Vincent you recommended I check out PBS' Holy Sepulcher broadcast.  It has
finally come on-line:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_tomb/index.html

It is a confusing structure.  It has a variety of layers and has also had a
number of restorations and entire reconstructions.  PBS has done a good job
allowing users to visualize these various manifestations.  You can add one
"wire frame" to another, or see the whole thing in solid graphical format.
Interesting interactive website.  Check it out.

Martin Biddle has been hired to survey the entire church for its eventual
restoration.

His webpage:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0eq10

-Chris

On the topic of lost civilizations, German archaeologist Gunter Dreyer has
pushed back the date of early Egyptian history. Not only discovering the
earliest hieroglyphs (before it developed into a systematic written
language) he also found evidence of early tombs and underground chambers
like those beneath the pyramids-- but predating them by at least six hundred
years.

Here is an excerpt from the program I recently watched, "Atlantis
Uncovered".  The title is a play on words: not *dis*covered-- uncovered.

* * *

NARRATOR: The English pottery marked the moment when foreigners arrived in
this part of America. The test is the same for the hallmarks of ancient
civilisation, like pyramids or writing. If they were brought by an Atlantian
super-race they should appear suddenly superimposed on Stone Age life with
no precursors, but if the local people created them there should be slow
steps of development over thousands of years. When archaeologists study the
greatest symbols of civilisation what do they find? The pyramids of Egypt
were built as tombs for the Pharaohs. Most celebrated are those at Giza,
built around 2,500BC, but these are not the first. What came before was
puzzling. At Dahshur are two earlier pyramids, one of them so misshapen it's
known as the Bent Pyramid.

DR TOBY WILKINSON (University of Cambridge): Both these pyramids were built
by one King, by King Sneferu and he came to this site and started on the
pyramid behind us called the Bent Pyramid. As his masons were working up the
pyramid they discovered that in fact there were certain structural problems.
The desert surface here is very unstable. They'd also been very slapdash
about how they put the blocks together and so the structure started to
subside and it was decided then at that point to start a new pyramid, which
we call the Red Pyramid, to the north.

NARRATOR: Sneferu's builders didn't seem to know what they were doing.

TOBY WILKINSON: We can actually tell why King Sneferu's builders ran into
problems here, if we look at the state of these blocks. They were using very
poor quality mortar and they were setting the core blocks in a very
haphazard way and we know that they learnt their lessons because when they
started to build the Red Pyramid they used better quality mortar, they set
the blocks more carefully and they founded the pyramid on a foundation of
limestone to give it extra structural rigidity.

NARRATOR: If these pyramids were the work of Atlantians they must have been
dodgy builders, but Egyptologists have another explanation. They see the
Bent Pyramid as clear evidence of the Egyptians learning to build through a
process of trial and error, and there are pyramids even older than the Bent
Pyramid. The step pyramid at Saqqara is a smaller and simpler structure. A
whole century before Giza, the first of many steps towards perfection.

TOBY WILKINSON: It's certainly true that pyramids do evolve and one can
trace the evolution of them through the step pyramid and finally to the true
pyramids that we see behind us. They didn't appear fully-fledged overnight.

NARRATOR: But if the Atlantians didn't bring the art of pyramid building,
how did the idea begin? Archaeologists believe the answer lies 250 miles
south along the Nile, in a place more mysterious still: Abydos, the ancient
capital of Egypt. Gunter Dreyer has spent the last 20 years excavating at
Abydos. Hidden away in the desert, this seemed an unpromising place to look
for the origins of the great pyramids.

DR GUNTER DREYER (German Archaeological Institute, Cairo): At the beginning
it was a little bit a risk. We didn't know what we might find. In
archaeology you try. You may suppose things, but better try and look.

NARRATOR: When Dreyer began to excavate he came upon something unexpected,
something more than 600 years older than Giza.

GUNTER DREYER: The first trial trench we came upon a very large tomb, very
large tomb indeed, of a size we never expected for that period. When we dug
and the first wall came out we had the tomb there and then another chamber
beside the first one, and another, and another. It didn't stop.

