Words fail me! It isn't just the MSF for Agile stuff that is complete cack, the whole page is nonsense. Have you read the CMMI stuff too? All I can say is that...
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scrum@...
Nov 1, 2006 4:19 am
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms400752.aspx This is getting fixed up so might have changed already. Cheers Graeme ... unsubscribe@eGroups.com ... --...
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Robin Dymond
rdymond1
Nov 1, 2006 2:28 am
I would agree with Mike. Many of the teams I've worked with have between 10-15 people. There were a number of specific reasons for this, most to do with being...
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Julius Gawlas
juliusgawlas
Nov 1, 2006 12:19 am
Svetlana, Here are some comments from my experience: 1) I would start by creating an automated script that takes top of the trunk from your source control,...
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Brian Kennemer
briankenn
Oct 31, 2006 11:21 pm
I have spoken to Randy and he has emailed the team that handles the MSDN page that had the reference to the Agile Alliance. It is being addressed now and...
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Malcolm Anderson
malcolm.b.anderson@...
Oct 31, 2006 11:13 pm
... Great point, but I will submit that even with all the different breeds, everyone will still be able to agree, "Yep, that's a squirrel". Right now, people...
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Rachel Davies
rachelclaire...
Oct 31, 2006 10:40 pm
Ron just posted this to Agile Alliance board. As chair of Agile Alliance, I can state that we were invited by Rnady to get involved with MSF initiative this...
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John Lee
xyz_kada
Oct 31, 2006 9:57 pm
Svetlana, Yes, the focus should be unit testing and unit test automaton infrastructure as first order of business. Once you have the unit testing plus QA...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 31, 2006 9:40 pm
Hello, David. Randy/Ken/Ron Miller and I are on it. Thanks! On ... Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com One test is worth a thousand expert opinions. -- Bill Nye...
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Svetlana Didinchuk
sdidinchuk@...
Oct 31, 2006 9:24 pm
Thanks Jan, ... In my company QA using Mercury for automated testing but we don't use automation for unit tests. What tools you are using for automated unit...
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Svetlana Didinchuk
sdidinchuk@...
Oct 31, 2006 9:12 pm
Hi John, ... opinions. What is your current system testing process, and perhaps I can add my experience, if >relevant. I don't know if our software...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Oct 31, 2006 9:03 pm
Lots of things, like Product Management, Project Management, functional management, compensation, removal of enterprise impediments, etc. have to be done. We...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Oct 31, 2006 8:58 pm
Does anyone have a URL for this? I can only imagine it was created by some bozo who didn't who didn't know what they were taking about. I can't imagine it came...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Oct 31, 2006 8:51 pm
Robin, You are probably smart enough and experienced enough to know that I can't answer your questions. Microsoft made certain decisions about how it wanted to...
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David J Anderson
netherby_uk
Oct 31, 2006 8:42 pm
Ken, Can you make a change to scrum gradually, incrementally, or is an out-with-the-old, in-with-the-new type transformation? What has been the reaction of...
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Jan Zizka
janzizka
Oct 31, 2006 8:41 pm
Hi, http://www.phoenix-interactive.com/ works in my Firefox 1.5.0.7. Svetlana, we have been in similar situation not so long time ago and most valuable change...
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Svetlana Didinchuk
sdidinchuk@...
Oct 31, 2006 8:30 pm
Hi Keith, Thanks for your response and suggestions. I know that testing is up to developers and team as a whole. What I intend to do is to analyze the problems...
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Brian Kennemer
briankenn
Oct 31, 2006 8:21 pm
Well the actual Agile for MSF documentation does not mention the Agile Alliance. I asked Graeme for the url for the page he was talking about and reference...
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Laurent Ploix
lauploix
Oct 31, 2006 7:54 pm
I happened to do exactly what you describe... May be (surely) not the best way to do, but hey, it worked. Here it is : 1) find a unit-test framework that will...
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Ricardo Mayerhofer
imp_galo
Oct 31, 2006 7:00 pm
IMO MSF Agile is better than Waterfall and MSF. I don't care about it's name, I think true agilist will keep practing agile dispite of its name. So why not? ...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Oct 31, 2006 6:57 pm
... Unfortunately for you and your assignment, improving unit testing and the system testing process is a team responsibility. You can perhaps facilitate that...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 31, 2006 6:28 pm
Hello, Brian. On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, at 11:32:28 AM, you ... I'm not declaring it the anti-christ. I'm pointing out that (if I understood what David...
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John Lee
xyz_kada
Oct 31, 2006 6:18 pm
It seems there are as many definition of system testing, as there are opinions. What is your current system testing process, and perhaps I can add my...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 31, 2006 6:17 pm
Hello, Ragnar. Would the team prefer to be split, or prefer to work ... Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Oct 31, 2006 6:13 pm
One of the first things your company should do is fix its web-pages. Refusing to work with non-IE browsers on the company's main page is unacceptable. I get...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 31, 2006 6:09 pm
Hello, Ken. On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, at 8:45:36 AM, you ... We're on it. Thanks to Graeme and to Mike Cohn, who flagged it to my attention. Ron Jeffries ...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Oct 31, 2006 5:18 pm
... Ah, yes, I can see how implementing XP can seem more daunting, and how that could hold people from stopping from doing the stupid things they do now. "But...
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Joseph Little
jhlittle1
Oct 31, 2006 5:16 pm
Hi Robin, I recall being in a large corp or two, where I tried to get something I wanted, and...it turned out the work of a "committee" (rather than a real...
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Joseph Little
jhlittle1
Oct 31, 2006 5:02 pm
Hi all, It is rather amusing and interesting and challenging to read all these posts. Seems simple to me...I like Scrum and I'm sticking with it. But if ...
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Brian Kennemer
briankenn
Oct 31, 2006 4:45 pm
An alternative would be to see if it works before declaring it and it's creators the anti-christ. brian kennemer | www.projectified.com endlessly obsessing...