I wouldn't read *too* much into the Eclipse meeting being held outside of
JavaOne; there are a number of reasons why that might have happened,
including
(a) the organizers didn't get organized in time
(b) there was no room
(c) IBM didn't want Sun stealing its thunder over Eclipse

Recall that JiniFest, the gathering of Jini folks, also took place off-site.

I'm no fan of Sun's, but let's not read conspiracies where there likely
isn't one.

Ted Neward
{.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
(http://www.develop.com)
http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scheuble" <cscheuble@...>
To: "SacJUG Discussion" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Eclipse (Meeting at Java One)


> This is a take of the Eclipse meeting at Java One from Don Wills (DB/C
> Software http://www. dbcsoftware.com). I found it interesting...
>
> A highlight of this JavaOne was a gathering of Eclipse (see last month's
> newsletter) developers and users at a restaurant/bar across the street
from
> the JavaOne convention center.  This Eclipse meeting was not part of the
> official JavaOne program.  Rumor has it that the reason for the lack of
> official recognition is that Sun is threatened by Eclipse because it
> competes directly with Sun's NetBeans and Forte efforts.
>
> Erich Gamma (of 'Design Patterns' fame) is a primary architect of Eclipse.
> He was the main presenter at the Eclipse meeting.  He provided a detailed
> demo of many of the new features of Eclipse 2.0.  It was an amazing demo -
> the features were tremendous.  Programmers are going to love building
> software with Eclipse release 2.  It is apparent that IBM is quite serious
> about building the best programmer tools possible so that it can compete
> successfully against Microsoft and .Net Studio.
>
>
>
>
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This is a take of the Eclipse meeting at Java One from Don Wills (DB/C
Software http://www. dbcsoftware.com). I found it interesting...

A highlight of this JavaOne was a gathering of Eclipse (see last month's
newsletter) developers and users at a restaurant/bar across the street from
the JavaOne convention center.  This Eclipse meeting was not part of the
official JavaOne program.  Rumor has it that the reason for the lack of
official recognition is that Sun is threatened by Eclipse because it
competes directly with Sun's NetBeans and Forte efforts.

Erich Gamma (of 'Design Patterns' fame) is a primary architect of Eclipse.
He was the main presenter at the Eclipse meeting.  He provided a detailed
demo of many of the new features of Eclipse 2.0.  It was an amazing demo -
the features were tremendous.  Programmers are going to love building
software with Eclipse release 2.  It is apparent that IBM is quite serious
about building the best programmer tools possible so that it can compete
successfully against Microsoft and .Net Studio.

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AW CouponsHi Tim,

I am sorry I misunderstood the flyers had the coupons on them. But I managed to
get the coupons from AW and I have posted them on
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug/files/AW_Coupons.doc.

Best regards,
Tony.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tim B. White
   To: Tony John
   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:29 PM
   Subject: AW Coupons


   Where do I send the coupons to get the books?  The web site didn't help.

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No way--ADO.NET and JDO are two entirely different specs with different
goals. ADO.NET is the parallel to JDBC, not JDO.

Ted Neward
{.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
(http://www.develop.com)
http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

----- Original Message -----
From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
To: <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)