NARRATOR: An underground tomb with chambers that had once been full of
treasure. A simple version of what lies below the pyramids. This was proof
of a tradition stretching back centuries. Dreyer has now excavated hundreds
of tombs at Abydos. They began with simple pits in the ground and slowly
progressed to great underground monuments.

GUNTER DREYER: So from the very first tombs of that size it developed over
1,000 years to that size and the next step to the pyramids is not a bigger
one than those we have seen before.

NARRATOR: Other teams at Abydos excavated monuments built above ground.
Compared to the pyramid sites they showed remarkable similarities. The same
bricks laid in the same way to build the same style of walls with doorways
in the same positions. Abydos had revealed a thousand year record of
incremental steps leading towards the pyramids, the mark of a gradual, local
development. There was no trace of Atlantis. But these revelations don't
explain the mystery at the heart of the Atlantian argument: the strange
coincidence that pyramids were also built on the other side of the Atlantic.

Hi all,

I just joined your list...Carol A. Hanny - channy@...

Web site - http://members.skyweb.net/~channy
Megaliths, Caves and other interesting stuff

I would like to know if anyone has any sites aligned to Pleiades.  I have read
a few archaeological reports, and archaeoastronomy books, and am most
interested in this alignment.  Just wondering if anyone else is?

Thanks,

Carol

Hi Carol,

I think that is an excellent question:  why is the Pleiades constellation so
popular?

On the topic of sacred sites that are aligned to it, there are many.  The
most recent I have uncovered is a newly excavated archaeological site near
Machu Picchu in Peru.  I include it below.

Generally speaking though, almost every culture agrees that this tiny group
of stars is meaningful.  Why do suppose this is?

First, what are the most popular mythological constellations? Orion, the Big
Dipper, the Little Dipper (with Polaris at its end), Pegasus, Cassiopeia,
come to my mind first.  But unlike these, the Pleiades seems to cause a
personal reaction among people.  When I was fifteen, before I even knew the
proper name for it (Pleiades), I simply just called it "my constellation".
Instinctually I felt drawn to it.  Then I met another girl at the time who
also called it "my constellation" (referring to herself).  I didn't tell her
that I also thought the same thing (didn't want to intrude on "her" turf).
I just thought, Weird.

One thing to note about it is that it looks like the Big Dipper but much
fainter.  I have always thought that this faintness adds to its perceptual
power: lying on the borderline of vision, its recognition and formation into
a meaningful shape gives it more personal meaning.

Just some random thoughts on the matter.

Anyone else have a "personal relation" with this constellation?

Incidentally, the Japanese car maker "Subaru" is named after it: subaru in
Japanese means "Pleiades" and the logo for the company here in Japan is the
star constellation (I forget what it is in N. America).

-Chris

Begin old post:

* * *

Some very exciting work is being done in the Andes.

Last year, I reported that an Incan burial site was found near the ancient
city of Machu Picchu.  It is a rare find since it survived in tact, escaping
the notice of colonizing Europeans.

That article is still accessible via this URL:

http://www.andrys.com/mpburial.html

Just recently, though, another city near Machu Picchu has been discovered,
this time using infrared satellite technology.  The article is here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&e=2&u=/nm/peru_britain_i
nca_dc

Check out the astronomical alignments: a solar temple and houses covering
several square miles were found to lie in the same alignment with the
Pleiades star cluster (!) and the June solstice sunrise as Machu Picchu,
which was a sacred center.  Talk about a sacred site find.

The article claims that this is the first time infrared technology was used
to locate a city.  I suspect they mean in the Andes because I know for a
fact that other researchers employing the same technology in Cambodia found
the city of Angkor Thom slightly south-east of Angkor Wat.

I have know images for the newly found Incan city, but I have uploaded a
large image of the Angkor Wat site so you can see how such technology helps
in locating adjacent sites.  Note the red in the image:

http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/angkor_wat_infra_red.gif

The fact that two such sites (Incan and Buddhist) have been located using
such methods suggests very promising futures for other such finds!

-Chris

I have always known the Pleiades constellation as 'The Seven Sisters'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:groups@...]
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2004 1:58 PM
To: Sacred Landscape
Subject: [sl] Re: Pleiades

Hi Carol,

I think that is an excellent question:  why is the Pleiades
constellation so
popular?

