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novxdunut dinu 18,12,2005   Message List  
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Re: [sasxsek] novxdunut dinu 18,12,2005

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:56 AM

> viti = Fiji
> madjarorsag = Hungary
> qomun = Macau
> tsjaq'dzjaq = Yangze
> dunav = Danube

Fine, except for the Yangzi: if you really want a language without
(phonemic) shibilants, it'd IMHO be better to look at real examples (like
Greek -- /sOkO'laDa/ "chocolate"... or your own <viti>!) than to introduce
sibilant-plus-/j/ which will be obvious to Dutchmen and maybe Swedes but a
formidable consonant cluster to most other people. I'm also not quite happy
about the word-initial /N/ of Macau. While globally quite common, Europeans
in general* have real trouble imagining that kind of phenomenon, and
Mandarin, too, lacks this feature.

* Maybe Albanian has it. I'm not sure.

Are there optional schwas or something in <madjarorsag>? (These particular
consonant clusters, however, certainly rank among the easier ones.)




Tue Jan 3, 2006 8:05 pm

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Some shifts have been made in the lexicon including some common roots. As always, the latest information can be found in the online dictionary but some...
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Dec 18, 2005
11:58 pm

... Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:56 AM ... Fine, except for the Yangzi: if you really want a language without (phonemic) shibilants, it'd IMHO be better...
David Marjanovic
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Jan 4, 2006
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... (like ... introduce Proper nouns do not have to follow the same rules as general vocabulary so clusters are valid on these name. The geographic names used...
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Jan 4, 2006
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... OIC. ... I know, but my point was that most people in the world would have trouble learning it. ... Interesting. ... Ah, good....
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Jan 4, 2006
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... Yes, but the intention is to preserve the native name as much a possible. [n] can be an allophone of /N/ for example. Another option would be to put and...
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