Gee, Keith,
I am truly shocked. John of Patmos gave the greatest message of hope: a new,
good world is coming.

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

whitewolf's rant beside,
we Cherokee have found Christianity to be quite analogous to
our own faith ...
further, while some "Christians" were rogues, so were many
of us.
On the other hand, the Great Spirit has reached out to all
and has confirmed some of Her messages in other lands ...
for instance Shining Shirt ...
:)
A

--
IN HOC MODO MILLIS FRANGITVR .

Well, what gets me, what got me about this from the beginning was, why is he
telling ME that hes asking the elders to "release the files" and what not?
Get them to do so, analyze the data, bring me something real. Instead, this
"somethings going down and the elders wont talk about it" stuff is garbage
to me, because it not only hints at some major stuff about to go down--bad
stuff, of course!--but also drags the "elders" of these various nations into
the dirt, makes them equivalent to just some shadowy  govt agency steeped in
secrets.

Let  the indians keep their secrets. These elders owe it to neither me, nor
to this whitewolf, to share their wisdom, prophecy, etc, with us. We have
taken almost everything from them...why do we have to mount yet another
assault on their spirituality with what amounts to, yes, the sowing of still
more fear into an already skittish populace?!? People like this, im my
apparently not so humble opinion, are just dumbing down native american
spirituality for white, public comsumption, like it was just another
commodity,  Its insulting to me, and im not even indian. LEAVE THEM ALONE,
Chief Laughing Huckster! Go sell amway or something!

"the true prophet does not reveal the future, but rather reads and
interprets the present,"

eric hoffer. (paraphrased, im sure).

"hey white man, wanna know how the elections are gonna turn out? I got some
good indian prophecy here, real cheap: 50 bucks, keemosabe, paypal
friendly!"

--chief laughing huckster


whitewolf's rant beside,
we Cherokee have found Christianity to be quite analogous to our own faith
...
further, while some "Christians" were rogues, so were many of us.
On the other hand, the Great Spirit has reached out to all and has confirmed
some of Her messages in other lands ...
for instance Shining Shirt ...
:)
A

--
IN HOC MODO MILLIS FRANGITVR .





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Well, I apologize. I read it differently, im sorry if I stepped on some
spirit-toes with that comment.  Im tired of the doomsayers, is all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Griffith [mailto:despinn@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:24 AM
To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sl] Doot tee doo, people!

Gee, Keith,
I am truly shocked. John of Patmos gave the greatest message of hope: a new,
good world is coming.

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer




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Surely can't blame anyone for that.


Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

Hi,
Actually, isn't that part of what the sacred landscape is about? Encoding
esoteric information that was believed at the time (maybe disproven by now).
Now we can see a lot of things and call it good architecture or landscape,
but often so much meaning was built in, and we wanna know what it means. I
think that is half of why people worry about the Masonic Order.

If the Native Americans have their prophecies encoded in what sounds to us
like strange & esoteric speech, such as that forwarded email, it might be
worth taking a look. One time I did, I looked at all the prophecies on the
Internet. OK, so maybe I missed a lot of them. :) Basically, it was as Keith
says--a bunch of stuff designed, perhaps, to turn people toward doing good,
loving their brethren, & that kind of thing, which would surely turn aside
the coming evil that they all predict and wallow in. The better part of
prophecy seems to be that if we the people do what is right and turn from
evil, then the bad things will not happen.

lol, think of the story of Jonah and the Whale. After all the effort God put
into sending Jonah to preach damnation and destruction to the Ninevite
people, they ALL fasted and prayed, and the king even ordered that the
animals should fast. They made such a good effort that God decided to let
them off, at least temporarily. The hero Jonah, however, had plopped himself
down under a bit of shade to watch the fun as his country's enemies were
destroyed. He got pretty upset when he saw that they were not going to be
harmed. A very interesting story, embedded with all sorts of things.

hehe, I think this relates somewhat to the period before the Gregorian
calendar came into operation and acceptance. Under Anno Mundi and some other
calendars (everyone had a different calendar in those days), the 7th Day of
the Lord, that is, the Millenium of peace and plenty, as well as the Day of
Judgment, kept looming before the people and panic would set in. The keepers
of the calendars were kept busy changing the calendars in some way to keep
that day from occurring! Finally, Dionysius Exiguus put together a calendar,
now pretty much what we use as the Gregorian calendar, that would stave off
the Day of Judgment for about 2,000 years.

