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RE: [scm-patterns] Looking for opinions on SCM best practices

Even better in many ways is Brad Streamed lines web pages. Does and
excellent job of not only laying out branching idioms but goes into the
trade off and situations that lead to the need for many of the idioms.

I still have emotional scars from working with a team using VSS as after
months of working on changing the culture to try branching we learned
that branching broke the projects themselves since the project file also
stored VSS info and had to be hand edited to fix!

As a compromise I came up with a system whereby we used a floating label
to indicate that code was ready for integration and did scheduled builds
off of that label. If successful, apply another label to indicate last
good build.

In this way it is a simulated branch and can help to build a
relationship with the developers and get your foot in the door as far as
winning their heart and minds. It also puts you in a position to
identify milestones and baselines and only branching as needed for OM
work. I'm not saying it is the best solution on merit alone but your
battle is more than a technical one.


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On Behalf Of Will Sargent
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:54 PM
To: scm-patterns@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scm-patterns] Looking for opinions on SCM best practices

> I'm working on a project in which SCM is mostly limited to source
> code access control using MS SourceSafe. My manager (in case he reads
> this) is great at managing people, but he doesn't have a technical
> (software engineering) background so when arguments flare up, he
> doesn't necessarily know who is right.

Your best bet is to get some books. If you have "Software Configuration
Management Patterns" then that goes a long way to talking about good
practices. You could also try Pragmatic Source Control, and I believe
there's some information on wikipedia as well.
If you put together a presentation using the books as reference, that
should go a long way to convincing your manager.

The practices you're talking about are fairly well established, but
because they're so well established, people don't tend to talk about
them all that much.


Will.



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Hi all, I'm working on a project in which SCM is mostly limited to source code access control using MS SourceSafe. My manager (in case he reads this) is great...
Chris Judge
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I'm sure others will have better replies, but here is my take on what ... Managing programmers with all different sorts of personalities is a key aspect of...
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... I'm curious about how the "agile developer" remark came about. The agile organizations I have worked in (and run) have had some of the best SCM practices...
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... Yeah, I'll back off on that one and clarify what I meant to say. I agree that true agile development is a great thing. I love the new generation of tools...
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Thanks to all for the comments... cj ... Chris Judge "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a...
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... Your best bet is to get some books. If you have "Software Configuration Management Patterns" then that goes a long way to talking about good practices....
Will Sargent
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Feb 1, 2008
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Even better in many ways is Brad Streamed lines web pages. Does and excellent job of not only laying out branching idioms but goes into the trade off and...
Yanko, Curtis
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Feb 1, 2008
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Chris, I know your pain. I have worked several places that tried to do things the way you indicate and as someone who is quality conscious, has risk aversion,...
Robert Smith
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Feb 1, 2008
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One other resource is CMCrossroads.com - lots of good articles and helpful people in the forums - newsletters and things you can email your manager. But as...
Robert Cowham
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Feb 6, 2008
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One other thing on stored procedures etc, some good pointers in article referenced here: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001050.html...
Robert Cowham
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Hi All Is anyone interested in doing a presentation at the joint BCS and itSMF Conference in July? Jointly run by the BCS CMSG and the IT Service Management...
Robert Cowham
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Feb 12, 2008
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Chris, All the things you mentioned are the right things to do. But if you cannot reason with the powerful developer (not agile), and your manager cannot...
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