The thing about accessibility with screenreaders is that often we have
to look backwards for a solution. i.e. dwelling on older technology and
allowing screenreader manufacturers to stagnate, sit pretty, and not
significantly update their product.

If WAI-aria buys into newer technology and allows for a path forward
rather than backward, then that's all good and needs encouragement
rather than going back for older solutions. It may solve the immediate
access problem but not future ones.

...Damon


-----Original Message-----
From: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of icantdom
Sent: 02 September 2008 13:14
To: scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scriptingenabled] Re: Schedule is now live!

--- In scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Leventhal <aaron@...>
wrote:
>
> What about WAI-ARIA? I don't see it mentioned in the topics.
>
> It seems to me that WAI-ARIA is fundamental to the whole effort of
> making script accessible.
>
> - Aaron
>

This is a fact finding day, not a technology showcase. I agree that
WAI-ARIA is the way forward, but I disagree that it is fundamental to
making script accessible. Easy YouTube doesn't use WAI-ARIA yet and
works fine with screen readers.

I deliberately chose not to have technical speakers as I want to
confront the hackers in the audience with the human issues to find
solutions for, not a purely technical challenge. The screen reader
presentation however will show some WAI-ARIA solutions we use in Yahoo.

The US installment of Scripting Enabled will be more technical, I
suppose.

cheers
Chris



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--- In scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Leventhal <aaron@...>
wrote:
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> What about WAI-ARIA? I don't see it mentioned in the topics.
>
> It seems to me that WAI-ARIA is fundamental to the whole effort of
> making script accessible.
>
> - Aaron
>

This is a fact finding day, not a technology showcase. I agree that
WAI-ARIA is the way forward, but I disagree that it is fundamental to
making script accessible. Easy YouTube doesn't use WAI-ARIA yet and
works fine with screen readers.

I deliberately chose not to have technical speakers as I want to
confront the hackers in the audience with the human issues to find
solutions for, not a purely technical challenge. The screen reader
presentation however will show some WAI-ARIA solutions we use in Yahoo.

The US installment of Scripting Enabled will be more technical, I suppose.

cheers
Chris

What about WAI-ARIA? I don't see it mentioned in the topics.

It seems to me that WAI-ARIA is fundamental to the whole effort of
making script accessible.

- Aaron

I am proud to announce "the schedule for the two days of scripting
enabled":/schedule/ and also that "Jeroen
Wijering":http://www.jeroenwijering.com/ will be coming over to
Scripting Enabled to get first-hand information about accessibility
and online video and implement it in his amazing JW player. The JW
player is the de-facto standard open source player for Flash video in
Web Sites and lately also got a Silverlight build.
I'll get Jeroen also to meet with the BBC and Yahoo's online video
divisions to see what can be done about accessibility of our systems.

Things are shaping up, and I am a-tingeling :)

The schedule:


Fact Finding Day (Friday, 19th of September)

Here's the preliminary schedule for the Fact Finding Day:

9.15 Welcome and Introductions
9.30 Taking Scripting Enabled further
10.00 Denise Stephens - Enabled By Design - Barriers faced by people
with changing conditions.
10.30 Coffee Break
11.00 Kath Moonan - AbilityNet - What barriers need removal?
12.00 Antonia Hyde - United Response - Learning disabilities and
online content
13.00 Lunch
14.00 Artur Ortega - Yahoo! and + Special Guest - Barriers for
Screenreaders and how JavaScript can help
15.00 Phil Teare - Textic - Dyslexia barriers and Masher Nations (a
possible solution)
16.00 End Panel
16.45 Planning Session for day two
17.00 Off to a pub
Hack Day (Saturday, 20th of September)

10.00 Meet
10.01 - 16.00 Hack, Hack, Hack
16.00 - 17.00 Present and plan follow-up
17.01 Off to a pub

This is looking like a great event, think there is tonnes to be said
about this issue, so will be glad to come along and help out.

Couple of things:

1) it's really hard to find this group (towards the bottom of the blog
home page) - could a link be chucked on the sidebar near the top of
the home page so it's obvious for people to sign up to?

2) has a common tag for blogging, delicious, flickr, youtube etc been
defined? I guess 'scriptingenabled' would do the job. I could throw
together a public aggregator using Pageflakes if it would be useful?
Not sure how accessible it will be tho' ;-)

Cheers

Dave

Thanks to my colleagues Stephan Douris and Nick Terry in Yahoo
Sunnyvale Scripting Enabled now also has a logo.

If you want to show your participation with pride, you can get the
embed code for badges in 120 pixels and 468 pixels here:
http://scriptingenabled.org/badges-link-to-us/

Things are forming, I am happy!

cheers
Chris

Morning,

         Over the course of a couple of emails with Chris Heilmann, we've been
looking at the idea of a talk on screen readers and magnifiers and their ability
to cope with different interfaces. The idea stemmed from the thought that it
would be good to give people the opportunity to experience some of these
interfaces with an access tech, first hand.