That was 4 years ago, folks, and the Day of Judgment apparently has passed
with nothing taking place. I think now people are looking forward (?) to
2012.

It's too bad we can't just enjoy living our lives without worrying about the
End. In that, Keith, I do fully agree with you.

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

Thanks, joan.

Many of the 'architects'  of old calendars understood the phenomenon of
astronomical precession, detailed in our time in the book "hamlets mill"
which we have talked about here.

The fact is, the priests and sages of one age look forward to the next with
nought but fear and dread. Why? Because in precessional time, the gods
themselves just take turns presiding over the cosmos...and after 2000, or
2160 years, or whatever, it's the next pantheon's turn.

Hence, the mayan calendar has the "fifth sun" ending in 2012--fairly close,
precessionally speaking, with the western version, the "age of pisces"
ending around the same time, i.e, now. And what is predicted? Massive
changes, upheavals, etc. just like revelation.

There is more ot all of this, of course, but alas,....i am at work...and
moreover, it has all been brought up here more than once, im sure.

Thanks for the discussion.

kd





Hi,
Actually, isn't that part of what the sacred landscape is about? Encoding
esoteric information that was believed at the time (maybe disproven by now).

Now we can see a lot of things and call it good architecture or landscape,
but often so much meaning was built in, and we wanna know what it means. I
think that is half of why people worry about the Masonic Order.

If the Native Americans have their prophecies encoded in what sounds to us
like strange & esoteric speech, such as that forwarded email, it might be
worth taking a look. One time I did, I looked at all the prophecies on the
Internet. OK, so maybe I missed a lot of them. :) Basically, it was as Keith
says--a bunch of stuff designed, perhaps, to turn people toward doing good,
loving their brethren, & that kind of thing, which would surely turn aside
the coming evil that they all predict and wallow in. The better part of
prophecy seems to be that if we the people do what is right and turn from
evil, then the bad things will not happen.

lol, think of the story of Jonah and the Whale. After all the effort God put
into sending Jonah to preach damnation and destruction to the Ninevite
people, they ALL fasted and prayed, and the king even ordered that the
animals should fast. They made such a good effort that God decided to let
them off, at least temporarily. The hero Jonah, however, had plopped himself
down under a bit of shade to watch the fun as his country's enemies were
destroyed. He got pretty upset when he saw that they were not going to be
harmed. A very interesting story, embedded with all sorts of things.

hehe, I think this relates somewhat to the period before the Gregorian
calendar came into operation and acceptance. Under Anno Mundi and some other
calendars (everyone had a different calendar in those days), the 7th Day of
the Lord, that is, the Millenium of peace and plenty, as well as the Day of
Judgment, kept looming before the people and panic would set in. The keepers
of the calendars were kept busy changing the calendars in some way to keep
that day from occurring! Finally, Dionysius Exiguus put together a calendar,
now pretty much what we use as the Gregorian calendar, that would stave off
the Day of Judgment for about 2,000 years.

That was 4 years ago, folks, and the Day of Judgment apparently has passed
with nothing taking place. I think now people are looking forward (?) to
2012.

It's too bad we can't just enjoy living our lives without worrying about the
End. In that, Keith, I do fully agree with you.

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer




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http://www.pdhomes.net/html/creations/Pages/8/White_Buffalo_Born.html

This must be what precipitated the Native American thing: a new baby.

I remember some years ago that a white buffalo was born; maybe it changed
color as it grew older? The coming of the white buffalo is supposed to
happen at "The End."

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

A white buffalo in north america=new life

A red heifer in the middle east = war

hmmmmm

-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Griffith [mailto:despinn@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:55 PM
To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Calendersign@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sl] On calendars and apocalypse

http://www.pdhomes.net/html/creations/Pages/8/White_Buffalo_Born.html

This must be what precipitated the Native American thing: a new baby.

I remember some years ago that a white buffalo was born; maybe it changed
color as it grew older? The coming of the white buffalo is supposed to
happen at "The End."

Joan
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uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer




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lol, I have heard about the red heifers, too. But they keep growing white
hairs. They actually are being raised here in the USA. But they don't mean
war, they are to be burned up and used for purification. I think the
Catholics do that too, put ashes in water, and then there is their holy
water.

That is sure to cause war, tho, because if the Jews built a temple on that
sacred landscape, there would be no holding back the Arabs.

Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

http://www.thom.org/gallery/unnat/

Perhaps some of these will be part of the future's sacred landscape items.



