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RE: [scriptingenabled] Re: Schedule is now live!

As I see it WAI ARIA is the solution not the problem.
Day one of scriptingenabled is about identifying the barriers and day two is a
chance to build some barrier free solutions. If the right people are there and
it's appropriate for the solution to be developed then hopefully we'll see ARIA
being leveraged.


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-----Original Message-----
From: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Damon Rose
Sent: 02 September 2008 13:50
To: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scriptingenabled] Re: Schedule is now live!

The thing about accessibility with screenreaders is that often we have to look
backwards for a solution. i.e. dwelling on older technology and allowing
screenreader manufacturers to stagnate, sit pretty, and not significantly update
their product.

If WAI-aria buys into newer technology and allows for a path forward rather than
backward, then that's all good and needs encouragement rather than going back
for older solutions. It may solve the immediate access problem but not future
ones.

...Damon


-----Original Message-----
From: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of icantdom
Sent: 02 September 2008 13:14
To: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scriptingenabled] Re: Schedule is now live!

--- In scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Leventhal <aaron@...>
wrote:
>
> What about WAI-ARIA? I don't see it mentioned in the topics.
>
> It seems to me that WAI-ARIA is fundamental to the whole effort of
> making script accessible.
>
> - Aaron
>

This is a fact finding day, not a technology showcase. I agree that WAI-ARIA is
the way forward, but I disagree that it is fundamental to making script
accessible. Easy YouTube doesn't use WAI-ARIA yet and works fine with screen
readers.

I deliberately chose not to have technical speakers as I want to confront the
hackers in the audience with the human issues to find solutions for, not a
purely technical challenge. The screen reader presentation however will show
some WAI-ARIA solutions we use in Yahoo.

The US installment of Scripting Enabled will be more technical, I suppose.

cheers
Chris



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I am proud to announce "the schedule for the two days of scripting enabled":/schedule/ and also that "Jeroen Wijering":http://www.jeroenwijering.com/ will be...
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What about WAI-ARIA? I don't see it mentioned in the topics. It seems to me that WAI-ARIA is fundamental to the whole effort of making script accessible. -...
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... This is a fact finding day, not a technology showcase. I agree that WAI-ARIA is the way forward, but I disagree that it is fundamental to making script...
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The thing about accessibility with screenreaders is that often we have to look backwards for a solution. i.e. dwelling on older technology and allowing...
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... Keep in mind that WAI-ARIA makes it a lot easier for us to solve future problems. It's not just a solution for current problems, but provides a more...
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As I see it WAI ARIA is the solution not the problem. Day one of scriptingenabled is about identifying the barriers and day two is a chance to build some...
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Still, I'd change the emphasis. Why not spend the majority of time on how to actually solve problems now, rather than just saying what the problems are? So...
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Aaron, Isn't that the topic of the second day? (although, agreed, the crowds will be smaller) ... -- Stéphane Deschamps perso: http://www.nota-bene.org/ org:...
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Well you know what I think :) I think we need to start showing the big crowd how to solve problems now. It can be directly with WAI-ARIA or by using...
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Maybe the blog will show solutons afterwards. Chris ? ... -- Stéphane Deschamps perso: http://www.nota-bene.org/ org: http://www.pompage.net/...
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... My talk at this year's @media Ajax is about Scripting Enabled, so there I will show it to the JavaScript crowd, much more suitable. Any examples and input...
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... Well, how exactly is WAI-ARIA helping the needs of people with learning disabilities or the hard of hearing? Day one is about opening our horizons as...
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