: [rtp-dita] Stellant
> To: rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:40 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> We are trying to move to DITA at the company I am working at. They use Oracle
and have said any content management/publishi ng solution we use must be able to
use Oracle as the database. I know Oracle recently purchased Stellent. I cannot
seem to find any information on how well the two play with DITA. Does anyone
have any knowledge or experience with this?
>

#195 From: Kristen James Eberlein <kris@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: Stellant
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James, if you want the names of some DITA users at Oracle, I'd be glad to provide them.

Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting
Secretary, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 682-2290; keberlein (skype)


James wrote:
 

We are trying to move to DITA at the company I am working at. They use Oracle and have said any content management/publishing solution we use must be able to use Oracle as the database. I know Oracle recently purchased Stellent. I cannot seem to find any information on how well the two play with DITA. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with this?


#194 From: Jim Green <jgreen1120@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: Stellant
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James,
 
Is the Stellant CMS XML aware?  I am not sure.  You need to make sure that the CMS you are thinking about using is XML aware.  Otherwise, you would only be storing XML as a blob in the database.
 
Jim Green

--- On Sun, 11/22/09, James <jamessimonster@...> wrote:

From: James <jamessimonster@...>
Subject: [rtp-dita] Stellant
To: rtp-dita@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:40 AM

 
We are trying to move to DITA at the company I am working at. They use Oracle and have said any content management/publishi ng solution we use must be able to use Oracle as the database. I know Oracle recently purchased Stellent. I cannot seem to find any information on how well the two play with DITA. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with this?



#193 From: "Julio Vazquez" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:15 pm
Subject: Stellant
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Hi James,
 
I don't have any experience with Stellant, but you may want to check the main DITA User's Group and ask the question there. As a larger population, someone may have some experience with it.

Thanks.

Julio J. Vazquez

919-354-1123

Author of Practical DITA

 
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#192 From: "James" <jamessimonster@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Stellant
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We are trying to move to DITA at the company I am working at. They use Oracle
and have said any content management/publishing solution we use must be able to
use Oracle as the database. I know Oracle recently purchased Stellent. I cannot
seem to find any information on how well the two play with DITA. Does anyone
have any knowledge or experience with this?

#191 From: "juliov27612" <jvazquez@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: Help us improve our meetings
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Hi everyone,

As you may be aware, our next meeting (Dec. 9) will be more of a social/planning
meeting. There will be snacks and discussion with the Boston/Rhode Island group
about what topics should be presented next year and any other burning topics.

To prepare for that meeting, the planning committee would appreciate it if all
members would participate in a short (6 questions) survey about what we've done
in the past and what would make sense for the future. We will present the
results at the Dec. 9 meeting and solicit any additional input.

Here's the link to the survey:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=u_2fdHR3gZMFofknJPLpLZaw_3d_3d

The survey closes Dec. 7 at 12 PM ET so we can analyze the results in time for
the meeting.

Thanks for your assistance.

Julio J. Vazquez
SDI Global Solutions

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