Joan
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so
uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.- Schopenhauer

He doesn't have Basshenge in Northern Minnesota

MINNESOTA—Basshenge, a monument inspired by Stonehenge, features 21 sculpted
bass instruments on 5-foot-tall concrete pillars. Bassist Joseph Guastafeste
spearheaded the attraction in 1999 near Birchdale (pop. 814).

www.basshenge.com

We thought so highly that it is in our Sacred Sites of Minnesota book which
is available through Amazon or BN.com
or signed copy through the authors (my wife and I)


John-Brian Paprock
"Sacred Sites of Minnesota" (2004)
"Sacred Sites of Wisconsin" (2001)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/sites.html
Photo Exhibit (Wisconsin)
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/inroads/ssphoto.html




-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Griffith [mailto:despinn@...]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:13 AM
To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sl] "Unnatural Wonders"


http://www.thom.org/gallery/unnat/

Perhaps some of these will be part of the future's sacred landscape items.



Joan
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I HEREBY CHALLENGE THE ELDERS

Posted By: DarrelWhitewolf

Date: Monday, 24 May 2004, 8:16 a.m.

I Darrel Whitewolf, elder of Cherokee decent, with this powerful
message, hereby challenge the elders of all native nations. I hereby
petition for the immediate release of sacred information to all
humanity concerned for the immediate future of their families and loved
ones.

At the risk of having many arrows shot in my direction, I send this
message.

I am an old warrior who is no stranger to battles.

It has been brought to my attention that the elders at this time are
preparing the last ceremonies. The Hopi who have no word in their
vocabulary for the future and are preparing to go underground. The
Ojibwa and the Lakota are saying that we are at the end. They say and I
quote "Go back and tell the people it is no longer the eleventh hour".
It is said that the blue star (katchina) has arrived and the "Purifier"
(a large celestial body) follows. It's time for the "CLEANSING" THE
"THIRD SHAKING".

It is time to tell the people about the arrival of the watchers from
the skies who don't look like us and the ones underground as well.
I have heard that White Buffalo Calf Woman has returned. I have been
told to teach the stories of creation and how we must become together
as one. This is not enough.

Chief Lookinghorse has delivered his messages at sacred sites all over
the world but it is still unclear to non indian people just what is
happening now, this very year, maybe even this very next month.

It is perfectly clear to me but who will believe one person?

It is not enough to quote verses from the bible. It is not enough to
tell the old stories. It is not enough to talk about the animals and
what it means when a certain one shows up in your life.

I think I can safely say that I speak for all readers here when I
challenge you for the plain and simple truth about what is about to
happen. No more Bible verses from the unbalanced cross brought by the
ones who stole our land, raped our women and killed our children. The
ones manipulated by the watchers.

No more old stories. No more codes.

People do not want to hear this nonsense any longer because time is too
short. I know that you know. I also know that there is still prejudice
in the hearts of some of you and you do not want non-indian people to
know these things.

It is time and the time is now for you to speak clearly and decisevely
in releasing the information needed for people of all nations to
prepare themselves practically, safely, physically and spiritually.

There is talk that the Pope is giving his final blessings. He speaks of
the fact that "Wormwood" (Planet X) has arrived. There is talk that
supposed astronomers are watching something large speeding toward
Earth. There is clear and unmistakable evidence that the skies day and
night have suddenly changed dramatically. The moon has changed its
orbit and appears in the west sky now when it rises. The stars are
turning around in the sky at night and moving slower. The Earth Mother
staggers like a drunk.

With great respect to the Creator, I bow to him in a humble way and ask
for guidance in these matters not for me but for my brothers and
sisters, my friends and families.

With great respect for the elders I ask you to put this knowledge forth
and  back up your words which say Mitakoye Oyasin. We are all your
brothers and sisters. Will you leave us behind, only knowing half
truths?

Grandfather forgive me if I have offended as this message comes from my
heart and the Spirit of Crazy Horse inside me speaking. Grandfather
forgive those who still hold contempt for the white man, the black man,
the red and the yellow.

We send our prayers to you with the smoke from the sacred pipe on the
wings of our brother Awahili, the Eagle.

I ask that you keep all of us here in your presense now and for ever.

Let the truths become clear to all.

Wado, Wakan Tanka, Aho

That is all I have to say.


Darrel Whitewolf

http://www.haveyouthought.com/ContactUs.htm


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[Sunbow] Re: Re: LAST ceremonies & Auntie Moon ...


