... Yes. And sometime someone needs to know when something might be done, or whether some deadline can be made. The team, knowing why the curce looks the way...
... Assuming we are talking about a simple, linear trendline and not a weighted one that takes other burn down charts into account, the trendline is just a...
... My guess is that the trendline is the way to bet, if a line fits at all well. I'd consider the error bars if I were a fanatic. But the main reason to draw...
Victor, It seems to me that all of your comments apply to all measurements and metrics everywhere in every field. The many gauges on a race car (or the space...
... elaborate? ... David has done a nice job clarifying my point. I don't like metrics at the sprint task level at all, especially metrics that try to imply ...
Hi Dan, You're right! I don't like any metrics being performed at the sprint task level, especially one like this that tries to extrapolate whether a team...
Well said and I agree. More food for thought... We actually get a few side benefits from the Sprint burndown charts. One is that we think there is value in...
But in my experience, people want something more objective than their personal perspective on how they're doing. a trendline isn't perfect, but it's better...
Dan, Sounds like you're teams are doing quite well. I really like the no "partial credit" concept and it's great that you're identifying and associating...
... And still the team needs to know whether it is likely to make the sprint goal. Are you suggesting that the extrapolation won't typically help them? ... I'm...
... Yes, and if only to double-check their gut feel. In fact I'd argue that the true value is not in the trend line itself, but in the thinking and the...
Victor, Ilja, Deborah Hartmann and Robin Dymond have written an excellent paper on Agile Metrics - the best I have read, to date. It is pertinent to this...
... Ah, I didn't understand that "for them" part beforehand. I'm certainly not suggesting that someone outside the team should draw the trend line and tell the...
... Victor, most every gig I've had in the past two years has been helping teams who cannot get done, by the end of the sprint, everything they commit to at...
... Yes. I don't much care about sprint burndowns. I care a lot about backlog burndowns. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Steering is more important than...
... Well, that assumption was wrong, as I hope is already obvious from my other posts. I'm talking about a trend line that is drawn *by* the team. Where I ...
Hi Brad, I fully agree with what you wrote. In April this year, I presented a session at the ACCU conference in UK (www.accu.org/conference) about simplicity...
... Ron, I hope your question is rhetorical because clearly I can't answer something in a yahoo group posting that you've not been able to achieve in 2 years...
Hi all, I wrote a post on my blog some weeks ago and I received great feedbacks mainly from XPers and Retrospective facilitators. Now that I'm writing a second...
... There you go :) PS: website does not work yet, still waiting for domain transfer. -d -- Sent from gmail so do not trust this communication. Do not send me...
We have a client that has a significant development presence in India and is looking to transition them to agile. While we can provide primary training and...
... Which helped me finally nail down a question I've been trying to formulate. Our daily scrums have improved to the point where the team is communicating ...
... Well personally I think that is what you have a ScrumMaster for. Self organisation is great, but I do feel there should be something there to have a look...
I'm not sure that urgency and commitment are the issues. The problem is that the group is surprised by not meeting the goals of the sprint. Unfortunately,...
Hi Ronica, Great question. Here's my two cents. I rarely use task/hours burndown charts these days. I find them misleading. If a team makes good use of a...
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Hi Ronica It sounds like the team may be over confident in the amont of work they can complete in a sprint. The sprint goal needs to be cut back and the sprint...
Hi Ronica, Sounds like your developers don't realize what it means to be 'done' with a story. I run a brief discussion around 'the definition o f done' at the ...
... What would happen if your tasks were, oh, 1/5 the current size? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Improvement stops when we start believing that ideas...