> I think it would be interesting if you could talk about JDO and then at
the end give us a comparison of ADO.NET :-).
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ted Neward
>   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:47 AM
>   Subject: Re: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>
>
>   If there's interest, I could probably do a talk on it.
>
>   Ted Neward
>   {.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
>   (http://www.develop.com)
>   http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
>   http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
>   To: "SacJUG" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:24 AM
>   Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>
>
>   > Please read the email attached below for a FREE Webinar on JDO.
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Robin Roos" <Robin@...>
>   > To: <sacjug-owner@yahoogroups.com>
>   > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:38 AM
>   > Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>   >
>   >
>   > > Dear Sacramento JUG Owner
>   > >
>   > > I am endeavouring to raise awareness of Java Data Objects (JDO)
within
>   the
>   > > wider Java community.  Please read the message below and, if you
find it
>   > > acceptable, please forward it to your group at Yahoo!Groups.
>   > >
>   > > Many thanks, Robin.
>   > >
>   > >     Robin Roos
>   > >     Ogilvie Partners Ltd
>   > >     Robin@...
>   > >
>   > > -----Original Message-----
>   > > From: Robin Roos [mailto:Robin@...]
>   > > Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Dear Java Developers, Designers and Architects
>   > >
>   > > Have you heard about Java Data Objects (JDO)?
>   > >
>   > > JDO is the new object persistence API for Java.  It facilitates the
>   > > transparent persistence of Java objects in data stores (RDBMS,
OODBMS,
>   > file
>   > > systems, and others).  With JDO you declare classes as being
>   > > persistence-capable in a very simple XML descriptor, instead of
writing
>   > > specific persistence infrastructure code with JDBC or the like.  Its
>   > > announcement is expected at JavaONE in March.
>   > >
>   > > It is widely expected that JDO will replace the usage of JDBC and
SQL in
>   > > client-server Java applications, whilst in n-tier 'enterprise'
>   > applications
>   > > JDO will additionally replace Entity EJBs.  Significant development
time
>   > > savings are anticipated as a result of this.
>   > >
>   > > On Thursday 11th April 2002 I will be delivering a presentation
about
>   JDO
>   > > over the web.  I'm posting this email - with the list moderator's
kind
>   > > permission - to invite each of you to 'virtually' attend.
Attendence is
>   > > free, but you will need to register online in advance in order to
>   receive
>   > > the necessary connection details.  Send email to
>   > > mailto:info@... asking for registration details if
you
>   are
>   > > interested.
>   > >
>   > > Ogilvie Partners is a vendor-independent consultancy, based in the
UK,
>   > with
>   > > a specific focus on Java Data Objects.  Our website is packed with
>   useful
>   > > information and downloads.  The JDO Overview, FAQ, Events and Vendor
>   Links
>   > > pages may be of particular interest.  Finally the JDO Forum page
>   > introduces
>   > > the JavaDataObjects discussion group at Yahoo!Groups and invites you
to
>   > > subscribe.
>   > >
>   > > Please visit us at http://www.OgilviePartners.com for further
details.
>   > >
>   > > Kind regards, Robin.
>   > >
>   > > [ See http://www.OgilviePartners.com for information about JDO and
my
>   > > forthcoming book, "Java Data Objects" ]
>   > >
>   >
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I think it would be interesting if you could talk about JDO and then at the end
give us a comparison of ADO.NET :-).
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ted Neward
   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:47 AM
   Subject: Re: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)


   If there's interest, I could probably do a talk on it.

   Ted Neward
   {.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
   (http://www.develop.com)
   http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
   http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
   To: "SacJUG" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:24 AM
   Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)


   > Please read the email attached below for a FREE Webinar on JDO.
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Robin Roos" <Robin@...>
   > To: <sacjug-owner@yahoogroups.com>
   > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:38 AM
   > Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
   >
   >
   > > Dear Sacramento JUG Owner
   > >
   > > I am endeavouring to raise awareness of Java Data Objects (JDO) within
   the
   > > wider Java community.  Please read the message below and, if you find it
   > > acceptable, please forward it to your group at Yahoo!Groups.
   > >
   > > Many thanks, Robin.
   > >
   > >     Robin Roos
   > >     Ogilvie Partners Ltd
   > >     Robin@...
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: Robin Roos [mailto:Robin@...]
   > > Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
   > >
   > >
   > > Dear Java Developers, Designers and Architects
   > >
   > > Have you heard about Java Data Objects (JDO)?
   > >
   > > JDO is the new object persistence API for Java.  It facilitates the
   > > transparent persistence of Java objects in data stores (RDBMS, OODBMS,
   > file
   > > systems, and others).  With JDO you declare classes as being
   > > persistence-capable in a very simple XML descriptor, instead of writing
   > > specific persistence infrastructure code with JDBC or the like.  Its
   > > announcement is expected at JavaONE in March.
   > >
   > > It is widely expected that JDO will replace the usage of JDBC and SQL in
   > > client-server Java applications, whilst in n-tier 'enterprise'
   > applications
   > > JDO will additionally replace Entity EJBs.  Significant development time
   > > savings are anticipated as a result of this.
   > >
   > > On Thursday 11th April 2002 I will be delivering a presentation about
   JDO
   > > over the web.  I'm posting this email - with the list moderator's kind
   > > permission - to invite each of you to 'virtually' attend.  Attendence is
   > > free, but you will need to register online in advance in order to
   receive
   > > the necessary connection details.  Send email to
   > > mailto:info@... asking for registration details if you
   are
   > > interested.
   > >
   > > Ogilvie Partners is a vendor-independent consultancy, based in the UK,
   > with
   > > a specific focus on Java Data Objects.  Our website is packed with
   useful
   > > information and downloads.  The JDO Overview, FAQ, Events and Vendor
   Links
   > > pages may be of particular interest.  Finally the JDO Forum page
   > introduces
   > > the JavaDataObjects discussion group at Yahoo!Groups and invites you to
   > > subscribe.
   > >
   > > Please visit us at http://www.OgilviePartners.com for further details.
   > >
   > > Kind regards, Robin.
   > >
   > > [ See http://www.OgilviePartners.com for information about JDO and my
   > > forthcoming book, "Java Data Objects" ]
   > >
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If there's interest, I could probably do a talk on it.