...

aho, Earth sister/brothers!


it is true that Auntie Moon left the
orbit of the schedule of the 'clocks' of
civilization!!

SHE has been driven far away from the death
screams of her beloved Sister Gaia!

far and away -- as human civilization as strayed
FAR FAR AND AWAY from nature, from the living,
from the divine truth.

as ALL aboriginal people's know -- there is
no time, only harmony. the universal song.


and the music of our lives moves in annual
rhythms of THIRTEEN MOONS!!


no World-Gangster-Government-Industrial-
Corporate-Gangster-Banking-State clock EVER
moved in synchronicity with love, respect -- or
our living loving cosmos.


the dreamtime is the all, now, sacred
DIVINE time.


no time at all ....


mitakuye oyasin,




Millennium Twain

father of the US/International Space Station Program,
publisher of the Structure of the Nucleus,
author of The Undiscovered Physics,
designer of the X49 Scramjet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalPhilosopHER




...




..

Campaign to save Silbury Hill, the world's largest prehistoric mound.
Silbury Hill is Britain's equivalent of the Egyptian pyramids and
predating many of them.  Its summit collapsed four years ago and they
seek to prevent further destruction.

http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/wiltshire/marlborough/news/
MARLB_NEWS_LOCAL2.html

Silbury Hill is in the West of England (near Avebury).  The confusing
similarly named "Solsbury Hill" is also in the West of England near
Bath.  Solsbury Hill is an iron-age settlement.  It was the theme of
Peter Gabriel's song of the same title, who lives near the hill.

-Chris

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lighten my bookload.  If you are interested in any of these titles,
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Michell, John.  "The Dimensions of Paradise".
Kramer, Samuel Noah.  "History Begins at Sumer".
Shlain, Leonard.  "The Alphabet vs. the Goddess".
Burkert, Walter.  "Creation of the Sacred: Tracks of Biology in Early
Religions".
Birrell, Anne.  "Chinese Mythology: An Introduction".
Hayes, Michael.  "The Infinite Harmony: Musical Structures in Science
and Theology".
Fulcanelli.  "The Mystery of Cathedrals".
Hamilton, Edith.  "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes".
Smith, Huston.  "The Illustrated World's Religion: A Guide to Our
Wisdom Traditions".
The Noble Qur'an, translated by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and
Dr. Muhammad  Muhsin Khan.
Critchlow, Keith.  "Order in Space: A Design Source Book".
A Lion Handbook: The World's Religions.
Frankfort, Henri; Frankfort, Mrs. H.A.; Wilson, John A.; Jacobsen,
Thorkild.  "Before  Philosophy: A study of the primitive myths,
beliefs, and speculations of Egypt and  Mesopotamia, out of which grew
the religions and philosophies of the later world."
Guiley, Rosemary Ellen.  "Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal
Experience".
Wilson, Colin.  "From Atlantis to the Sphinx: Recovering the Lost
Wisdom of the Ancient  World."
Hancock, Graham.  "Fingerprints of the Gods: A Quest for the Beginning
and the End".
Faurot, Jeannette.  "Asian-Pacific Folktales and Legends".
Knappert, Jan.  "African Mythology: An Encyclopedia of Myth and Legend".
Duane, O.B.  "Feng Shui: The Origins of Wisdom".
Levi-Strauss, Claude.  "Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture".
Hooke, S.H.  "Middle Eastern Mythology".
Mackenzie, Donald A.  "China and Japan: Myths and Legends".
The Wordsworth Dictionary of Mythology.
Mosher, Gouverneur.  "Kyoto: A Contemplative Guide".
McDermott, Bridget.  "Decoding Egyptian Hieroglyphs: How to read the
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Groenewegen-Frankfort, H.A.; Ashmole, Bernard.  "Art of the Ancient
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Mesopotamia, Crete, Greece, and Rome".
Pennick, Nigel.  "Magical Alphabets: The Secrets and Significance of
Ancient Scripts-- Including Runes, Greek, Ogham, Hebrew and Alchemical
Alphabets".
Pennick, Nigel.  "Sacred Geometry: Symbolism and Purpose in Religious
Structures".
"Myth: a symposium", ed. Thomas A. Sebeok.
Fletcher, Joann.  "Ancient Egypt".
Graves, Robert.  "The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic
Myth".
Graves, Robert.  "The Greek Myths", vols. 1 & 2.
Jung, Carl (ed.).  "Man and His Symbols".
"Egyptian Wall Paintings From Tombs and Temples".
Fideler, David.  "Jesus Christ, Sun of God: Ancient Cosmology and Early
Christian  Symbolism".
Santillana, Giorgio de; Dechend, Hertha von.  "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay
Investigating the  Origins of Human Knowledge and its Transmission
Through Myth".
Cooper, D. Jason.  "Mithras: Mysteries and Initiation Rediscovered".
Jay, Roni.  "Teach Yourself Mythology".
The Observer's Book of Architecture.
Scholem, Gershom.  "Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism".
Schneider, Michael S.  "A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the
Universe: The Mathematical Archetypes of Nature, Art, and Science".
Frankfort, Henri.  "The Art and Architecture of the Ancient Orient".