On the topic of sacred sites that are aligned to it, there are many.
The
most recent I have uncovered is a newly excavated archaeological site
near
Machu Picchu in Peru.  I include it below.

Generally speaking though, almost every culture agrees that this tiny
group
of stars is meaningful.  Why do suppose this is?

First, what are the most popular mythological constellations? Orion, the
Big
Dipper, the Little Dipper (with Polaris at its end), Pegasus,
Cassiopeia,
come to my mind first.  But unlike these, the Pleiades seems to cause a
personal reaction among people.  When I was fifteen, before I even knew
the
proper name for it (Pleiades), I simply just called it "my
constellation".
Instinctually I felt drawn to it.  Then I met another girl at the time
who
also called it "my constellation" (referring to herself).  I didn't tell
her
that I also thought the same thing (didn't want to intrude on "her"
turf).
I just thought, Weird.

One thing to note about it is that it looks like the Big Dipper but much
fainter.  I have always thought that this faintness adds to its
perceptual
power: lying on the borderline of vision, its recognition and formation
into
a meaningful shape gives it more personal meaning.

Just some random thoughts on the matter.

Anyone else have a "personal relation" with this constellation?

Incidentally, the Japanese car maker "Subaru" is named after it: subaru
in
Japanese means "Pleiades" and the logo for the company here in Japan is
the
star constellation (I forget what it is in N. America).

-Chris

Begin old post:

* * *

Some very exciting work is being done in the Andes.

Last year, I reported that an Incan burial site was found near the
ancient
city of Machu Picchu.  It is a rare find since it survived in tact,
escaping
the notice of colonizing Europeans.

That article is still accessible via this URL:

http://www.andrys.com/mpburial.html

Just recently, though, another city near Machu Picchu has been
discovered,
this time using infrared satellite technology.  The article is here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&e=2&u=/nm/peru_brita
in_i
nca_dc

Check out the astronomical alignments: a solar temple and houses
covering
several square miles were found to lie in the same alignment with the
Pleiades star cluster (!) and the June solstice sunrise as Machu Picchu,
which was a sacred center.  Talk about a sacred site find.

The article claims that this is the first time infrared technology was
used
to locate a city.  I suspect they mean in the Andes because I know for a
fact that other researchers employing the same technology in Cambodia
found
the city of Angkor Thom slightly south-east of Angkor Wat.

I have know images for the newly found Incan city, but I have uploaded a
large image of the Angkor Wat site so you can see how such technology
helps
in locating adjacent sites.  Note the red in the image:

http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/angkor_wat_infra_red.gif

The fact that two such sites (Incan and Buddhist) have been located
using
such methods suggests very promising futures for other such finds!

-Chris




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First, thanks for all the info.  I've read most of that, but some of the lesser known facts were interesting.

You asked why so many pay (paid) attention to it?  The grouping, the ease of finding it?

And, if you have not seen it, I found a site on the web, of a site in CT

http://members.aol.com/theaspgroup/page7.html

Check it out.

Thanks,

Carol
 
 

Chris wrote:

Hi Carol,

I think that is an excellent question:  why is the Pleiades constellation so
popular?

On the topic of sacred sites that are aligned to it, there are many.  The
most recent I have uncovered is a newly excavated archaeological site near
Machu Picchu in Peru.  I include it below.

Generally speaking though, almost every culture agrees that this tiny group
of stars is meaningful.  Why do suppose this is?

First, what are the most popular mythological constellations? Orion, the Big
Dipper, the Little Dipper (with Polaris at its end), Pegasus, Cassiopeia,
come to my mind first.  But unlike these, the Pleiades seems to cause a
personal reaction among people.  When I was fifteen, before I even knew the
proper name for it (Pleiades), I simply just called it "my constellation".
Instinctually I felt drawn to it.  Then I met another girl at the time who
also called it "my constellation" (referring to herself).  I didn't tell her
that I also thought the same thing (didn't want to intrude on "her" turf).
I just thought, Weird.

