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Re: [sandvox] Re: Why is Safari 4 so bad?

Barry,

First of all I like your video work.  I would like to get into video in the USA.  I need to pick up a camera, and start honing my craft.  I'm a still guy from back in the day.

I have the same problem with 10.4.11 and Safari 4.  I just upgraded to Safari 4.0.2 (Version 4.0.2 (4530.19)). with the hope of resolving the issue, but no luck.  I was on the phone with Apple for an hour before they admitted they were having a problem with 4.0.  They told me to hang in there till they came up with a fix.

In my case I am getting a message with another web authoring software, that Flash is not installed - Please click here to install the Flash player to see this website correctly.  Flash is installed correctly of course as tested by the Adobe site - tested with Apple on the line.

I asked Apple about reverting to an old version of Safari, and was told to re-install my OS in order to get back to Safari 3.x.  Of course, this sounds like a lame idea to me, so I'm not going to do that.

I'm using Firefox in the meantime with no problems at all.

Vincent

On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:39 AM, bjwdirect wrote:

Thanks for all this info - wow! such a lot to do in order to uninstall. If think it's best that I wait a while before trying something like this - I'd hate to make the problem worse.

Barry

--- In sandvox@yahoogroups.com, Agatha <aunt.agatha@...> wrote:
>
> OK, here's another go.
>
> 1. Download Pacifist and open the Safari 3.2.3.dmg
> 2. Look in the Resources tab and look for a file called Payload
> 3. Extract "Payload" to your desktop and unzip it, it won't show up as
> zip but you should be able to unzip it. If not, press Enter and
> add .zip to it and save it with the .zip extension.
> 4. After unzipping the "Payload" folder you'll need to replace the
> files in the folders in the exact area on your system. So you navigate
> to one of the folders and only erase what is in the "Payload" and
> replace the "Payload" version of that file to where you erased it
> from, and so on until all your "Payload" files have been put into the
> system to their respective places.
> 5. Repair you disk permissions and reboot your machine.
> 6. Run Safari 3.2.3 installer and it should run without having to ask
> you where it will be installed.
> 7. After the installer finishes, you'll need to reboot.
> 8. Enjoy, there's nothing wrong with 4 but I don't think it's quite
> ready yet. For me it seems to be crashing from page to page. It looks
> like some sort of memory problem. But 3.2.3 is working fine and has
> been.
>
> Re Tiger:
> To me it looks like the Tiger version of the Safari 3.2.3 package has
> the application listed directly in the Package Contents tab of
> Pacifist unlike the leopard version. This is good for those who wish
> to completely downgrade from Safari 4 and leave no trace of it on
> their machines. Those wishing to do this should be able to select the
> package in Pacifist and click the install button in the toolbar. This
> will replace the Safari 4 files in the /System/Library and the /usr
> directory with the Safari 3 versions. If you want to run side by side
> installs, you simply select Safari.app from the Applications directory
> in the Package Contents tab and click extract, placing the application
> wherever you like. When that is finished, just follow the directions
> from earlier in this thread to modify the Info.plist file and correct
> the preferences issue.
>
> More for Tiger:
> Thanks for all the info here. I'm using Tiger so the Pacifist process
> was a lot simpler for me. I had manually deleted all files I could
> find related to Safari 4, but still couldn't install the older
> version. Extracted/installed 'Safari.app' using Pacificist and now I'm
> back in 3.2.3 heaven.
>
> I'm using Tiger and it was very easy to do the update using Pacifist.
> After opening Safari 3.2.3 in Pacifist all I had to do was select the
> Package Contents of 3.2.3 under the Pacifist "Package Contents" tab
> and then click install in Pacifist. I was not interested in a side by
> side with S4. S4 is gone.
>
>
> It's from:
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9600739&#9600739
>
> See also here:
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2032359&tstart=0
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Hetty
>
> On 11 Jul 2009, at 19:20, bjwdirect wrote:
>
> > There's no uninstaller with the Safari 4!
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > --- In sandvox@yahoogroups.com, Agatha <aunt.agatha@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's a possible solution.
> >> Download Safari4 again and reinstall it. There is an uninstaller with
> >> it. With this uninstaller you can uninstall Safari4 and with a good
> >> copy of Safari3 (either from Apple or your TM backup) you should be
> >> able to go back to Safari3.
> >> Let me know if it works out.
> >>
> >> Hetty
> >>
>