Why not put them up on ebay?


>From: CG <groups@...>
>Reply-To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com
>To: Sacred Landscape <sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [sl] books for sale
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:34:55 +0900
>
>I am moving from Japan to Canada this year.  Currently, I am trying to
>lighten my bookload.  If you are interested in any of these titles,
>please contact me off list if you would like to help out.
>
>A few are rare and I recommend many for matters pertaining to this list:
>
>Michell, John.  "The Dimensions of Paradise".
>Kramer, Samuel Noah.  "History Begins at Sumer".
>Shlain, Leonard.  "The Alphabet vs. the Goddess".
>Burkert, Walter.  "Creation of the Sacred: Tracks of Biology in Early
>Religions".
>Birrell, Anne.  "Chinese Mythology: An Introduction".
>Hayes, Michael.  "The Infinite Harmony: Musical Structures in Science
>and Theology".
>Fulcanelli.  "The Mystery of Cathedrals".
>Hamilton, Edith.  "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes".
>Smith, Huston.  "The Illustrated World's Religion: A Guide to Our
>Wisdom Traditions".
>The Noble Qur'an, translated by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and
>Dr. Muhammad  Muhsin Khan.
>Critchlow, Keith.  "Order in Space: A Design Source Book".
>A Lion Handbook: The World's Religions.
>Frankfort, Henri; Frankfort, Mrs. H.A.; Wilson, John A.; Jacobsen,
>Thorkild.  "Before  Philosophy: A study of the primitive myths,
>beliefs, and speculations of Egypt and  Mesopotamia, out of which grew
>the religions and philosophies of the later world."
>Guiley, Rosemary Ellen.  "Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal
>Experience".
>Wilson, Colin.  "From Atlantis to the Sphinx: Recovering the Lost
>Wisdom of the Ancient  World."
>Hancock, Graham.  "Fingerprints of the Gods: A Quest for the Beginning
>and the End".
>Faurot, Jeannette.  "Asian-Pacific Folktales and Legends".
>Knappert, Jan.  "African Mythology: An Encyclopedia of Myth and Legend".
>Duane, O.B.  "Feng Shui: The Origins of Wisdom".
>Levi-Strauss, Claude.  "Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture".
>Hooke, S.H.  "Middle Eastern Mythology".
>Mackenzie, Donald A.  "China and Japan: Myths and Legends".
>The Wordsworth Dictionary of Mythology.
>Mosher, Gouverneur.  "Kyoto: A Contemplative Guide".
>McDermott, Bridget.  "Decoding Egyptian Hieroglyphs: How to read the
>secret language of the  Pharaohs".
>Groenewegen-Frankfort, H.A.; Ashmole, Bernard.  "Art of the Ancient
>World: Painting, Pottery,  Sculpture, & Architecture from Egypt,
>Mesopotamia, Crete, Greece, and Rome".
>Pennick, Nigel.  "Magical Alphabets: The Secrets and Significance of
>Ancient Scripts-- Including Runes, Greek, Ogham, Hebrew and Alchemical
>Alphabets".
>Pennick, Nigel.  "Sacred Geometry: Symbolism and Purpose in Religious
>Structures".
>"Myth: a symposium", ed. Thomas A. Sebeok.
>Fletcher, Joann.  "Ancient Egypt".
>Graves, Robert.  "The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic
>Myth".
>Graves, Robert.  "The Greek Myths", vols. 1 & 2.
>Jung, Carl (ed.).  "Man and His Symbols".
>"Egyptian Wall Paintings From Tombs and Temples".
>Fideler, David.  "Jesus Christ, Sun of God: Ancient Cosmology and Early
>Christian  Symbolism".
>Santillana, Giorgio de; Dechend, Hertha von.  "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay
>Investigating the  Origins of Human Knowledge and its Transmission
>Through Myth".
>Cooper, D. Jason.  "Mithras: Mysteries and Initiation Rediscovered".
>Jay, Roni.  "Teach Yourself Mythology".
>The Observer's Book of Architecture.
>Scholem, Gershom.  "Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism".
>Schneider, Michael S.  "A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the
>Universe: The Mathematical Archetypes of Nature, Art, and Science".
>Frankfort, Henri.  "The Art and Architecture of the Ancient Orient".
>
>
>
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purchases?
Ley

