Hi all,

There are three Scheme tutorials (on DSLs, web programming, and
embedded programming) as part of DEFUN 2009. If you can get to
Edinburgh between Sept 3 and Sept 5 I strongly encourage attendance --
these tutorials look really good. Full schedule is here:

   http://www.defun2009.info/blog/tutorial-schedule/

N.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Holger Durer <H.Duerer@...> wrote:

> I think there is quite a bit of overlap so this sounds like a good
> idea...

Agreed.

> If there is interest, how would one go about arranging such things?

Pick a date. We'll check that LShift is ok with it. Do some publicity.
Meeting happens.

N.

"Ewan Higgs" <ewan_higgs@...> wrote:
> The Scheme UK group will be meeting in the Blu bar in Hoxton Square at
> 7:30 pm this Wednesday, 3rd December.

Two day's notice (less than one when I got it) isn't enough time for
me to travel to the other side of the country... when are the next
meetings?  Or can I entice people over to Bristol?

Regards,
--
MJ Ray (slef)
Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small
worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
(Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237

I can't come.

btw you could use http://www.doodle.com/main.html to gather
confirmations.

s.
--- In schemeuk@yahoogroups.com, "Noel Welsh" <noelwelsh@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, the 3rd.  Anyone else up for it?  I don't want to talk to an
empty room :)
>
> N.
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Tony Garnock-Jones <tonyg@...> wrote:
> > Noel Welsh wrote:
> >> As it happens I'll be in London next Wednesday, so if there interest
> >> I'm happy to give a talk then.
> >
> > The 3rd? I think I'm out of town... not that that should stop
anyone :-)
> >
> > T
>

I'll probably arrive early (and leave relatively early), so if you get
there early look for the guy with the laptop.

N.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Ewan Higgs <ewan_higgs@...> wrote:
>
> The Scheme UK group will be meeting in the Blu bar in Hoxton Square at
> 7:30 pm this Wednesday, 3rd December.
>

Not sure if everyone saw the post (perhaps it only went to the other list?):

The Scheme UK group will be meeting in the Blu bar in Hoxton Square at
7:30 pm this Wednesday, 3rd December.

This is an opportunity to see old faces and for new ones to find out
what's going on in the UK Scheme community. We won't have an official
speaker, but people should be available to share ideas with.

Bluu bar is the one we normally head to after a meeting and we will
probably be downstairs.




N.

The Scheme UK group will be meeting in the Blu bar in Hoxton Square at
7:30 pm this Wednesday, 3rd December.

This is an opportunity to see old faces and for new ones to find out
what's going on in the UK Scheme community. We won't have an official
speaker, but people should be available to share ideas with.

Bluu bar is the one we normally head to after a meeting and we will
probably be downstairs.

-Ewan

Map:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=bluu+bar,+london&sll=51.52773\
,-0.076389&sspn=0.008704,0.034118&ie=UTF8&ll=51.52794,-0.081008&spn=0.001088,0.0\
04265&t=h&z=18&iwloc=H

Yes, the 3rd.  Anyone else up for it?  I don't want to talk to an empty room :)

N.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Tony Garnock-Jones <tonyg@...> wrote:
> Noel Welsh wrote:
>> As it happens I'll be in London next Wednesday, so if there interest
>> I'm happy to give a talk then.
>
> The 3rd? I think I'm out of town... not that that should stop anyone :-)
>
> T

Noel Welsh wrote:
> As it happens I'll be in London next Wednesday, so if there interest
> I'm happy to give a talk then.

The 3rd? I think I'm out of town... not that that should stop anyone :-)

T

I haven't, but that doesn't really matter -- I'll just choose one.

As it happens I'll be in London next Wednesday, so if there interest
I'm happy to give a talk then.  I won't have time to prepare technical
material, so I think I'll talk about stuff Untyped might like to do in
the future leveraging the power of PLT Scheme.

N.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Ewan Higgs <ewan_higgs@...> wrote:
> Hi Noel,
>
> Have you gotten any feedback on these topics from anyone but me?
>
> I'm no longer working 12 hour days so I'm definitely interested in starting
> something back up. Obviously a lot of people travel in December, but if we
> put the feelers out soon we may be able to shoot for a pre-Xmas meeting.
> Otherwise, we could try for January.
>
> Let me know what you think.