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Hi: This might seem off topic, but I've just downloaded the latest Beta of Sandvox to see if my site improves. I currently have some smart Flash movie files...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
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You can trash Safari4, then install Safari3 again: http://support.apple.com/downloads/Safari_3_2_1_for_Leopard Hetty...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
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Do they have this option for Tiger?...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
4:01 pm

Yes, they have: http://support.apple.com/downloads/Safari_3_2_1_for_Tiger Success. Hetty...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
4:13 pm

But surely that's an update. I've just tried it and it says that I have a newer one installed. Yes, I know you said to trash it first, but this goes against...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
4:19 pm

Sorry about that. So does this mean that Apple is preventing reinstallation of Safari3? I'll check this out. It should be possible to restore Safari3 from a...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
4:59 pm

No back up and no Time Machine ( I believe the latter is a Leopard thing?) Thanks Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
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The only safe way to uninstall Safari 4 is using the Uninstaller included in the Safari 4 Download package. Try running the uninstaller. If it works it will...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
5:10 pm

The uninstaller was only available with the Beta. It's not available now. Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
5:19 pm

One more reason to be weary of new versions. I'll check some more and come back to you when I found something. Would it be possible to copy the app from...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
7:30 pm

Can you drag Safari3 from your applications in TimeMachine backup? Hetty...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
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I don't have Time Machine. Just to confirm: I have Tiger 10.4.11 and running Safari Version 4.0 (4530.17) Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
5:08 pm

Here's a possible solution. Download Safari4 again and reinstall it. There is an uninstaller with it. With this uninstaller you can uninstall Safari4 and with...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
5:08 pm

There's no uninstaller with the Safari 4! Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
5:21 pm

OK, here's another go. 1. Download Pacifist and open the Safari 3.2.3.dmg 2. Look in the Resources tab and look for a file called Payload 3. Extract "Payload"...
Agatha
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Jul 11, 2009
7:56 pm

Thanks for all this info - wow! such a lot to do in order to uninstall. If think it's best that I wait a while before trying something like this - I'd hate to...
bjwdirect
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Jul 12, 2009
1:39 pm

Barry, First of all I like your video work. I would like to get into video in the USA. I need to pick up a camera, and start honing my craft. I'm a still guy...
Vincent
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Jul 12, 2009
3:50 pm

Thanks so much for this response - now I know I'm not going mad and others are in a similar situation. I guess that's the real answer: wait for Apple to come...
bjwdirect
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Jul 12, 2009
6:52 pm

Barry, I'm not having problems with Flash or implementing Flash. I'm just having problems with Safari 4 integrating the way it should with Flash. Best, ...
Vincent
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Jul 12, 2009
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It looks like the latest version of Firefox was developed with the mac in mind. The colour rendering now is closer to what you have in Safari (somewhat lighter...
Agatha
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Jul 12, 2009
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Greetings! Seems that if you're not running Leopard, an earlier version of Safari might be best for you. With Leopard, Safari 4 is a star! Curt ... ☼ Mexico:...
Curt Hahn
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Jul 11, 2009
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No issues at all with Sandvox in Leopard? Problem is I don't want a star, no bling or iCandy, but an efficient, quick browser. And when I had Safari4 it was...
Agatha
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Le 11.07.2009 13:59, l'estimable internaute, *bjwdirect*, se manifesta en tapotant : 'llo ! ... As far as I know, Safari 4 is no more a beta. Did you install...
Jean-Noel
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Jul 11, 2009
4:19 pm

Just trying that now. I've been clicking update everyday, but there's been nothing. Fingers crossed this may be better Thanks Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
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Just tried the newer version - still the same problem. Looks like Firefox from now on - great shame! Barry...
bjwdirect
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Jul 11, 2009
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Hi Barry, I just visited your site in Safari 4 and then in Firefox 3.5. Both sites came up rather quickly but Safari 4 actually came up a bit faster. All of...
bbyrdhouse52
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Jul 11, 2009
7:45 pm

Thanks Gary! At least if the site is working well on computers then perhaps it's just a case of a problem my end. I shan't worry about this now and later...
bjwdirect
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Jul 12, 2009
1:37 pm

Barry, your site looks great (isn't that the Night Breeze theme) and works just fine for me. I'm using an old iBook (933 mhz) running OS X 10.4.11 and Safari...
Mike Grimm
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Jul 12, 2009
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Hi Gary: Yes, it is the night Breeze theme, and thanks for the complement. Maybe there's a problem with my computer, it's just that some of the videos of the...
bjwdirect
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