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From: "dennis myers" <d_myers_@...>
To: <sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: [sl] books for sale


> Why not put them up on ebay?
>
>
> >From: CG <groups@...>
> >Reply-To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Sacred Landscape <sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [sl] books for sale
> >Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:34:55 +0900
> >
> >I am moving from Japan to Canada this year.  Currently, I am trying to
> >lighten my bookload.  If you are interested in any of these titles,
> >please contact me off list if you would like to help out.
> >
> >A few are rare and I recommend many for matters pertaining to this list:
> >
> >Michell, John.  "The Dimensions of Paradise".
> >Kramer, Samuel Noah.  "History Begins at Sumer".
> >Shlain, Leonard.  "The Alphabet vs. the Goddess".
> >Burkert, Walter.  "Creation of the Sacred: Tracks of Biology in Early
> >Religions".
> >Birrell, Anne.  "Chinese Mythology: An Introduction".
> >Hayes, Michael.  "The Infinite Harmony: Musical Structures in Science
> >and Theology".
> >Fulcanelli.  "The Mystery of Cathedrals".
> >Hamilton, Edith.  "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes".
> >Smith, Huston.  "The Illustrated World's Religion: A Guide to Our
> >Wisdom Traditions".
> >The Noble Qur'an, translated by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and
> >Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan.
> >Critchlow, Keith.  "Order in Space: A Design Source Book".
> >A Lion Handbook: The World's Religions.
> >Frankfort, Henri; Frankfort, Mrs. H.A.; Wilson, John A.; Jacobsen,
> >Thorkild.  "Before Philosophy: A study of the primitive myths,
> >beliefs, and speculations of Egypt and Mesopotamia, out of which grew
> >the religions and philosophies of the later world."
> >Guiley, Rosemary Ellen.  "Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal
> >Experience".
> >Wilson, Colin.  "From Atlantis to the Sphinx: Recovering the Lost
> >Wisdom of the Ancient World."
> >Hancock, Graham.  "Fingerprints of the Gods: A Quest for the Beginning
> >and the End".
> >Faurot, Jeannette.  "Asian-Pacific Folktales and Legends".
> >Knappert, Jan.  "African Mythology: An Encyclopedia of Myth and Legend".
> >Duane, O.B.  "Feng Shui: The Origins of Wisdom".
> >Levi-Strauss, Claude.  "Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture".
> >Hooke, S.H.  "Middle Eastern Mythology".
> >Mackenzie, Donald A.  "China and Japan: Myths and Legends".
> >The Wordsworth Dictionary of Mythology.
> >Mosher, Gouverneur.  "Kyoto: A Contemplative Guide".
> >McDermott, Bridget.  "Decoding Egyptian Hieroglyphs: How to read the
> >secret language of the Pharaohs".
> >Groenewegen-Frankfort, H.A.; Ashmole, Bernard.  "Art of the Ancient
> >World: Painting, Pottery, Sculpture, & Architecture from Egypt,
> >Mesopotamia, Crete, Greece, and Rome".
> >Pennick, Nigel.  "Magical Alphabets: The Secrets and Significance of
> >Ancient Scripts-- Including Runes, Greek, Ogham, Hebrew and Alchemical
> >Alphabets".
> >Pennick, Nigel.  "Sacred Geometry: Symbolism and Purpose in Religious
> >Structures".
> >"Myth: a symposium", ed. Thomas A. Sebeok.
> >Fletcher, Joann.  "Ancient Egypt".
> >Graves, Robert.  "The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic
> >Myth".
> >Graves, Robert.  "The Greek Myths", vols. 1 & 2.
> >Jung, Carl (ed.).  "Man and His Symbols".
> >"Egyptian Wall Paintings From Tombs and Temples".
> >Fideler, David.  "Jesus Christ, Sun of God: Ancient Cosmology and Early
> >Christian Symbolism".
> >Santillana, Giorgio de; Dechend, Hertha von.  "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay
> >Investigating the Origins of Human Knowledge and its Transmission
> >Through Myth".
> >Cooper, D. Jason.  "Mithras: Mysteries and Initiation Rediscovered".
> >Jay, Roni.  "Teach Yourself Mythology".
> >The Observer's Book of Architecture.
> >Scholem, Gershom.  "Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism".
> >Schneider, Michael S.  "A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the
> >Universe: The Mathematical Archetypes of Nature, Art, and Science".
> >Frankfort, Henri.  "The Art and Architecture of the Ancient Orient".
> >
> >
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hasn't that whitewolf character already spammed us once?
A

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IN HOC MODO MILLIS FRANGITVR .