Ted Neward
{.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
(http://www.develop.com)
http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

----- Original Message -----
From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
To: "SacJUG" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:24 AM
Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Fw: Java Data Objects (JDO)


> Please read the email attached below for a FREE Webinar on JDO.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robin Roos" <Robin@...>
> To: <sacjug-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:38 AM
> Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>
>
> > Dear Sacramento JUG Owner
> >
> > I am endeavouring to raise awareness of Java Data Objects (JDO) within
the
> > wider Java community.  Please read the message below and, if you find it
> > acceptable, please forward it to your group at Yahoo!Groups.
> >
> > Many thanks, Robin.
> >
> >     Robin Roos
> >     Ogilvie Partners Ltd
> >     Robin@...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Roos [mailto:Robin@...]
> > Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
> >
> >
> > Dear Java Developers, Designers and Architects
> >
> > Have you heard about Java Data Objects (JDO)?
> >
> > JDO is the new object persistence API for Java.  It facilitates the
> > transparent persistence of Java objects in data stores (RDBMS, OODBMS,
> file
> > systems, and others).  With JDO you declare classes as being
> > persistence-capable in a very simple XML descriptor, instead of writing
> > specific persistence infrastructure code with JDBC or the like.  Its
> > announcement is expected at JavaONE in March.
> >
> > It is widely expected that JDO will replace the usage of JDBC and SQL in
> > client-server Java applications, whilst in n-tier 'enterprise'
> applications
> > JDO will additionally replace Entity EJBs.  Significant development time
> > savings are anticipated as a result of this.
> >
> > On Thursday 11th April 2002 I will be delivering a presentation about
JDO
> > over the web.  I'm posting this email - with the list moderator's kind
> > permission - to invite each of you to 'virtually' attend.  Attendence is
> > free, but you will need to register online in advance in order to
receive
> > the necessary connection details.  Send email to
> > mailto:info@... asking for registration details if you
are
> > interested.
> >
> > Ogilvie Partners is a vendor-independent consultancy, based in the UK,
> with
> > a specific focus on Java Data Objects.  Our website is packed with
useful
> > information and downloads.  The JDO Overview, FAQ, Events and Vendor
Links
> > pages may be of particular interest.  Finally the JDO Forum page
> introduces
> > the JavaDataObjects discussion group at Yahoo!Groups and invites you to
> > subscribe.
> >
> > Please visit us at http://www.OgilviePartners.com for further details.
> >
> > Kind regards, Robin.
> >
> > [ See http://www.OgilviePartners.com for information about JDO and my
> > forthcoming book, "Java Data Objects" ]
> >
>
>
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Please read the email attached below for a FREE Webinar on JDO.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Roos" <Robin@...>
To: <sacjug-owner@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:38 AM
Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)


