I do not disagree with you. This thread originally started out with the idea that "story points are lame," which I disagreed with. Next some compared points...
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Fred Montaseri
fredmontaseri
Oct 1, 2007 2:39 pm
Hi all, and thank you for your feedback. Let me share some more with you on this case. In giving you more background. the management has been trying so many...
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Andy Powell
opie779
Oct 1, 2007 3:45 pm
You are a product owner and you're about to kick off the next release. You're received input from your stakeholders, created stories and had them estimated by...
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Dan Rawsthorne
drawstho
Oct 1, 2007 4:04 pm
I agree with your rant - your reasoning is similar to my own. If you need more accurate estimates, you must pay for them. That is, you must do a lot of...
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Malcolm Anderson
malcolm.b.anderson@...
Oct 1, 2007 5:17 pm
If the the management team hasn't publicly acknowledged their role in the current situation (i.e. long history of top down induced fads), then it's...
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John-Mason P. Shackel...
jp_shackelford
Oct 1, 2007 8:36 pm
Padhma, How do you defined failed for the purpose of your study? -- John-Mason Shackelford Software Development Coach Pearson 2510 North Dodge St. Iowa City,...
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John-Mason P. Shackel...
jp_shackelford
Oct 1, 2007 9:20 pm
The best measures of Scrum success are satisfied customers and a healthy ROI for the business. We'd also like some measures which indicate whether a team has...
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Henrik Kniberg
hkniberg
Oct 1, 2007 9:39 pm
The idea of finding useful metrics for Scrum is not bad. But the risk is that you might just get what you measure. ... completed ... product owner. This is...
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Henrique Borges
henriqueborg...
Oct 1, 2007 10:01 pm
I sugest the metric "Story Delivered / Story Planned". Values near 1 suggest predictability. Higher values sugest under-commit and lower values sugest...
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David Morash
david_morash
Oct 1, 2007 11:33 pm
So what does the team think their "problems"; are? It seems like management (and by implication, perhaps you as well) are saying "Scrum will fix all your...
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Daniel Wildt
dwildt2
Oct 2, 2007 1:09 am
You mean the velocity calculation, based on points, hours or stories delivered/planned? That you have with the burndown chart, in Scrum perspective. Regards, ...
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Joseph Little
jhlittle1
Oct 2, 2007 4:31 am
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paul_oldfield_ams
paul_oldfiel...
Oct 2, 2007 6:52 am
(responding to Dan) Hi, Dan - it's been a while ;-) ... Clearly the answer is always to do "enough" up front thinking. It doesn't worry me that in a given...
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Emiliano Heyns
emiliano_heyns
Oct 2, 2007 9:38 am
Hi, I'm wondering what to do about the variability of our sprint lengths. It makes it a bit harder to monitor our velocity, but our PO has very limited ...
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Oct 2, 2007 10:31 am
This is a wonderful example of how Scrum exposes weaknesses in an organization, which now has a chance to reconsider various options and the importance of...
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Emiliano Heyns
emiliano_heyns
Oct 2, 2007 10:53 am
Hi Wolfgang, ... No, unfortunately. He works part-time, and only about half of the time he's available to the organization is allotted to us. Effectively, that...
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paul_oldfield_ams
paul_oldfiel...
Oct 2, 2007 11:18 am
(responding to Emile) ... One thing I've had succeed on a RUP project might work for you? We assigned someone from our team to act as "Product Owner" proxy and...
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Oct 2, 2007 11:36 am
Well, I suppose the fundamental question really is how important is this project to the company? If it is really important, then surely they can be made to...
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mbourque
Oct 2, 2007 12:49 pm
Dont miss the "Learn about Agile Scrum in Boston, MA (Free)..." October 3, 2007 6:30pm Cambridge. ... ...
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Emiliano Heyns
emiliano_heyns
Oct 2, 2007 1:16 pm
... I like that. In our case, however, the person closest to having something that could be labeled BA skills without the rest of the group sniggering would be...
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Emiliano Heyns
emiliano_heyns
Oct 2, 2007 1:27 pm
... That is a very good question indeed. Our project was started to automate the calculation of KPIs (Scorecarding) for units within our organization. These ...
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woynam
Oct 2, 2007 3:00 pm
Exactly. We've had several projects that were canceled within the first few sprints. The development team kept finding contradictions in the requirements, such...
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Huet Landry
huetlandry
Oct 2, 2007 3:10 pm
I serving as the ScrumMaster to roll out the Scum approach win a government organization. The organization has traditionally used a waterfall approach, but...
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Petri Heiramo
petriheiramo
Oct 2, 2007 3:12 pm
Hi, ... limited ... lengthen ... at the ... I consider these things as one of those "just have to manage with" situations. You should keep trying to set up a...
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Petri Heiramo
petriheiramo
Oct 2, 2007 3:17 pm
Wolfgang has a very good list of why you should try to get to the regular release cycle. :) I agree with all that. Bring it to the attention of the PO. See if ...
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Emiliano Heyns
emiliano_heyns
Oct 2, 2007 3:36 pm
... Same here. The fact that we aborted sprint 2 was probably the one of the best things we've done so far in our project. It sent a clear message that we...
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Wolfgang Schulze Zachau
wolfiesz
Oct 2, 2007 4:10 pm
Aaarrrrgghhh. Product Owners out of state. Why the plural? Is there more than one of them? If there is more than one, it would be (much much) better to find a...
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Malcolm Anderson
malcolm.b.anderson@...
Oct 2, 2007 4:23 pm
Have you tried a "Customer Report Card"? I'm not sure where I picked this idea up, but at the time, we were starting to use "This new fangled Scrum thing" in a...
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Rob Park
rpark68
Oct 2, 2007 4:45 pm
I would expect that stories planned vs. delivered does not account for points, but rather is just a count of story cards. We're working on something similar,...
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Mike Sutton
mikesutton7474
Oct 2, 2007 5:07 pm
before we get lost in the fray, lets take a step back and ask whether this thread originated from the 'correct'/'advocated'/optimum usage of story points as an...