--- In sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com, Ambrose Hawk <ahawk@c...>
wrote:
> hasn't that whitewolf character already spammed us once?
> A
>
Yes, a third time and he is out.  He has something to say, but so far
it's pretty much just rant.

Moderator Dan

By the way, while I have my moderator hat on, I have to beg you one
more time, Ambrose, to put in a real subject rather than default to a
Digest Number.  Easy to do I know, but please try to remember for the
sake of our archival threads!

Thanks,

Dan

> --
> IN HOC MODO MILLIS FRANGITVR .

Hi! I am interested in the following books:


Michell, John.  "The Dimensions of Paradise".
Fulcanelli.  "The Mystery of Cathedrals".

I am located in in london, United Kingdom.
Could you please let me know what price you are asking for these
books, including P&P.
All the best! Protoklis Nicola.

Hello,

My name's Amy Martin, or Moonlady. I'm an author living in Dallas,
Texas, where I am a leader/coordinator for an Earth-centered
spirituality community. I have a question for the group and would
appreciate your help.

I'll be leaving soon on a Summer Solstice pilgrimage to the Black
Hills of South Dakota. This land of mountains and mesas, prairies and
deserts, is associated with White Buffalo Woman. Alas, the folks with
the white buffalo calves have moved to Flagstaff, AZ. Are there any
special places or people that folks on the list would suggest I visit?
I'll be visiting all the big names -- the Badlands, Wind Cave, Devil's
Tower, Harney Peak, Bear Butte, Wounded Knee, and the Crazy Horse and
Mount Rushmore memorials. But I am also seeking places with great
spiritual resonance that are not so famous in history or associated
with any traditions.

If you're feeling chatty, you can share with me your thoughts in
general about goddess and divine feminine traditions and sacred sites
in North America.

Thanks!

peace. . . Amy

I'd include India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Ceylon, and parts,
but not all of Burma.
There was some influence in Afghanistan, but that area is
esoterically closely linked to Iran.
Nepal, Sikkum, etc. on the Himalayan fringe are a sort of
transition state ... being alternately Indian and Tibetan in
atmosphere ... frankly, you'd usually do better to assume
Tibetan in most cases.
Just an IMHO!
LOL
A

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IN HOC MODO MILLIS FRANGITVR .