         Screen readers and magnifiers are of course just two of the many access
techs around and their users only two of many different user groups. With this
firmly in mind, I'd like to hear people's ideas on how we can use these two
technologies to provide a useful, possibly interactive and informative session
to give people an insight into one aspect of user experience. Thanks.

Léonie.

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I just set up the Event Wax sites for tickets and added more detailed
information about the venues for the 19th and 20th of September:

http://scriptingenabled.org/book-your-ticket/

Looking forward to all interested parties coming!

cheers
Chris

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>     On 7/2/08, icantdom <chris.heilmann@...
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>      > Just wondering if we need some branding so people can create badges
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>     I'd say 'yes you do' but as I'm a lousy logo creator don't ask me :)
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>     Ajax/trident as a logo?
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>
>     perhaps a recap on AJAX?
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>     http://www.in2greece.com/english/historymyth/mythology/names/ajax.htm
>     <http://www.in2greece.com/english/historymyth/mythology/names/ajax.htm>
>
>     Ajax
>
>     Warrior prince who was huge and strong, but slow in speech. His father
>     was king Telamon of Salamis. Ajax was considered the second greates
>     warrior after Achilles, and he was the one who carried the hero's dead
>     body back to the camp while Odysseus held the Trojans back.
>
>     Ajax fought well in the Trojan war, but when refused Achilles armous
>     after the hero's death, he swore to kill Agamemnon and Menelaus. He
>     was the struck by madness by the goddess Athena, who did not want this
>     to happen, and comitted suicide in the way that was to be the Roman
>     ideal : falling on his sword.
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>     In the kingdom of death he kept his grudge.
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>     --
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>     or
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>     Ajax the Lesser
>
>     Ruler of Locris and warrior in the Trojan War who comitted sacrilege
>     by dragging Cassandra out of the temple of Athena where she had sought
>     refuge. The goddess had Poseidon punish him by sending a storm and
>     sinking Ajax's ship. The warrior was strong enough to swim to a rock,
>     and clinging on to it he boasted that the sea could not drown him.
>     Poseidon was then so angered that he split the rock with his trident,
>     thus drowning Ajax.
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Hi

Just seen this blog post which might be of interest..
http://www.isolani.co.uk/blog/access/BarCampLondon2AccessibilityPanelThoughts

(I guess  this is a taster  of one direction of though:)

Ed

--

Regards

Ed Whyman   edwhyman@...

Hello,

my name's Simon, I work on bbc.co.uk, my speciality is flash and I'm
very interested in seeing how flash can be used to make the web more
accessible and usable instead of less.

S.

I am happy to announce that justgiving.com are happy to throw in some
sponsoring for the event. I spent an hour in their office today and we
had lots of overlapping ideas :)

chris

On 7/2/08, icantdom <chris.heilmann@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if we need some branding so people can create badges
>  and link to the site.

I'd say 'yes you do' but as I'm a lousy logo creator don't ask me :)

--
Stéphane Deschamps
perso: http://www.nota-bene.org/
org: http://www.pompage.net/

Just wondering if we need some branding so people can create badges
and link to the site.

My session at this year's @mediaAjax is about hackingn APIs and using
JavaScript to increase accessibility.

Scripting Enabled

The relationship of JavaScript and accessibility has never been a good
one. A lot of myths circulating around the use and capabilities of
assistive technology branded JavaScript as a bad technology and Ajax
as a total faux pas. This is changing as a lot of companies now open
their systems to developers with APIs that are Ajax and JavaScript
driven. This session will explain how some of these can be used to
make data available to users with disabilities that were blocked out
before. Accessibility is first and foremost about removing barriers
for users, regardless of ability. Using JavaScript and Ajax to work
around accessibility issues of rich media applications is one way of
doing that. It is like creating mash-ups to test out some APIs - only
that the benefit is much higher than just proving a point.

http://www.vivabit.com/atmediaAjax/sessions/#scripting

Hopefully this will get some hackers to stay longer and join us in
working out issues.

The schedule looks mighty impressive:
http://www.vivabit.com/atmediaAjax/schedule/

In other news, the first location did not work out, so I am not a
happy bunny on this front yet.

regards
Chris

Hi

As a blind computer user I am whole heartedly behind you in this great
project.

If you were at the Alexandra Palace mash up you may have met my son
Richard who was a member of the technical support supplied by multimap
(now part of Microsoft( and I hope that when I speak to him next, he
is in Copenhagen at some Microsoft developers jolly, I will pass on
your details to him.   Hopefully I can twist his arm to get you some
support from his team, I believe they have a bob or two.

Cheers

G

  From glorious Devon, England.

Hello, I'm Aaron Leventhal. I work for IBM and helped develop the
WAI-ARIA standard and implement it in Firefox.

I have also written several docs on WAI-ARIA, including a FAQ here:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/ARIA:_Accessible_Rich_Internet_Applications\
/Relationship_to_HTML_FAQ

My goal is to support community efforts to integrate accessibility into
the mainstream.

- Aaron

--- In scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com, "icantdom"
<chris.heilmann@...> wrote:
>
> Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
> some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
> and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?
>
> cheers
> Chris
>

Hi,

I'm David Owens. I work at TMG (http://www.tmg.co.uk) as a front-end
developer. We are involved in a number of ongoing projects with
various government departments at the moment. They (and we) are keen
to use more engaging media and content, but obviously have a firm
commitment to making these offerings usable by as many people as possible.

