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Re: How do search committees view candidates with families?

Hi Melissa,

Wow - that is quite a story. I don't have any expertise in the
matter, but using that as a reason not to hire you and telling you
that was the reason seems unethical at best and illegal at worst. It
seems especially unfair as the job you were applying for most likely
won't start until Fall 2009 when your child will be considerably older
and less dependent upon your time. Her needs at 18 months shouldn't
be considered to reflect her needs 9 months from now.

I just had the complete opposite experience with a really positive
interview at a very large, public, research university. My son is
still nursing and I also didn't want to go the entire day plus out to
dinner without giving him a chance to nurse. I asked the search
committee if my husband could bring him to campus in the mid-afternoon
for a half hour nursing break and they gave me a 45 minute break and
they made sure the dinner was early so I could get back to the hotel
at a reasonable time. They also put me in a hotel right across from
the university so my husband could easily walk over. They made every
effort to accommodate my family and me and I was extremely impressed.
There was another young mother on the search committee and that may
have helped my situation. Finally, I have been offered the position,
so I know that my nursing break was not viewed negatively. Or, if it
was, it was not enough to dissuade the committee from offering me the
job.

All that said, I was nervous about asking for the time because I
didn't want to appear "weak" or whatever the misconception of mothers
is, but I figured that if they weren't willing to give me a half hour
nursing break, then I wouldn't want to work there. Small consolation
when it seems that was the reason that you didn't get offered the job.

All I can say is that I really hope that your story is the exception
and that search committees and departments are realizing the
importance and positive impact that a candidate's happy family life
can have on their job performance. I really hope we are at a tipping
point or beyond.

I'd love to hear others' experiences with this to find out which of
our experiences was the exception.

Best and Happy New Year to all,
Carolyn


--- In scienceandfamilies@yahoogroups.com, "melissalucash"
<mslucash@...> wrote:
>
> I had a negative experience with an academic interview just last month
> and want to get advice on how to prevent this problem in the future.
>
> Knowing my interview would be about 13 hours long, I asked the search
> committee for 2 half-hour breaks to "spend time with my young
> daughter". I didn't feel like my 18 month old daughter would be okay
> without seeing me for 13 hours straight.
>
> Needless to say I didn't get the job. They told me that my desire to
> spend time with my family on my interview day indicated that I wasn't
> interested in the job.
>
> What should I do in the future? Should I forgo breaks and hope my
> daughter will be okay? Should I ask for breaks and not give a reason?
> I can't completely hide the fact that I have a family because I took
> time off after completing my Ph.D. to have my daughter.
>
> Thanks for publicizing this group in your article Sara!
>





Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:11 pm

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Hi science and families group! I am starting my job search and curious about others' experience with search committees knowing that a candidate has a young...
carolynkurle
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Sep 7, 2007
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There is no reason to discuss this topic with hiring committees before an offer has been made. Hiring committees differ, but none should be taking family...
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Hello Carolyn, I am currently on a search committee and will be happy to share my experience with this as (and if!) it arises. BUT as you point out the issue ...
Nicole Gross-Camp
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Sep 8, 2007
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You've gotten some great advice already. There are family-friendly institutions out there -- I was 8 months pregnant when I interviewed for my current job!...
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I feel compelled to join this group, as my labmates and I have been having these types of discussions for years! I, too, am interested in the response to this...
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Sep 10, 2007
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I'm in the thick of job search right now and just did one interview and my approach is to be very up front about having a family and including a photo of them...
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Nov 5, 2008
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I appreciate hearing about your experiences. Not having had the experience of a job interview (yet), I suppose that I did not really know what to expect....
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Hello Ryan, I never hid my family during my two job interviews (and I was offered both so I'm pretty sure it wasn't held against me). For the second interview,...
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I had a negative experience with an academic interview just last month and want to get advice on how to prevent this problem in the future. Knowing my...
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Hi Melissa, Wow - that is quite a story. I don't have any expertise in the matter, but using that as a reason not to hire you and telling you that was the...
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Hello Melissa. First, let me congratulate you for listening to your maternal instinct and putting the well being of your daughter first! I am sorry to hear...
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Hello, I saw this message last week and meant to respond with my experience but time got away from me. I am finishing my postdoc and I have a 17month old...
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