> Dear Sacramento JUG Owner
>
> I am endeavouring to raise awareness of Java Data Objects (JDO) within the
> wider Java community.  Please read the message below and, if you find it
> acceptable, please forward it to your group at Yahoo!Groups.
>
> Many thanks, Robin.
>
>     Robin Roos
>     Ogilvie Partners Ltd
>     Robin@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Roos [mailto:Robin@...]
> Subject: Java Data Objects (JDO)
>
>
> Dear Java Developers, Designers and Architects
>
> Have you heard about Java Data Objects (JDO)?
>
> JDO is the new object persistence API for Java.  It facilitates the
> transparent persistence of Java objects in data stores (RDBMS, OODBMS,
file
> systems, and others).  With JDO you declare classes as being
> persistence-capable in a very simple XML descriptor, instead of writing
> specific persistence infrastructure code with JDBC or the like.  Its
> announcement is expected at JavaONE in March.
>
> It is widely expected that JDO will replace the usage of JDBC and SQL in
> client-server Java applications, whilst in n-tier 'enterprise'
applications
> JDO will additionally replace Entity EJBs.  Significant development time
> savings are anticipated as a result of this.
>
> On Thursday 11th April 2002 I will be delivering a presentation about JDO
> over the web.  I'm posting this email - with the list moderator's kind
> permission - to invite each of you to 'virtually' attend.  Attendence is
> free, but you will need to register online in advance in order to receive
> the necessary connection details.  Send email to
> mailto:info@... asking for registration details if you are
> interested.
>
> Ogilvie Partners is a vendor-independent consultancy, based in the UK,
with
> a specific focus on Java Data Objects.  Our website is packed with useful
> information and downloads.  The JDO Overview, FAQ, Events and Vendor Links
> pages may be of particular interest.  Finally the JDO Forum page
introduces
> the JavaDataObjects discussion group at Yahoo!Groups and invites you to
> subscribe.
>
> Please visit us at http://www.OgilviePartners.com for further details.
>
> Kind regards, Robin.
>
> [ See http://www.OgilviePartners.com for information about JDO and my
> forthcoming book, "Java Data Objects" ]
>


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Dear SACJUG Member,

Please find attached Learnix's Training Class Schedule for Jan-Aug 2002.
Hope you will find a class of interest to you.

Best regards,
Tony.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Miner" <kminer@...>
To: <sacjug@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Learnix schedule


>
> Hi Tony--thank you for attending the SACJUG meeting on Tuesday.  I am
sorry
> I wasn't able to meet you.
>
> As you know, Learnix is the Sun Education Center in Sacramento.  I have
> attached our schedule for your review.  We have added many of the new Java
> classes to our schedule.  Are there any that I can keep you updated on?
>
> Kelly


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----


>
> Kelly Miner
> Account Manager
> Learnix
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> "Sun Center of the Quarter 2001"
> T: (916)369-3791 or (800)875-4478
> F: (916)369-3789
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Yes, I also have an OReilly book to be raffled off to members who make it
tonight. :-)

Thanks for bringing it up Ted.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ted Neward
   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:43 AM
   Subject: Re: [SacJUG Discussion] Re: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley
Books only Today !!!


   Speaking of books, Tony, whatever happened to our OReilly books for
   raffling?

   Ted Neward
   {.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
   (http://www.develop.com)
   http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
   http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
   To: "SacJUG" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:08 AM
   Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Re: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley Books
   only Today !!!


