He must have thought that the ProductOwner was always an actual customer, now when I think of it. I didn't get a clear picture of how they managed their...
Lately there have been a lot of claims that it is possible to do agile development and call it CMM-complaint or that is possible to do agile development and be...
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Eric Hodges
ehodges@...
Dec 6, 2001 12:30 am
I agree with most of what you say, but I can't help thinking of Edison. His greatest invention was a repeatable process for inventing things. Menlo Park has...
... Eric: Scrum and XP are identical in nature to Edison's invention process. They are repeatable but only at a high level, because they always break a...
Michael, "MB" == Mike Beedle wrote: MB> Lately there have been a lot of claims that it is possible to MB> do agile development and call it CMM-complaint or...
... Dave: Thanks for the info. This is useful because even though something like XP stories may overlap in its goals with something like the Requirements...
... To understand the past, present and future of software development? The manufacturing-like paradigm imposed into software we mostly lived for the last 30...
Michael, "MB" == Mike Beedle wrote: ... MB> To understand the past, present and future of MB> software development? I'd better rephrase my question: "Why do...
... Andrey: I think I am on the same side you are: I am trying to convince others to do something more agile i.e. I don't believe the CMM should be used. -...
Michael, "MB" == Mike Beedle wrote: MB> Andrey: MB> I think I am on the same side you are: MB> I am trying to convince others to do something more agile i.e. I...
... Sure. I am using: "The Capability Maturity Model - guidelines for improving the software process", SEI, Addison and Wesley, 1995. as a reference. Most of...
... I don't see teams making decisions between CMM and XP/Agile. I have encountered a few, but they were still in the very early learning stages about methods...
... Lowell: There is only one minor problem. True agile teams will rely on cycles of inspection, adaptation and self-organization but to conform to the CMM...
... I agree that teams that have the constraint of CMM will have a very difficult, if not impossible, time reaching what you describe as "true agile." But...
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Laurent Bossavit
morendil@...
Dec 6, 2001 10:25 pm
... Playing Devil's advocate for a moment : I'm not sure I see where the dichotomy comes from. Is it not possible to be agile and still promote reuse, ...
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vze2k2j6@...
Dec 7, 2001 2:45 am
Agile and Scrum principles work for any type of new development....
... Lowell: I agree with the notion you explain above. _In practice_ there is a spectrum -- I have always thought of software methods that way. In fact, Ken...
... Laurent: I think I mean something different. By "software as NEW product" I mean software that gets _used_ differently. For example. We do a lot of...
... Dale: Ok, I'll play along. Look at page 223 of the reference above, coming from the "Integrated Software Management" KPA: "Goal 1. The project's defined...
... Jonas: From the XBreed perspective, I can tell you that I am planning to spend more time documenting it in the next year because I have several clients...
Mike, Thanks for you answers! ... I'm pleased to hear that! Good luck! ... Nice! Is XPatScrum/Xbreed the only successful attempt to scale XP up? ... Ok, I can...
Mike, I am in agreement with you that Software Development will benefit most from applying New Product Development paradigms to it. However, I don't agree that...
Ken, I am delighted to hear that your next book will focus on driving software development based on business value. I thought I'd post a few observations on...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Dec 9, 2001 1:49 am
Self-organization arising from inspection is right on. Another disconnect with CMM is that CMM desires to increase the level of definition, through increasing...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Dec 9, 2001 1:50 am
"agile" isn't an adjective, like "agile RUP." Agile has particular theoretical characteristics (www.controlchaos.com/excerpt.pdf) and mannerisms that arise...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Dec 9, 2001 2:05 am
Jonas, I've always loved the idea of a current knowledge base, and even proposed to Rational that they do this with RUP, adding on "research and development" ...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Dec 9, 2001 2:05 am
Thoughtworks and I are implementing xp@Scrum at a customer and just finished the first Sprint on a project that has utterly failed twice so far. At the Sprint...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Dec 9, 2001 2:10 am
Excellent. Right now software projects only allow variation between cost, quality, time and functionality (usually just functionality). I intend to restate the...