In particular we are working on a project involving a fairly complex
Google Maps interface. We're still looking at how this will work, but
will be happy to talk about it once it has moved along a bit more.

David
http://fineartdavid.com

Hi Chris,

I'm Laura Whitehead, a freelance web designer, and into accessibility.
  My work is mainly with the nonprofit sector, and as well as designing
for the web, I deliver training and consultancy too with accessibility
as a key thread.  The Social web is a growing part of what I am
involved in and events like this that can break down barriers to
inclusion in a practical way are of great interest.

Event wise, hoping to attend (currently based in Devon!) and take part.

Laura

http://laura.popokatea.co.uk (blog)
http://www.popokatea.co.uk

--- In scriptingenabled@yahoogroups.com, "Gez Lemon" <gez.lemon@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'm Gez Lemon (we've met a few times), and I work as an accessibility
> consultant for TPG. I'm hoping to attend the event with my colleagues
> Steve Faulkner and Hans Hillen (we need to arrange it through work),
> and we could help add WAI-ARIA.
>
> I love the examples you've put together, by the way - great work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gez
>
>
> 2008/6/26 icantdom <chris.heilmann@...>:
> > Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
> > some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
> > and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?
> >
> > cheers
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> _____________________________
> Supplement your vitamins
> http://juicystudio.com
>

2008/6/26 icantdom <chris.heilmann@...>:
> Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
> some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
> and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?

Hi, I'm Ann and I'm obsessed about accessibility.

I used to work as a Web Accessibility Consultant at RNIB, but now I'm
freelancing.

I'm happy to talk about stuff (I mostly concentrate on accessibility
from the user perspective and auditing/testing), but I'm also happy to
chip in and help with other stuff too if that's needed.

--
Ann
http://www.pixeldiva.co.uk

Hi I am Steve Faulkner i work at The Paciello Group (TPG) as technical
director (whatever that means). TPG is a web and software accessibility
consultancy.

I have been impressed with the stuff that Christian has been doing on
providing more accessible interfaces using various APIs. It has got me
and my friends and colleagues (Hans Hillen and Gez Lemon) thinking on
the subject.

We also have a great interest in promoting/using/developing solutions
using WAI-ARIA.

While we understand that ARIA is not mature enough in terms of UA
support to be solution on its own (in most circumstances), it can be
used to positive effect to enhance the accessibility of interfaces that
work now with the major UAs.

I envisage that we will work on providing examples of accessible access
to various APIs with ARIA enhancements incorporated.

2008/6/26 icantdom <chris.heilmann@...>:
> could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
> and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?

Hi, I'm Steve Lee a freelance developer/evangelist of Open Source
Assistive Technology and Accessibility. I have a number of small
projects and am involved in the Mozilla, GNOME, OATSsoft and
schooolforge communities.

I'm hoping to come along to learn, hack and meet folks.

--
Steve Lee
--
Open Source Assistive Technology Software
web: fullmeasure.co.uk
blog: eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog

Hi all,

I'm Stephane Deschamps and still owe Gez a beer from @media2005 :)

I'm an accessibility expert at Orange-France Telecom Group.

I could share experience on real-life, not-ARIA-yet examples how how
we tackle DOM-related accessibility issues like dropdown menus and
right-click menus for screen readers (our main focus is blind and very
ill-sighted users for the moment). (btw we can't go ARIA yet as we're
focused on the public at large, most of which still use a version of
IE).

-- stef

On 6/27/08, Gez Lemon <gez.lemon@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>  I'm Gez Lemon (we've met a few times), and I work as an accessibility
>  consultant for TPG. I'm hoping to attend the event with my colleagues
>  Steve Faulkner and Hans Hillen (we need to arrange it through work),
>  and we could help add WAI-ARIA.
>
>  I love the examples you've put together, by the way - great work.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Gez
>
>  2008/6/26 icantdom <chris.heilmann@...>:
>  > Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
>  > some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
>  > and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?
>  >
>  > cheers
>  > Chris
>  >
>  >
>
>  --
>  _____________________________
>  Supplement your vitamins
>  http://juicystudio.com
>



--
Stéphane Deschamps
perso: http://www.nota-bene.org/
org: http://www.pompage.net/

Hi Chris,

I'm Gez Lemon (we've met a few times), and I work as an accessibility
consultant for TPG. I'm hoping to attend the event with my colleagues
Steve Faulkner and Hans Hillen (we need to arrange it through work),
and we could help add WAI-ARIA.

I love the examples you've put together, by the way - great work.

Cheers,

Gez


2008/6/26 icantdom <chris.heilmann@...>:
> Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
> some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
> and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?
>
> cheers
> Chris
>
>



--
_____________________________
Supplement your vitamins
http://juicystudio.com

Great to see that more and more people sign up for this list. I know
some of you, but could we have a quick round-robin to see who is here
and what your involvement in the event/framework is likely to be?

cheers
Chris