   > I completely forgot to mention the names of the books. They are:
   >
   > Java Message Service API Tutorial and Reference
   > - Mark Hapner, Rich Burridge, Rahul Sharma, Joseph Fialli, and Kim Haase
   >
   > The J2EE Tutorial
   > - Stephanie Bodoff, Dale Green, Kim Haase, Eric Jendrock, Monica Pawlan,
   and Beth Stearns
   >
   > Designing Enterprise Applications with J2EE Platform, Second Edition
   > - Inderjeet Singh, Beth Stearns, Mark Johnson, and Team Enterprise
   >
   > Java Network Programming and Distributed Computing
   > - David Reilly and Michael Reilly
   >
   > Design Patterns Java Workbook
   > - Steven John Metsker
   >
   > The Java Web Services Tutorial
   > - Eric Armstrong, Stephanie Bodoff, Debbie Carson, Maydene Fisher, Dale
   Green, and Kim Haase
   >
   >
   > They seem to be a heck of a collection and I am sure you will really love
   to have them as part of your reference library.
   >
   > So dont miss it ! Come to tonight's meeting and invite all your friends
   and colleagues too !
   >
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: SacJUG Director
   >   To: SacJUG
   >   Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:53 AM
   >   Subject: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley Books only Today !!!
   >
   >
   >   Dear SacJUG Member,
   >
   >   Recently, while trying to get Addison Wesley to sponsor books to raffle
   out during our monthly meetings, guess what, they have agreed to send FREE
   copies of not 1, not 2, but 6 of their latest books, which are due to be
   released soon, for all members. Yes, all 6 books are entirely FREE for yours
   to keep. I will be bringing flyers of each book for everybody today and will
   distribute it to all those who attend today's meeting. These flyers will be
   distributed during tonight's meeting only. So make sure you come and dont
   miss this one time opportunity for 6 FREE BOOKS from Addison Wesley.
   >
   >   Here's the secret on how you could get the books. If you are going to
   JavaOne, you just need to follow the instructions on the flyer to redeem it
   for the books at the show. Another secret is, you could still get a copy of
   the book online even if you are not attending the show by coming to
   tonight's meeting and I'll show you how.
   >
   >   Also, spread the word about the Sacramento Java User Group (SacJUG) to
   your friends and colleagues at work by sending out an email and letting them
   know about all the good things they are missing out on. If they are truly
   interested, all they need is to sign up as a member at
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug and come over to tonight's meeting and
   that's it !
   >
   >   So see you for tonight's meeting with our speaker from Java BootCamp
   Pravin Tulachan and Happy JavaOne season !
   >
   >   Best regards,
   >   Tony John.
   >
   >
   >
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Speaking of books, Tony, whatever happened to our OReilly books for
raffling?

Ted Neward
{.NET || Java} Course Author & Instructor, DevelopMentor
(http://www.develop.com)
http://www.javageeks.com/tneward
http://www.clrgeeks.com/tneward

----- Original Message -----
From: "SacJUG Director" <sacjug@...>
To: "SacJUG" <sacjug@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [SacJUG Discussion] Re: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley Books
only Today !!!


> I completely forgot to mention the names of the books. They are:
>
> Java Message Service API Tutorial and Reference
> - Mark Hapner, Rich Burridge, Rahul Sharma, Joseph Fialli, and Kim Haase
>
> The J2EE Tutorial
> - Stephanie Bodoff, Dale Green, Kim Haase, Eric Jendrock, Monica Pawlan,
and Beth Stearns
>
> Designing Enterprise Applications with J2EE Platform, Second Edition
> - Inderjeet Singh, Beth Stearns, Mark Johnson, and Team Enterprise
>
> Java Network Programming and Distributed Computing
> - David Reilly and Michael Reilly
>
> Design Patterns Java Workbook
> - Steven John Metsker
>
> The Java Web Services Tutorial
> - Eric Armstrong, Stephanie Bodoff, Debbie Carson, Maydene Fisher, Dale
Green, and Kim Haase
>
>
> They seem to be a heck of a collection and I am sure you will really love
to have them as part of your reference library.
>
> So dont miss it ! Come to tonight's meeting and invite all your friends
and colleagues too !
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: SacJUG Director
>   To: SacJUG
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:53 AM
>   Subject: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley Books only Today !!!
>
>
>   Dear SacJUG Member,
>
>   Recently, while trying to get Addison Wesley to sponsor books to raffle
out during our monthly meetings, guess what, they have agreed to send FREE
copies of not 1, not 2, but 6 of their latest books, which are due to be
released soon, for all members. Yes, all 6 books are entirely FREE for yours
to keep. I will be bringing flyers of each book for everybody today and will
distribute it to all those who attend today's meeting. These flyers will be
distributed during tonight's meeting only. So make sure you come and dont
miss this one time opportunity for 6 FREE BOOKS from Addison Wesley.
>
>   Here's the secret on how you could get the books. If you are going to
JavaOne, you just need to follow the instructions on the flyer to redeem it
for the books at the show. Another secret is, you could still get a copy of
the book online even if you are not attending the show by coming to
tonight's meeting and I'll show you how.
>
>   Also, spread the word about the Sacramento Java User Group (SacJUG) to
your friends and colleagues at work by sending out an email and letting them
know about all the good things they are missing out on. If they are truly
interested, all they need is to sign up as a member at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug and come over to tonight's meeting and
that's it !
>
>   So see you for tonight's meeting with our speaker from Java BootCamp
Pravin Tulachan and Happy JavaOne season !
>
>   Best regards,
>   Tony John.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     sacjug-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> To learn more about the sacjug group, please visit:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug
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> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

