(responding to Ilja) ... and ... Good start. I agree with Scott's suggestion that we are talking about expectations. Perhaps we also need to consider the...
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Paul Oldfield
pauloldfield1
Sep 5, 2007 7:44 am
(responding to Wolfgang, Roy) ... I'll share a definition of 'engineer' I heard a while ago; like all jokes it has enough truth to make an impact. "An engineer...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 5, 2007 3:59 am
I agree entirely with you, and with Scott (I am sure Scott will be greatly encouraged by that :) But I see it as a problem point still, that clients want an up...
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Rob Park
rpark68
Sep 5, 2007 2:30 am
According to Scott Ambler anyway, the triangle is indeed "schedule, budget and scope" and "Quality is at the center". (http://www.ddj.com/architect/184414962) ...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 5, 2007 1:21 am
Yes, I agree, Wolfgang, that engineers had to do things for the first time. In fact, it could reasonably be said that any construction project is a first time,...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 5, 2007 12:57 am
Kelly Waters / All About Agile ... What an excellent site!!! Total thumbs up!!! Roy Morien To: scrumdevelopment@...:...
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Leonard Lehew
lglehew
Sep 4, 2007 9:55 pm
Scrum vs. waterfall; Empirical vs. Predictable... I'll mostly buy that. However, this empirical vs. predictable characterization is often used as reason not...
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Scott Preece
sepreece
Sep 4, 2007 9:52 pm
Well, that's in the right direction, but it's more like "the expected cost of dealing with change, the expected cost of not being able to respond to things ...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Sep 4, 2007 9:12 pm
... - you won't learn anything while doing the project, - circumstances won't change during the execution of the project, and - putting a partial system into...
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Leonard Lehew
lglehew
Sep 4, 2007 9:03 pm
... I disagree, though I do consider people a resource. Things that are considered "resources" from a project management point of view can be acquired for...
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David A Barrett
barrettdab
Sep 4, 2007 8:29 pm
... I was going to nitpick you to death about time being a resource (which it's not, programmer hours are a resource - but not a deadline or the passage of...
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kswaters1
Sep 4, 2007 8:13 pm
My thoughts on question #1 - what are the disadvantages of agile software development? http://kw-agiledevelopment.blogspot.com/2007/09/disadvantages-of- ...
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Rob Park
rpark68
Sep 4, 2007 7:40 pm
I can live with that. :-) .rob....
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Rob Park
rpark68
Sep 4, 2007 7:39 pm
... XML files. I certainly didn't mean that an RDBMS was the imperative, and only, choice. (Actually, I didn't specifically mention RDBMS at all). Are you...
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Kane Mar
kane_sfo
Sep 4, 2007 7:07 pm
We are pleased to announce the next meeting of the Seattle Scrum Users Group. Although then intent is to focus primarily on Scrum, all flavors of Agile (XP,...
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harald.walker
Sep 4, 2007 6:16 pm
I think this might be interesting for some Scrum Masters. Would be nice to see some of you in Brussels. ... Jeffrey Fredrick and Paul Julius, on behalf of the...
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Sep 4, 2007 4:20 pm
(responding to Roy) Resources, Scope and Quality is my personal understanding of the classic triangle, and I will be the first to admit that my memory may have...
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Sep 4, 2007 4:19 pm
Time is a resource, same as money and people, venues, etc. (I know it sounds terrible to put people into the resource category, but for the purpose of this...
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Scott Preece
sepreece
Sep 4, 2007 4:07 pm
Penalty clauses are fine, as long as they are (a) negotiated fairly and acceptable to both parties and (b) paired with incentive payments for early delivery....
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Sep 4, 2007 4:06 pm
Roy, I don't think that the application of "engineering" to the development of software is inapplicable. You may want to recall the engineers that developed...
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Quinton
northwoodjr
Sep 4, 2007 3:31 pm
This subject line of "Penalty Clause" makes me think of "Culture of Honor" - where "might makes right" I prefer to work in a culture where the leader operates...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 4, 2007 3:21 pm
Yes, I think the modern Iron Triangle has four corners :) Wolfgang did say clearly 'The classic triangle'. But I thought that it was Time, Cost, Scope ... and...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 4, 2007 3:17 pm
(responding to Paul) My experience is that having a portfolio of software development tools, such as application generators and report writers are rarely able...
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Jim Hyslop
jimhyslopca
Sep 4, 2007 2:15 pm
... Hash: SHA1 ... I thought it was four points: quality, scope, resources and time. In agile processes, quality is fixed at "High" leaving scope, resources...
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David A Barrett
barrettdab
Sep 4, 2007 2:07 pm
Wolfgang, ... the ... That confuses me. First, the "classic" triangle is usually considered to be time, resources and scope. I would consider, "quality" to...
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Paul Oldfield
pauloldfield1
Sep 4, 2007 1:16 pm
(responding to Roy) ... Taking a 'normal' cross section of projects I would expect 'agile' to be more productive. You need to meet the very constraining entry...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 4, 2007 12:36 pm
An interesting point, that Waterfall is more productive than Agile. I would like to see the evidence of that. In fact, one research paper that I have indicates...
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Paul Oldfield
pauloldfield1
Sep 4, 2007 12:02 pm
(responding to Roy) ... At least a couple of the Agile thought leaders have expressed the view that, where it works, Waterfall is more productive than Agile....
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 4, 2007 11:39 am
A good point, Wolfgang ... projects that can be stopped halfways and still delivers value. This is one clear differentiation between software projects and...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Sep 4, 2007 11:35 am
Thank you Paul ... we're creeping up on it, I think. But, isn't one of the apparent benefits of agile development that development is actually more productive...