One thing to note about it is that it looks like the Big Dipper but much
fainter.  I have always thought that this faintness adds to its perceptual
power: lying on the borderline of vision, its recognition and formation into
a meaningful shape gives it more personal meaning.

Just some random thoughts on the matter.

Anyone else have a "personal relation" with this constellation?

Incidentally, the Japanese car maker "Subaru" is named after it: subaru in
Japanese means "Pleiades" and the logo for the company here in Japan is the
star constellation (I forget what it is in N. America).

-Chris

Begin old post:

* * *

Some very exciting work is being done in the Andes.

Last year, I reported that an Incan burial site was found near the ancient
city of Machu Picchu.  It is a rare find since it survived in tact, escaping
the notice of colonizing Europeans.

That article is still accessible via this URL:

http://www.andrys.com/mpburial.html

Just recently, though, another city near Machu Picchu has been discovered,
this time using infrared satellite technology.  The article is here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&e=2&u=/nm/peru_britain_i
nca_dc

Check out the astronomical alignments: a solar temple and houses covering
several square miles were found to lie in the same alignment with the
Pleiades star cluster (!) and the June solstice sunrise as Machu Picchu,
which was a sacred center.  Talk about a sacred site find.

The article claims that this is the first time infrared technology was used
to locate a city.  I suspect they mean in the Andes because I know for a
fact that other researchers employing the same technology in Cambodia found
the city of Angkor Thom slightly south-east of Angkor Wat.

I have know images for the newly found Incan city, but I have uploaded a
large image of the Angkor Wat site so you can see how such technology helps
in locating adjacent sites.  Note the red in the image:

http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/angkor_wat_infra_red.gif

The fact that two such sites (Incan and Buddhist) have been located using
such methods suggests very promising futures for other such finds!

-Chris

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Hi all,

Something I thought you might want to see - hope it is not a repeat, since I'm
new to this list

http://guam.org/gu/starcave/

Carol

Hi Carol, the link doesn't work.  Could you check that it is correct and
post it again? Thanks.

I am now going through my notes looking for sacred sites that either face
the Pleiades or have it in mind for some ritual.  Will post more at a later
date.

-Chris

>
> Something I thought you might want to see - hope it is not a repeat, since I'm
> new to this list
>
> http://guam.org/gu/starcave/
>
> Carol
>

http://members.aol.com/theaspgroup/page7.html

Try, try again, here's the link that worked for me!

Chris wrote:

> Hi Carol, the link doesn't work.  Could you check that it is correct and
> post it again? Thanks.
>
> I am now going through my notes looking for sacred sites that either face
> the Pleiades or have it in mind for some ritual.  Will post more at a later
> date.
>
> -Chris
>
> >
> > Something I thought you might want to see - hope it is not a repeat, since
I'm
> > new to this list
> >
> > http://guam.org/gu/starcave/
> >
> > Carol
> >
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----- Original Message -----

From: J Vincent Beall

To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:26 PM

Subject: [sl] Sacred Space - VHS documentary

Sacred Space

 

At this link you can preview a one hour documentary program on colonial American sacred architectures. It includes presentations about a couple of the founding synagogs also. There have been exchanges on the list in the past with regard to some of the church buildings that are explored on the program. The program was shown at 1:00 today on the NBC afilliate in Washington D.C.

 

It was very well balanced, and professionally done.

 

Vince

 

 

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Hi Vincent, thank you for the good link.  Unfortunately, the clip is only
two minutes long.  The program itself is an hour but that is not on-line.

My sense of the clip was a bit too polished and self-congratulatory,
suggesting seamless ties between architectural forms and national heritage.
My understanding of sacred architecture, in contrast, is that there is no
seam between architectural styles.  And certainly not between sacred stuff
and political stuff.

By the way, what are some early American synagogues?  Do they really go as
far back as Pilgrim churches?

-Chris

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris

To: Sacred Landscape

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:06 PM

Subject: [sl] re: sacred space clip

Hi Vincent, thank you for the good link.  Unfortunately, the clip is only
two minutes long.  The program itself is an hour but that is not on-line.

My sense of the clip was a bit too polished and self-congratulatory,
suggesting seamless ties between architectural forms and national heritage.
My understanding of sacred architecture, in contrast, is that there is no
seam between architectural styles.  And certainly not between sacred stuff
and political stuff.
 