I completely forgot to mention the names of the books. They are:

Java Message Service API Tutorial and Reference
- Mark Hapner, Rich Burridge, Rahul Sharma, Joseph Fialli, and Kim Haase

The J2EE Tutorial
- Stephanie Bodoff, Dale Green, Kim Haase, Eric Jendrock, Monica Pawlan, and
Beth Stearns

Designing Enterprise Applications with J2EE Platform, Second Edition
- Inderjeet Singh, Beth Stearns, Mark Johnson, and Team Enterprise

Java Network Programming and Distributed Computing
- David Reilly and Michael Reilly

Design Patterns Java Workbook
- Steven John Metsker

The Java Web Services Tutorial
- Eric Armstrong, Stephanie Bodoff, Debbie Carson, Maydene Fisher, Dale Green,
and Kim Haase


They seem to be a heck of a collection and I am sure you will really love to
have them as part of your reference library.

So dont miss it ! Come to tonight's meeting and invite all your friends and
colleagues too !

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: SacJUG Director
   To: SacJUG
   Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:53 AM
   Subject: Pre-JavaOne buzz: FREE Addison Wesley Books only Today !!!


   Dear SacJUG Member,

   Recently, while trying to get Addison Wesley to sponsor books to raffle out
during our monthly meetings, guess what, they have agreed to send FREE copies of
not 1, not 2, but 6 of their latest books, which are due to be released soon,
for all members. Yes, all 6 books are entirely FREE for yours to keep. I will be
bringing flyers of each book for everybody today and will distribute it to all
those who attend today's meeting. These flyers will be distributed during
tonight's meeting only. So make sure you come and dont miss this one time
opportunity for 6 FREE BOOKS from Addison Wesley.

   Here's the secret on how you could get the books. If you are going to JavaOne,
you just need to follow the instructions on the flyer to redeem it for the books
at the show. Another secret is, you could still get a copy of the book online
even if you are not attending the show by coming to tonight's meeting and I'll
show you how.

   Also, spread the word about the Sacramento Java User Group (SacJUG) to your
friends and colleagues at work by sending out an email and letting them know
about all the good things they are missing out on. If they are truly interested,
all they need is to sign up as a member at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug
and come over to tonight's meeting and that's it !

   So see you for tonight's meeting with our speaker from Java BootCamp Pravin
Tulachan and Happy JavaOne season !

   Best regards,
   Tony John.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear SacJUG Member,

Recently, while trying to get Addison Wesley to sponsor books to raffle out
during our monthly meetings, guess what, they have agreed to send FREE copies of
not 1, not 2, but 6 of their latest books, which are due to be released soon,
for all members. Yes, all 6 books are entirely FREE for yours to keep. I will be
bringing flyers of each book for everybody today and will distribute it to all
those who attend today's meeting. These flyers will be distributed during
tonight's meeting only. So make sure you come and dont miss this one time
opportunity for 6 FREE BOOKS from Addison Wesley.

Here's the secret on how you could get the books. If you are going to JavaOne,
you just need to follow the instructions on the flyer to redeem it for the books
at the show. Another secret is, you could still get a copy of the book online
even if you are not attending the show by coming to tonight's meeting and I'll
show you how.

Also, spread the word about the Sacramento Java User Group (SacJUG) to your
friends and colleagues at work by sending out an email and letting them know
about all the good things they are missing out on. If they are truly interested,
all they need is to sign up as a member at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacjug
and come over to tonight's meeting and that's it !