Hi,

FYI

http://upcoming.yahoo.com/group/4654/ - is for upcoming events.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/schemeuk/ - [this list[2]] is easy
to miss if you do an internet search for schemeuk.

http://wiki.alu.org/SchemeUK turned up in searches, and was empty, but
now at least links to...

http://schematics.sourceforge.net/scheme-london/ - is the easiest to
find [1], and referers to this list...

schemeuk-request@... - send to this list to subscribe

Cheers,

Stephen

--

PS
[1] http://www.schemers.org/ also points to the schematics site.

[2] you don't need a yahoo account to subscribe to this
list;Subscribe:  schemeuk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

>  - experiences using Scheme in commercial web app development
>  - introductory web app dev in PLT Scheme
>  - Scheme workflow (sake, schemeunit)
>  - Objective-C interface (preliminary stuff)
>  - Expansion-time units (a fairly compact example of macrology)
>  - Random thoughts on Dalvik (Google Android)
>  - Random thoughts on Typed Scheme
>
> N.
>

These are all interesting topics for me (except Google Android since
I'm not into phones). Do you have a preference? If so, we can start
setting up a meeting time.

Hi,

there is another active schemeuk mailing list

Subscription: email schemeuk-request@...

It's probably worth sending the next meeting announcement to both lists.

s.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Ewan Higgs <ewan_higgs@...> wrote:
> Does anyone else have a talk? So far we have two exciting talks
> waiting to be scheduled:

Yes, I can talk about some random crap.  Stuff that comes to mind:

  - experiences using Scheme in commercial web app development
  - introductory web app dev in PLT Scheme
  - Scheme workflow (sake, schemeunit)
  - Objective-C interface (preliminary stuff)
  - Expansion-time units (a fairly compact example of macrology)
  - Random thoughts on Dalvik (Google Android)
  - Random thoughts on Typed Scheme

N.

My bad.  It's on the todo list.

N.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle
<stephen@...> wrote:
> http://schematics.sourceforge.net/scheme-uk/

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle
<stephen@...> wrote:
> Why not post to the old list and invite them to join the new one.

I did post to the old list.  I don't know if the post went through, as
I didn't see it in either of the accounts with which I'm subscribed.
I've had problems in the past so perhaps others saw the message.

N.

--- In schemeuk@yahoogroups.com, "NoelWelsh" <noelwelsh@...> wrote:
>
> --- In schemeuk@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brooksby <rb@> wrote:
> >
> > On 2008-10-18, at 16:45, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > > I think they should enter themselves. Subscribing people to a list
> > > without asking seems wrong.
> > >
> > But if you don't, aren't they getting unsubscribed without asking
them?
>
> Heh.  Good argument.  I think we should carry them over, if we can.
>
> N.
>

Why not post to the old list and invite them to join the new one.


(I can't join the old one for some reason - it is completely
unresponsive to my emails)

Cheers,

Stephen

--- In schemeuk@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brooksby <rb@...> wrote:
>
> On 2008-10-18, at 16:45, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > I think they should enter themselves. Subscribing people to a list
> > without asking seems wrong.
> >
> But if you don't, aren't they getting unsubscribed without asking them?

Heh.  Good argument.  I think we should carry them over, if we can.

N.

On 2008-10-18, at 16:45, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > Can I input the previous list's membership details, by the way?
>
> I think they should enter themselves. Subscribing people to a list
> without asking seems wrong.
>
But if you don't, aren't they getting unsubscribed without asking them?

http://schematics.sourceforge.net/scheme-uk/

> understand why either of those are strong reasons to abandon hosting
> the list on PLT-Scheme.

Was it really? can you tell me more about the old list?

I think it was decided informally at the last scheme uk meeting. Sorry
I can't remember the reasons.

> Can I input the previous list's membership details, by the way?

I think they should enter themselves. Subscribing people to a list
without asking seems wrong.

this page still has the old list;
http://schematics.sourceforge.net/scheme-uk/

Cheers,

Stephen

"Noel Welsh" <noelwelsh@...> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, MJ Ray <mjr@...> wrote:
> > Why the mailing list hijack? Don't people want to be hosted on
> > PLT Scheme free software any more? You'd prefer to go to proprietary
> > Python code and give all your details to the uber-spammers and
> > government snitches at Yahoo?
>
> With the Yahoo service we can publish upcoming events via RSS, and
> more easily manage the mailing list (there are multiple people with
> admin rights, for instance).

Where's the upcoming events RSS and does it require Yahoo!
registration or is it usable by http://www.scheme.dk/planet/ ?

I'm pretty sure events RSS doesn't have much to do with the list
hosting and TTBOMK no-one asked for admin rights, so i don't
understand why either of those are strong reasons to abandon hosting
the list on PLT-Scheme.