By the way, what are some early American synagogues?  Do they really go as
far back as Pilgrim churches?

-Chris


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Sacred Sites International is seeking nominations for its list of "most
endangered sites" through March 30, 2004.

10-15 of the nominated sites will make the "most endangered" list.

As a member of this advisory committee, I believe there are many sites in
the Midwest alone that would qualify.  In fact, I could nominate too many on
my own.  There is a limit of one nomination per individual or group. So I
need your help, there are so many and time is short.

Which would you nominate for the most endangered sacred place that you know
of? Would you be willing to help put together the nomination packet?  Do you
need help pulling an application together?

Of course, this is a world-wide nomination process.  The relevant forms and
further information can be found at
http://sacred-sites.org/preservation/index.html

Let me know soon so that we can get as many endangered places listed as
possible.  Let us stand with those on the edge of losing their sacred
places.

In service,

Rev. John-Brian Paprock
"Sacred Sites of Minnesota" (available March 2004)
"Sacred Sites of Wisconsin" (2001)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/sites.html
Photo Exhibit of Some Wisconsin Sites
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/ssphoto.html

SACRED SITES OF MINNESOTA
by John-Brian Paprock and Teresa Peneguy Paprock
(includes photographs by John-Brian Paprock)
216 pp, Paperback, March 2004
List Price:   $18.95
ISBN: 1931599262
Pub. Date: March 2004
Publisher: Trails Media Group, Incorporated

An excellent companion to our first volume of Sacred Sites - SACRED SITES OF
WISCONSIN.

In honor of our Minnesota book finally being printed, we would like to offer
our friends who wish to order it in advance:
  both books for $30.00 (+$5 for shipping and handling), signed by the
authors.

If you wish to make an advanced order with us, please send a check for $35
to:
INROADS
P. O. Box 5207
Madison, Wisconsin  53705

Please include your shipping address.

These will be mailed the first week in March. You will probably get yours
before the stores are stocked.

Look for Teresa and I to give some talks in Minnesota in March.  We will
keep you posted.

Please forward this responsibly.

If you have received this in error (or receive duplication), please accept
our apologies and let us know so that we can avoid this mistake in the
future.

sincerely,


John-Brian Paprock

"Sacred Sites of Minnesota" (March 2004)
"Sacred Sites of Wisconsin" (2001)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/sites.html
Photo Exhibit http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/ssphoto.html

ar

John-Brian Paprock <jonbrian@...> wrote:

Sacred Sites International is seeking nominations for its list of "most
endangered sites" through March 30, 2004.

10-15 of the nominated sites will make the "most endangered" list.

As a member of this advisory committee, I believe there are many sites in
the Midwest alone that would qualify. In fact, I could nominate too many on
my own. There is a limit of one nomination per individual or group. So I
need your help, there are so many and time is short.

Which would you nominate for the most endangered sacred place that you know
of? Would you be willing to help put together the nomination packet? Do you
need help pulling an application together?

Of course, this is a world-wide nomination process. The relevant forms and
further information can be found at
http://sacred-sites.org/preservation/index.html

Let me know soon so that we can get as many endangered places listed as
possible. Let us stand with those on the edge of losing their sacred
places.

In service,

Rev. John-Brian Paprock
"Sacred Sites of Minnesota" (available March 2004)
"Sacred Sites of Wisconsin" (2001)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/sites.html
Photo Exhibit of Some Wisconsin Sites
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/ssphoto.html


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You can find some more information on Arge-Bam at this url (as well
as some interesting stuff on the Garden of Eden, etc.)