So see you for tonight's meeting with our speaker from Java BootCamp Pravin
Tulachan and Happy JavaOne season !

Best regards,
Tony John.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Friends,

Tomorrow?s SacJUG meeting is about writing Java code for the
enterprise environment.

Pravin V. Tulachan will give a presentation called ?Understanding and
Guide to writing container-managed Entity Bean in EJB 2.0?

The discussion will involve a code walk through and live demo that is
geared towards developers.

Pravin is the author of upcoming J2EE book series J2EE Boot Camp:
?Developing Enterprise JavaBeans? coming out at the end of this month.

I am sure this presentation will introduce you to Sun?s new enterprise
standards. Styles and design patterns have been a big part of
successful EJB solutions. As we face new technologies and frameworks
to solve our customer?s problems in the cyber world of information and
business transactions I welcome Pravin?s presentation and expertise
developing enterprise environment.

Sun?s Java( 2 SDK, Enterprise Edition web page...
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/sdk_1.3/index.html.

From our side we need to do our honors of being there.
Hope to see you at the meeting!

Learnix
8950 Cal Center Drive
Building 1 Suite 10
Sacramento, California
March 12, 2002 6:30 - 8:30 PM.

...And don?t forget, you might just be the lucky winner of a FREE Java
book courtesy OReilly Publications...

Best regards,
Chris Scheuble.

My name is Russell Garabelis with Digi-Net Technologies, Inc.
in Gainesville, FL.  We are the fastest growing private technology
company in Florida and we would like to invite you to participate
in a Java development contest.  The contest is simple and has a
very big prize.  Develop a BOT for open API DigiChat software
and win the grand prize of $1,500.  Digi-Net will be awarding a
total of $2,500 for the top 4 BOTS.

Detailed information can be found by visiting http://
developer.digi-net.com.  If you have any questions, please let me
know.

DigiChat is the market-leading Java-based software with more
than 10,000 site licenses and clients such as Lucent, Sun
Microsystems, Maxim and Proctor & Gamble.

Regards,

Russell Garabelis

Hi,

Do you know anyone who might be interested in developing or financing
Full Text Search engine products? I took latest research result and
prototyped a FTS engine, which incorporates the latest research
results and has a number of innoviation in it. It can be further
developed into image search engine, document search engine, XML
indexing engine or other area-specific search engine such as stock
search etc. It can be easily scaled to support millions of files and
expanded in the future to support datamining on top.

I am looking for someone or a company who is interested in similar
products, who can help me further develop it into a  series of
products. About myself, I am a database engine expert. I have been
building varieties of of database engines, also indexing engine,
transaction engine and query engine for enterprise environment,
mobile environment and the Internet environment since 1995.

Thanks have a nice day.

Justin Chen
justinchen101@...

CZTech.

Chris:

Many thanks for your kind reply.

I’ll see if I can get it to work now!

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scheuble [mailto:cscheuble@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:18 PM
To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SacJUG Discussion Use of Relative File Names with
ClassFileInputStream

You can include file path info in the String argument.

new FileInputStream("myfile.xyz")
new FileInputStream("directory" + getProperty("path.separator") +
"myfile.xyz")
new FileInputStream(".." + getProperty("path.separator") + "myfile.xyz")
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   From: r1chus [mailto:Richard.L.Andrews@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:31 AM
   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: SacJUG Discussion Use of Relative File Names with Class
FileInputStream


   Does anybody know how to create a relative address for a java client
   using the FileInputStream constructor?  Or am I locked into using an
   absolute address.  Can using a .jar file help me here?

   Thanks!

   Rich


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Thanks for the help!  I’ll check it out.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scheuble [mailto:cscheuble@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:18 PM
To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SacJUG Discussion Use of Relative File Names with
ClassFileInputStream

You can include file path info in the String argument.

new FileInputStream("myfile.xyz")
new FileInputStream("directory" + getProperty("path.separator") +
"myfile.xyz")
new FileInputStream(".." + getProperty("path.separator") + "myfile.xyz")
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   Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:31 AM
   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: SacJUG Discussion Use of Relative File Names with Class
FileInputStream


   Does anybody know how to create a relative address for a java client
   using the FileInputStream constructor?  Or am I locked into using an
   absolute address.  Can using a .jar file help me here?