Can I input the previous list's membership details, by the way?
If this is actually consensus rather than the hijack it appears, it
would be nice to carry subscribers over.

Regards,
--
MJ Ray (slef)
Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small
worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
(Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237
h

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, MJ Ray <mjr@...> wrote:
> Why the mailing list hijack? Don't people want to be hosted on
> PLT Scheme free software any more? You'd prefer to go to proprietary
> Python code and give all your details to the uber-spammers and
> government snitches at Yahoo?

With the Yahoo service we can publish upcoming events via RSS, and
more easily manage the mailing list (there are multiple people with
admin rights, for instance).

N.

--- In schemeuk@yahoogroups.com, "Ewan Higgs" <ewan_higgs@...> wrote:
>
> Here's an update on the progress of organizing lightning talks:
>
> I have three people with interesting topics and I'm waiting on an
> abstracts from some of them. Once I get these and we agree on a date
> for the talk, I'll send out an email announcing the talk.
>

On from this previous update: Tom Munro was going to present on
genetic programming in Scheme. But his wife recently gave birth so
he's been a bit busy to organize notes for a talk.

Does anyone else have a talk? So far we have two exciting talks
waiting to be scheduled:

Kathy Gray on Metaparsers
Abstract:
-------------
Modular parsers simplify the development of grammars for embedded
languages, experimental language additions, and other custom language
implementations. As with modular programs, grammar specifications can
be parameterized and combined to form different language
specifications in differing circumstances. Existing modular parsers
contain restrictions on the depth and level of parameterization,
limiting the flexibility. By combining combinator-style parsers and
higher-order components, grammar specifications can be more flexible
and simple than those made with existing modular parser specifications.

I present a Scheme library that combines PLT Units, parser
combinators, and macros to provide flexible modular parser
definitions. I illustrate this flexibility with multiple Java parsers
built from shared grammar specification, containing extensions and
restrictions of the language.
-------------

Tony Garnock-Jones on diff and diff3
Abstract:
-------------
Tony will talk for 10 minutes or so on how easy and profitable it is
to implement diff, diff3, and distributed version control in
high-level languages, with a focus on synchronisation of TiddlyWiki
instances. Anadditional 5 minutes may be devoted to describing his
Scheme-based OMeta implementation; and finally, some discussion of
horrible abuses of HTTP may occur at the pub after the main meeting.
-------------

I had a talk on partial evaluation on the horizon, but my prototype
doesn't yield any useful results yet so I'd prefer not to present that
just yet.

OK, so it seems that schemeuk@yahoogroups doesn't accept emails unless
you register with Yahoo! (or you impersonate someone that has).
As you may know, I am/was hosting the schemeuk list at towers.org.uk,
so when the Yahoo group was mentioned there, I asked:-

Why the mailing list hijack?  Don't people want to be hosted on
PLT Scheme free software any more?  You'd prefer to go to proprietary
Python code and give all your details to the uber-spammers and
government snitches at Yahoo?

Disappointed,
--
MJ Ray (slef)
Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small
worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
(Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237

Hi all,

At ICFP 2007 the Haskell guys organised a "Hackathon":

   http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Hac_2007_II

"It is a coding festival, focusing on producing and improving Haskell
libraries, tools and infrastructure."

I wonder if the same, or similar, could be organised for (PLT) Scheme
at ICFP 2009, which will be in Edinburgh?  There are two issues here:

1. Are there enough people interested? (I think about 10 would be
enough, 20 would be great)  If you're interested, let me know.

2. Would it be worthwhile to run tutorial sessions?  I get the
impression many people don't know how to develop efficiently using PLT
Scheme.  E.g. how to use PLaneT development links, how to package code
for release, how to test, how to use Scribble.  Stuff like Typed
Scheme would also be worth presenting tutorials on.  If you'd be
interested in tutorials, please let me know what kind.

A quick note for Scheme UK people:  Ewan Higgs has revived Scheme UK.
A new Yahoo group has been started.  Please sign up at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/schemeuk/ if you have not done so
already.

Cheers,
Noel

Noel Welsh wrote:
> I think there is value in having regular meetings regardless of
> arranged speakers -- just call them social meetings and choose a pub.
> What do the rest of you think?

I agree; lightning talks can be on-the-spot and need little in the way
of preparation or advertisement.

Tony

Ewan Higgs wrote:
> the next meeting in about two weeks (to give people enough time to
> fit it in their calendar and buy train tickets far enough in
> advance).

I'm out of the country until the 7th Oct, BTW.

T