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Re: [scrumdevelopment] New poll for scrumdevelopment

On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, at 7:20:47 PM, Joseph Snively wrote:

> I don't mind advertisements as long as I don't get more than one per week
(line in the sand).
> Those who want to advertise get in a queue and wait your turn. One per week
(not per person).
> Or those who want to advertise get together and make one massive advertisement
for your services
> per quarter. Just some thoughts...

The whole thing seems weird to me. N hundred dollars and a few days
later, voila! you're a Certified Scrummaster. I truly don't get it.

To me the whole thing seems like a pyramid scheme. (I mean that in
the nicest possible way, which I guess isn't very nice.) It's
Marketing. I sell my services, Ken and the other CSM trainers sell
theirs. One does that in any way that works, I guess.

But certified in what way? What's it all about (Alfie)? I wonder.

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Steering is more important than speed,
in driving and in software development.




Thu Nov 3, 2005 3:34 am

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I don't mind advertisements as long as I don't get more than one per week (line in the sand). Those who want to advertise get in a queue and wait your turn....
Joseph Snively
myv6altima Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
3:20 am

... The whole thing seems weird to me. N hundred dollars and a few days later, voila! you're a Certified Scrummaster. I truly don't get it. To me the whole...
Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
3:34 am

Hey Ron--How come it doesn't say "Certified ScrumMaster" in your signature? You're a CSM and not even "honorary." :) --Mike...
Mike Cohn
mikewcohn Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
3:37 am

... I don't like to brag? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com If you don't have the courage to say what you think, there isn't much use in thinking it, is there?...
Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
3:52 am

Ron: One of the realities in my life is when I have someone come up and tell me how they have been in agile teams and know that stuff - 'like XP' So, using ...
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
5:15 am

... What's the value of two days in med school. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself. (I am large, I...
Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
5:21 am

... tell me ... So, using ... was their ... a couple ... a member ... shot at it ... me are ... original ... of days. ... My boss is very interested in "using...
murdocj2000 Offline Send Email Nov 5, 2005
2:01 pm

Ron, I can't find the thread (rant ? ? ?) we did on this last year so here is what I recall as the end state of it. __________________ Scrum is do or not do....
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
2:59 pm

... Do they give "mastery"? I doubt it. They do introduce the foundations, a set of simple rituals within which a new way of producing software can arise. And...
Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
3:30 pm

... Visiting controlchaos, I find this disclaimer: /"...Scrum is a process described in books, literature, courses, and discussion groups, and as such is an...
Jeff Langr
jlangr Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
9:02 pm

So anything that is open source and common sense should not have a price tag on it? OK where do I get a free copy of your book on JAVA which is open source ...
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 7, 2005
12:37 am

Greetings Mike, A more comparable scenario would be if I insisted that people who read my book, and tried to teach others using similar techniques, had to be ...
Jeff Langr
jlangr Offline Send Email
Nov 7, 2005
2:56 pm

Jeff Langr's comments prompted me to wander around the archives in Yahoo and read Hmm. In many ways it is SSDD (Same Stuff, Different Day) but in other ways...
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2005
11:05 am

Claimer (as opposed to DISCLAIMER) Everything I mention here is in use and has had positive results. Michael F. Dwyer "Planning constantly peers into the...
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 7, 2005
12:44 am

... We can learn a lot by reading books, and we can learn a lot from a two-day course. But whatever we do now for a living, we probably didn't learn it by...
Ron Jeffries
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Nov 5, 2005
3:04 pm

Where? Michael F. Dwyer "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a solution may emerge." "A Plan is a complex situation, adapting...
Mike Dwyer
protraveler1 Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2005
3:11 pm

Joseph-- I try to avoid mentioning my classes other than when I first schedule it or perhaps as the deadline nears. What would you or others think about...
Mike Cohn
mikewcohn Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
3:35 am

... Hash: SHA1 ... I like that suggestion, particularly the suggested format that includes the location and the dates in the subject line. - -- Jim Hyslop ...
Jim Hyslop
jimhyslopca Offline Send Email
Nov 7, 2005
1:07 am

I responded "other" - I personally would prefer a monthly push with all dates that are 6 to 8 weeks out over the current constant trickle of not so "shameless...
Stefan Ahrensdorf
sahrensdorf Offline Send Email
Nov 3, 2005
4:12 am

You left out "None of the Above". BTW, we use ScrumWorks, from Danube Software. Bill House...
rhythmstar Offline Send Email Dec 14, 2006
5:16 am

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the scrumdevelopment group: Certified ScrumMasters: - Are you working as a salaried employee or a...
scrumdevelopment@yaho... Send Email Jul 13, 2006
8:26 pm

Maybe I missed a conversation here, but what is the reason for the poll? --Hubert On 13 Jul 2006 19:55:09 -0000, scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com ... -- All...
Hubert Smits
hubert_g_smits Offline Send Email
Jul 13, 2006
9:38 pm

... curiosity I would guess :) I do not see why there should need to be a reason (note I did not create it) -d -- Sent from gmail so do not trust this...
David H.
darianlanx Offline Send Email
Jul 13, 2006
10:02 pm

d yes, basic curiosity. ;-) results should be illuminating to seasoned as well as newly-minted CSMs... like me. j ... the poll? ... create it) ... accounts. ...
john_n_miller Offline Send Email Jul 14, 2006
10:15 pm

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the scrumdevelopment group: Which tool / software do you use to manage your Scrum projects? How is the...
scrumdevelopment@yaho... Send Email Dec 13, 2006
3:13 pm

It might be good to know which tools are used more heavily/frequently than others. For instance, I use Scrum for Team System when a client requires it, but I...
dnicolet99 Offline Send Email Dec 13, 2006
3:44 pm

... Oh yes, I would have liked to too, someone from Yahoo here to extend the voting system? Cheers Andreas...
Andreas Schliep
barc0815 Offline Send Email
Dec 13, 2006
4:37 pm

Howdy, ScrumWorks is missing from the list. I chose 'other' instead... (I prefer to use paper primarily, but have enjoyed ScrumWorks when a previous employer...
Justin T. Sampson
justin_t_sam... Offline Send Email
Dec 13, 2006
5:20 pm

... There are some other tools missing as well and without directed context the poll is probably producing none usable data imho :)...
David H
sebi13556 Offline Send Email
Dec 13, 2006
5:25 pm

... I'm glad you liked our tool almost as much as index cards! Remember we're a few cents cheaper than index cards, especially if you count the rubber band. ...
Michael James
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Dec 13, 2006
6:41 pm
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