   Thanks!

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   Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:31 AM
   To: sacjug@yahoogroups.com
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FileInputStream


   Does anybody know how to create a relative address for a java client
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Does anybody know how to create a relative address for a java client
using the FileInputStream constructor?  Or am I locked into using an
absolute address.  Can using a .jar file help me here?

Thanks!

Rich

SacJUG Meeting Tonight!

February 12, 2002 - Ted Neward

Java versus .NET

JavaTM 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition (J2EETM) and the Microsoft .NET
architecture both hold promise of being the predominant enterprise
application framework for the next several years. This session
ignores all the hype and hoopla associated with marketing campaigns,
and compares and contrasts the J2EE and .NET development frameworks
in multiple, detailed ways.
Ted Neward, Java Geeks.COM & DevelopMentor.

Pizza and sodas will be sponsored by Tek Systems.

T-shirt from Learnix will be raffled off.

And as usual, we have a book to be raffled off too. O'Reilly has been
gracious enough to sponsor some books to be given out every meeting.

So if you make it to this meeting, you might just be a lucky winner
of one of the latest Java books published by OReilly.

>From our side we need to do our honors of being there.
Hope to see you at the meeting!

Learnix
8950 Cal Center Drive
Building 1 Suite 10
Sacramento, CA

February 12, 2002 6:30 - 8:30 PM

Best regards,
Chris Scheuble.

I wanted to ask CalWeb if they would be interested in hosting our web
site. Does anybody have any reservations or preferences about CalWeb?

I have seen information about Verio dropping its accounts. Is this a
rumor?

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Dear Members,

Please forward this to your friends and other user groups as I am
sure there are a lot of people who need jobs desperately and this is
a good opportunity for some.


Need 3 J2EE/Web Sphere/DB2 developers and a Senior Oracle/UNIX
Developer for a 6-12 months project in Oakland, CA.

If interested, please email resumes to me directly.

Thanks.
Tony John.

Friends,

We need two java/web developers for a project in Sacramento. The duration of
the project is 3 months with possible extension. We are working on an
aggressive schedule and we need experienced developers. Following are the
requirements

1. Server side Java programming - Servlets
3. Apache web server
3. JDBC and SQL
4. JSP, JSP Tags
5. HTML

Knowledge of Oracle 9iAS is a plus. There is swing or awt programming
involved.

If you feel that your skills meet the requirements, please send me your
resume.

Regards.

Ravi Verma
916 705 3261

Friends,

I apologize for this strange email. I am looking for a person I interviewed
two weeks ago and I have no way to contact him now.

Following are the details.

1. He is a member of SacJug
2. He was a consultant at Output Technologies working on Java related
technologies until last month
3. He comes from Tamil Nadu in India
4. He has a brand new house in Roseville
5. He knows Tony John
6. And he interviewed with me two weeks back.

I request that person to contact me as soon as possible.

Ravi Verma
916 705 3261

Dear Friends,

Tomorrow's SacJUG meeting is about modeling your stuff.

Richard Beauchamp will present us with the very best of UML - OK, very
basics of UML; Terminology, Use Case & Class Diagrams.

UML - The Unified Modeling Language is a graphical language for visualizing,
specifying, constructing, and documenting the artifacts of a
software-intensive system. This presentation will prepare us for the
following OO presentations.

I am sure after attending this presentation you will surely be inclined to
install one of the CD's or UML downloads from past meetings and begin
designing new powerfull Java projects that were considered unfathomable
before. Or another words this meeting will bring you up to speed with the
basics of UML methods and diagraming.

AND. We've got pizza comming! Sponsored by the Maxim Group.

>From our side we need to do our honors of being there.
Hope to see you at the meeting!

	 Learnix
	 8810 Cal Center Dr. Suite 200, Sacramento
	 December 11, 2001 6:30 - 8:30 PM).

...And dont forget, you might just be the lucky winner of a FREE Java book
courtesy OReilly Publications...

Best regards,
Chris Scheuble.

Welcome to the Sacramento Java User Group!