http://dooroodiran.blogspot.com/2003_12_21_dooroodiran_archive.html

Dan


--- In sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com, v t <arsacide@y...> wrote:
>
> dear friend
>
> you have talked about most  endangered sacred site in midWest but i
guess midEast is the most important we have many preciouse sites in
there. i can show you a dozen of sites which are really endanger and
unfortunatlly some of them have been already destroyed like "Arge
Bamm" (destroyed compeletly in Bam earthquake in Iran)
>
> i would like to help if you wish
>
> ar
>
> John-Brian Paprock <jonbrian@c...> wrote: Sacred Sites
International is seeking nominations for its list of "most
> endangered sites" through March 30, 2004.
>
> 10-15 of the nominated sites will make the "most endangered" list.
>
> As a member of this advisory committee, I believe there are many
sites in
> the Midwest alone that would qualify. In fact, I could nominate too
many on
> my own. There is a limit of one nomination per individual or group.
So I
> need your help, there are so many and time is short.
>
> Which would you nominate for the most endangered sacred place that
you know
> of? Would you be willing to help put together the nomination
packet? Do you
> need help pulling an application together?
>
> Of course, this is a world-wide nomination process. The relevant
forms and
> further information can be found at
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Joan,

I know you are interested in the rabbit in the moon.  So I thought I would
pass this along.  It is already two years old but is the first time I heard
of it.  A map of the moon ten times older than anything known before has
been found carved into stone at one of Ireland's most ancient and mysterious
Neolithic sites.  What I like about this one is that moonlight would shine
down the eastern passage of the tomb and fall on the Neolithic lunar map.

There is not much more to the article other than those two points.  But
perhaps someone else may find or know more:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/sci/tech/325290.stm

-Chris

Dan,

Thank you for this excellent link.  The previous poster said that Bam was
"completely destroyed" but it is not quite that unmanageable.  It is sad
what the earthquake has done to it.  But look at the remarkable restoration
that Borobodur temple underwent on Java, Indonesia.  It shows that such
projects can restore works through united support.

Here are two shots of Bam, from before and after the earthquake.  If these
links do not work for you, tell me.  I will put the images up on my site.

Before:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031226/photos_wl_me_afp/0312
26111939_vl3t1wgo_photo0&e=15


After:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031227/481/xhs10312270919&e=
20

-Chris

Hi Myriah,

Okay, I put the same webpages on my site.  Please no one cry about
copyrights.  I will take them down shortly.  It is for educational purposes
only:

Before:
http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/Bam-before.html

After:
http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/Bam-after.html

-Chris

Hello Friends!

Happy New Year!

I'm writing to update you on a few topics.

Rose Window -- Cathedral Of St. John The Divine
For those of you interested in geometric analyses of sacred art, I've
added a webpage showing how to do a geometric construction underlying
the design of the Rose Window at the beloved Cathedral Of St. John The
Divine in New York City. I've also added some little-known information
and photo about my role in 1992 with the geometry of the statues at the
Cathedral’s Portal Of Paradise central entrance.

See it at http://www.constructingtheuniverse.com/StJohnRose.html

This geometric analysis is the latest in a series of six.
According to my webpage statistics, they're listed here in order of
worldwide interest:

Most popular is the page about the geometry of the Rose Window at
Chartres Cathedral.

The others, generally tied, are often in this order:
Chinese Pi Discs
Pectoral of Egyptian Princess Sit-Hathor-Yu-Net
Medieval Illumination: The Divine Geometer
Cabinet by the great Herter Brothers


Voice Of America Interview
Last year I sat down in San Francisco for an interesting conversation
with Adam Phillips of the Voice Of America News. He recorded our talk
and it has become two brief interviews, one of which played on the Our
World program (link below). While we spoke for 2.5 hours, the editing
process miraculously condensed it into two 4.5 minute pieces. The first
one aired on December 27, 2003, and was beamed on shortwave to 90
million listeners in English, and translated into many of 54 other
languages. I was cognizant that I’d be heard by people in situations
very different from my own, and wanted the message to be uplifting and
positive. The conversation centered around the language of shapes
appearing universally in nature, technology and cross-culturally, and so

I tried to work with examples everyone has in common (round plates, the
seasons, etc.) and the timeless Truths with which everyone agrees, here
in the context of the language of numbers and shapes and their eternal
relationships. While the “interview” is actually a few sound bites, I
hope that my intent comes across. The second part should air soon

The Our World webpage with the interview (scroll about ¾ down the page)
is at


http://www.voanews.com/Ourworld/article.cfm?objectID=4F2322A4-55C7-4078-AA4AC232DC4FCE06&title=December%2027%2C%202003

You can read the interview as text, or download the .rm or mp3 files of
the entire show and hear my enthusiasm for the subject. (The segment
begins at 16 minutes 20 seconds into the show.)


