We are in the process of discussing subsystem development in parallel projects. Each subsystem has its own release cycle and a system (or product) products...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 7:29 am
... These were originally written up by Robert Martin in 1996-1997 as part of a series of articles in "The C++ Report". See the ObjectMentor webpage for their...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 7:39 am
... I would first look at tried and true principles such as "separate interface from implementation"; and (you guessed it) the "Interface Segregation Principle"...
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Sten Rosendahl
sten_rosendahl
Mar 23, 2004 9:49 am
... Over the years, I've seen this problem being solved in a number of different ways depending of both available technology and methodology: In a legacy...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 23, 2004 4:24 pm
... It was a question, not an assertion. I certainly did not mean to put words in your mouth. ... I would leave the decision of whether or not the task...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 23, 2004 4:55 pm
Hi Frank, I think it's hard to answer your question in isolation. It's too easy to make a sweeping statement that might not apply in your circumstances. But...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 6:47 pm
... Hmmn - the elaboration of the particular kinds of dependencies at play (context versus content) and different strategies and their trade-offs, are...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 6:59 pm
... I would leave the reality of whether it was a good division of work to be indicated more clearly by feedback as the work was actually taking place,...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 23, 2004 8:29 pm
... I disagreed that there was any tradeoff involved, but I assumed that your position was based on the particular operation of some tools so I figured there...
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Austin Hastings
Austin_Hastings
Mar 23, 2004 9:47 pm
Frank, The description in your first paragraph matches exactly the component based develoment mode. Each subsystem is an independent product, released on its ...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 10:52 pm
... Do you see now that you are indeed making a tradeoff for WHERE you want to push the complexity to, and using your assessment of how well your tool handles...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 23, 2004 11:09 pm
... Do you see those two options as driving the communication/integration patterns used for releasing and coordinating, or vice-versa? Issues of "ownership"...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 12:14 am
... Actually I think it is as simple as it sounds, and I don't recall pointing out that it was ambiguous. I do recall clarifying since there seemed to be some...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 24, 2004 12:44 am
... It's not evident without making any assumptions about the tool being used. It is warranted to have to clarify what the meaning is since it can mean...
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Hager, Sean
seanhagerx
Mar 24, 2004 1:56 am
I think this stopped being a "discussion" of ideas several replies ago and has since been more of a debate/defense promoting one position as "absolute truth"...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 4:37 am
... What is wrong with holding a particular position and then debating/defending it? Are we not allowed to disagree in this forum? ... I really don't...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 4:40 am
... I don't view it as a tradeoff when a tool does what it ought to do, even if it took time to get it to do it. E.g., I don't consider it a tradeoff when a...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 4:46 am
... <snip> Do you think there is an inherent ambiguity or just ambiguities caused from using certain tools? Before I thought you thought there was an inherent...
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David Baird
davidlbaird
Mar 24, 2004 1:15 pm
And now for something completely different... I am trying to formulate an internal presentation on refactoring, that great "new" coding strategy from the XP...
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Hager, Sean
seanhagerx
Mar 24, 2004 2:14 pm
On another note, you need to have test driven development in place before you try to encourage everyone to constantly refactor. Well, let me clarify that a...
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only1jpl
Mar 24, 2004 4:21 pm
Like so many before me... Hi, I'm John Letourneau. I work in the Bell Labs division of Lucent Technologies. I'm 40 something with 24 years at the Labs. I've ...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 24, 2004 4:32 pm
... "ought to do" is subjective, and not absolute. ... "right" is also subjective in the above. There is no absolute "right" truth/way. It's all about context...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 5:03 pm
Hi David, ... I too have been refactoring as long as I've been programming, which was long before XP came out (btw, even though I see some good practices in ...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 24, 2004 5:31 pm
... I think there is at least one inherent ambiguity. I recommend the recent "branching several times a day" thread on the subversion users list to see several...
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Shayne Wissler
thales000
Mar 24, 2004 6:32 pm
... Brad, I don't think we're going to get anywhere by you trying to give me philosophy lessons. Suffice it to say that there are many different philosophies....
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 24, 2004 7:06 pm
... Yes. It is interesting. We go to all this effort with things like encapsulation and abstraction and information hiding to help ensure that changes will...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 24, 2004 7:07 pm
... Disagree - yes. Constructively. If I don't make room for those other ideas to co-exist, if I persistently maintain the other must always be wrong in order ...
Hi, Just some fragments... Subject is very interesting, but the threat is not anymore... ... things right [...] ... Could someone summarize the different...
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Brad Appleton
bradapp1
Mar 25, 2004 12:18 am
... BACKGROUND ========== The scenario was where there are two developers each working on their own separate task, and one or both of them need/want to use...
