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What are people's thoughts on how to treat IDE configuration files, as
compared to build script files in terms of sharing and version
management?

Here's a concrete example to motivate the discussion:
- A team is using Maven as their primary build tool.
- Developers on the team as using various IDE, say IDEA, and Eclipse.
(The example is Java centric, but comments from those not in the Java
world would be helpful too :) )

Should IDE project files be treated as primary artifacts, version
controlled and shared, or are they derived artifacts?
Some of the discussion points that come up are:
- It is possible to generate Eclipse and Idea files from Maven POMS.
And Both IDEs have the ability to keep their project files in synch
with the Maven POM files, so all dependency information can be stored
in the Maven Build.
- The maven build is the build of record.
- The IDEs can provide for enhanced warnings and errors for coding style issues.
- It is possible to add support for errors and warnings as part of the build.

How do your projects treat IDE files? Do you version them like build
scripts and treat IDE warnings and errors the same way you treat
"Build" warnings and errors?

(I have some thoughts, but would like to not say too much until there
is a discussion so as not to bias anyone :)) )

Steve
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What are people's thoughts on how to treat IDE configuration files, as compared to build script files in terms of sharing and version management? Here's a...
Steve Berczuk
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Hello Steve, I avoid versioning anything (such as Eclipse project and classpath files) that can be generated from an authoritative source. IDE meta-files...
Sean Dockery
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Jan 3, 2009
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central project stuff should be managed by M2 only. Artifacts and dependencies should be independent on special IDEs. I do not like settings which cannot be...
Michael Hüttermann
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Jan 4, 2009
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At the risk of pointing out the obvious, IDE configs are not just about storing build settings. They are frequently ways to save developer hours. Even if a...
Austin Hastings
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Jan 6, 2009
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But then you would keep that in an SOE DSL, not a Product CMDB. In my experience it really does need to be a complete SOE (e.g. correct version of libraries...
Alec Clews
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Jan 7, 2009
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Please tell e no one is 'building' with IDE's ========== Curtis Yanko Application & Developer Infrastructure Services Source->Build->Deploy W: 860.702.9059 M:...
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... Not me! But sometimes the developers insist that the SCM team manage some of their derived IDE files and IDE config files -- They point I was trying to...
Alec Clews
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Jan 7, 2009
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... I agree with this. To me, it's the bigger CM issue of 'levels of control' as opposed to the core CM issue of 'version control'. I group the SOE into...
Laurette Hamlin
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Jan 7, 2009
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I agree that productivity is important. I'm still wondering if having tools to get from the pom to the IDE projects isn't a better approach though. The things...
Steve Berczuk
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Jan 10, 2009
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a quick hack that i've used in the past: have /users/<username>/eclipse directories and have folks store their own stuff there that they needed and symlink...
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Thank to everyone for comments. My thought was that the IDE configs were secondary, and things that should not be versioned at all. It sounds like a good...
Steve Berczuk
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