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> We should do it the Chinese way: Bulgar-land, Bulgar-man,
> Bulgar-language...

ARGH! Sorry, I misrepresented that. I mean "Bulgar-land-man".

> ethnic groups with no political entities (ex:
> Kurds, though that may soon change)

Off-topic: will not be allowed by the Turkish military in the foreseeable
future.

> Some nations are named for the people
> (ex: Deutschland), and some people are named after their nation
> (Français).

Mandarin: De2guo2 -- De2guo2ren2 -- De2yu3 (language); Fa3guo2 --
Fa3guo2ren2 -- Fa3yu3. The roots do not occur alone. (Well, the characters
that are used to write them do occur alone, but with completely different
meanings.)

> Others are not aligned at all as with China (Zhongguo)
> and its people (Han)

Indeed: Zhong1guo2ren2 (citizens of China) vs Han4ren2 (ethnic Han4); the
Sinitic language family is called Han4yu3. Better example: Han2guo2 (Korea),
Han2guo2ren2 (citizen of Korea), Han2ren2 (ethnic Korean), Han2yu3
(language).

> If we took the "Chinese way" we'd have to
> make things like "America-language"

We could. We wouldn't need to. After all, it is entirely grammatical to take
"American" in English and pretend it's a language.

> The answer is to make each one a proper noun. Proper nouns being
> taken from native forms therefore they will be arranged in their
> native fashion.

Way too complicated.




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Hi, I've a lot of comments about the S:S dictionary, I'll post them as time allows. I think that in cases where in a local language the name of person and that...
Dmitri Ivanov
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Jun 6, 2008
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... time allows. ... and ... for ... words ... tong ... at ... No, there aren't any words ending with clusters. There may be some *names* like that but...
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Jun 6, 2008
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... We should _most definitely not_ do it the Esperanto way (described in the bottom half of http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/s.html). We should do it...
David Marjanovic
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Jun 6, 2008
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... in the ... We should ... This presumes that the whole world is made up of nations whose people, language and culture are all in pefect alignment. In ...
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Jun 6, 2008
2:15 pm

A part of entry under "fut" seems to be under "futon". Compound words like hatifxkam are easily analysible but the actual meaning might be vague: I thought at...
Dmitri Ivanov
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Jun 6, 2008
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... I'll have to take a look. I know the dictionary needs a lot of cleanup. Especially since there have been changes where I haven't had time to update both...
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Jun 6, 2008
2:29 pm

... ARGH! Sorry, I misrepresented that. I mean "Bulgar-land-man". ... Off-topic: will not be allowed by the Turkish military in the foreseeable future. ... ...
David Marjanovic
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Jun 6, 2008
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... being ... Yes, it's complicated but so is the subject. It would be nice if it was all arranged into a neat little package where each ethinicity has a...
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Jun 6, 2008
11:14 pm

... Did you read the rest of the e-mail you quoted?...
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