Constructing The Universe Activity Books
Finally, I’d like to say “Thank You” to the people around the world who
have been ordering the two companion workbooks to “A Beginner’s Guide To

Constructing The Universe”. It seems that they’re universally useful
for artists, architects, designers, teachers and students. Thanks for
your kind comments, and I hope that the books continue to inform and
inspire you.

More information about them, including links to their Tables Of
Contents, can be seen at
http://www.constructingtheuniverse.com/Activity%20Book.html

With Best Wishes,

Michael Schneider

http://www.constructingtheuniverse.com/

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On eBay.  In excellent condition.

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In case you want to calculate some surface distances, try this link:

http://www.wcrl.ars.usda.gov/cec/java/lat-long.htm

-Chris

Though I have valued his site for some time now, I didn't know he put his
travel journals on-line.  Interesting reading from in and around powerful
places:

Machu Picchu, Peru:
http://www.sacredsites.com/pilgrim/3/sept18.html

This has a little about archaeoastronomy.  I arrived at it via a link from a
separate website.  That site summarized some of the ideas this way:

"That understanding of this general theory of form in process was not
limited to the Vedic world is clearly revealed by the brilliant work of
William Sullivan (in part inspired by personal contact with J. G. Bennett)
on Inca cosmology, which appears to have thoroughly incorporated an active
concept of time the Inca inculcated into every aspect of their cultural life
(The Secret of the Inca: Myth, Astronomy, and the War Against Time, Crown,
1996). Sullivan applied the principles described in Hamlet¹s Mill (Giorgio
Santillana and Hertha Von Dechend, Nonpareil, 1969), on the role of myth in
the rise of science through evolution of the concept of invariance, to
analysis of stellar configurations revealed by Inca myths, then dated the
myths by using a planetarium to roll back the star clock to the times when
such configurations were viewable by naked-eye astronomy from Machu Picchu"

...followed by the link to Gray's page.

Gray's journal entry for Teotihuacán, Mexico is also intriguing:
http://www.sacredsites.com/pilgrim/2298.html

-Chris

P.S. Note to Oscar: I haven't forgotten your offer on Chichen Itza.  Thanks
for this.  I am just trying to find time to dig up the info I need.  Talk to
you soon.

Sorry about the mistake and the bad link.  We had to end the first listing
early as we had posted the first auction without a reserve.

The reserve is $150 and the buy-it-now is set at $225.

If interested, please go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7702&item=3582289150&ssPa\
geName=STRK:MESSE:IT

thanks for your interest,
Carole & Tom

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Sacred Sites of Minnesota is available now - 6 weeks earlier than expected!

In honor of our Minnesota book EARLY printing, we will offer to our friends
who wish to order it in advance: both books SACRED SITES OF MINNESOTA and
SACRED SITES OF WISCONSIN for $30.00 (+$5 for shipping and handling), signed
by the authors and we will honor orders through February 2004. List price is
$18.95.

If you wish to make an advanced order with us, please send a check for $35
to:
INROADS
P. O. Box 5207
Madison, Wisconsin  53705

Please include a shipping address.

These will be mailed this week as soon as your check is received. You will
probably get yours before the major stores are stocked.

Please forward this responsibly.

If you have received this in error (or receive duplication), please accept
our apologies and let us know so that we can avoid this mistake in the
future.

sincerely,


John-Brian Paprock

"Sacred Sites of Minnesota" (2004)
"Sacred Sites of Wisconsin" (2001)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/sites.html
Photo Exhibit http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/ssphoto.html


SACRED SITES OF MINNESOTA
by John-Brian Paprock and Teresa Peneguy Paprock
(includes photographs by John-Brian Paprock)
216 pp, Paperback, January 2004
List Price:   $18.95
ISBN: 1931599262
Pub. Date: January 2004
Publisher: Trails Media Group, Incorporated
contact publisher for review copies or any distribution questions: Candy
Parrell - cparrell@...