--- CG <groups@...> wrote: > I am moving
from Japan to Canada this year.
> Currently, I am trying to
> lighten my bookload.  If you are interested in any
> of these titles,
> please contact me off list if you would like to help
> out.
>
> A few are rare and I recommend many for matters
> pertaining to this list:
>
> Michell, John.  "The Dimensions of Paradise".
> Kramer, Samuel Noah.  "History Begins at Sumer".
> Shlain, Leonard.  "The Alphabet vs. the Goddess".
> Burkert, Walter.  "Creation of the Sacred: Tracks of
> Biology in Early
> Religions".
> Birrell, Anne.  "Chinese Mythology: An
> Introduction".
> Hayes, Michael.  "The Infinite Harmony: Musical
> Structures in Science
> and Theology".
> Fulcanelli.  "The Mystery of Cathedrals".
> Hamilton, Edith.  "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods
> and Heroes".
> Smith, Huston.  "The Illustrated World's Religion: A
> Guide to Our
> Wisdom Traditions".
> The Noble Qur'an, translated by Dr. Muhammad
> Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and
> Dr. Muhammad  Muhsin Khan.
> Critchlow, Keith.  "Order in Space: A Design Source
> Book".
> A Lion Handbook: The World's Religions.
> Frankfort, Henri; Frankfort, Mrs. H.A.; Wilson, John
> A.; Jacobsen,
> Thorkild.  "Before  Philosophy: A study of the
> primitive myths,
> beliefs, and speculations of Egypt and  Mesopotamia,
> out of which grew
> the religions and philosophies of the later world."
> Guiley, Rosemary Ellen.  "Encyclopedia of Mystical &
> Paranormal
> Experience".
> Wilson, Colin.  "From Atlantis to the Sphinx:
> Recovering the Lost
> Wisdom of the Ancient  World."
> Hancock, Graham.  "Fingerprints of the Gods: A Quest
> for the Beginning
> and the End".
> Faurot, Jeannette.  "Asian-Pacific Folktales and
> Legends".
> Knappert, Jan.  "African Mythology: An Encyclopedia
> of Myth and Legend".
> Duane, O.B.  "Feng Shui: The Origins of Wisdom".
> Levi-Strauss, Claude.  "Myth and Meaning: Cracking
> the Code of Culture".
> Hooke, S.H.  "Middle Eastern Mythology".
> Mackenzie, Donald A.  "China and Japan: Myths and
> Legends".
> The Wordsworth Dictionary of Mythology.
> Mosher, Gouverneur.  "Kyoto: A Contemplative Guide".
> McDermott, Bridget.  "Decoding Egyptian Hieroglyphs:
> How to read the
> secret language of the  Pharaohs".
> Groenewegen-Frankfort, H.A.; Ashmole, Bernard.  "Art
> of the Ancient
> World: Painting, Pottery,  Sculpture, & Architecture
> from Egypt,
> Mesopotamia, Crete, Greece, and Rome".
> Pennick, Nigel.  "Magical Alphabets: The Secrets and
> Significance of
> Ancient Scripts-- Including Runes, Greek, Ogham,
> Hebrew and Alchemical
> Alphabets".
> Pennick, Nigel.  "Sacred Geometry: Symbolism and
> Purpose in Religious
> Structures".
> "Myth: a symposium", ed. Thomas A. Sebeok.
> Fletcher, Joann.  "Ancient Egypt".
> Graves, Robert.  "The White Goddess: A Historical
> Grammar of Poetic
> Myth".
> Graves, Robert.  "The Greek Myths", vols. 1 & 2.
> Jung, Carl (ed.).  "Man and His Symbols".
> "Egyptian Wall Paintings From Tombs and Temples".
> Fideler, David.  "Jesus Christ, Sun of God: Ancient
> Cosmology and Early
> Christian  Symbolism".
> Santillana, Giorgio de; Dechend, Hertha von.
> "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay
> Investigating the  Origins of Human Knowledge and
> its Transmission
> Through Myth".
> Cooper, D. Jason.  "Mithras: Mysteries and
> Initiation Rediscovered".
> Jay, Roni.  "Teach Yourself Mythology".
> The Observer's Book of Architecture.
> Scholem, Gershom.  "Major Trends in Jewish
> Mysticism".
> Schneider, Michael S.  "A Beginner's Guide to
> Constructing the
> Universe: The Mathematical Archetypes of Nature,
> Art, and Science".
> Frankfort, Henri.  "The Art and Architecture of the
> Ancient Orient".
>
>
>
> Topics suitable for discussion in this e-list can be
> found at:
> http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredland.html
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Hello,
I am interested in purchasing from you the following
titles:
Keith Critchelow - 'Order in Space'
Colin Wilson - 'From Atlantis to the Sphinx'
Michael S. Schneider - 'A Beginners Guide to
Constructing the Universe'.
If any of these titles remain unsold please let me
know.
John






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--- In sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandra_108"
<alexandra_108@y...> wrote:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacred-geography-of-India
> Temples
> Shrines
> Ashrams
> Mountains
> Rivers
> focus is on places associated with Shiva or Devi
> Because this group is about RELIGIOUS not political geography,
> Pakistan & Bangladesh (which were once part of India), Nepal and
Sri
> Lanka are also discussed.
>
> Alexandra

Hello everyone,

In the weekend I was in the south of Limburg, a province in my
country. before the weekend something entered my mind, and could
expect 5 or 6 menhirs in this region. In the weekend I found one of
them and checked it with dowsing. I was correct, I even was able to
see the energies of the menhir. It was 3 of 4 metres high and was
standing on a leycentre with 6 leylines. Because lack of time I
haven't had the time to search and visit the other sites with lost
menhirs, but roughly they lie on high points in the landscape with
the shape of a hexagon. Each corner is marked with a menhir.
The distance from a menhir to the opposite one is about 10
kilometres / 0,62 miles.

I never have seen this in this scale in Holland, or elsewhere that I
know of. Has anyone heard of something like this elsewhere?

Best wishes,
Romaine

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