Some in this list may be interested in this workshop: "Self-Organisation and Evolution of Social Behaviour." http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/events/monteverita2002/ ...
(I know most of the people subscribed to this list belong to the Extreme Programming mailing list, but just in case some of you missed this posting at the...
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Ken Schwaber
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Jul 8, 2002 12:39 pm
Mike, I congratulate your focus. We are in danger of this being thought and whittled to death. Like the movie, "Death by a Thousand Blows." I had a similar...
Ken: What a joy to read your XP 2002 speech. I wish I would have been there. It is certainly inspiring, provocative and gets the point across: Agile is...
A huge problem results from software developers (and certainly development managers) having been trained over the past 20 years or so to want to write down a...
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Ken Schwaber
ken.schwaber@...
Jul 8, 2002 4:47 pm
Mike, I'll have to remember these two tasks (3 and 4) for my next project. What a parody! Barry Boehm and a lot of other respected people like him are the...
Mike: Well said: the intellectual baggage of _defined_ processes carried over from previous lives, projects, related experience, and education causes for most ...
Mike, Mike, Everybody: I like these. Can't someone put together a nice article that describe these, and similar, in length? As an anti-pattern (of course :-) )...
... Ken: I didn't have the courage to put it quite on these words, but yes, I wholeheartedly agree. If people hear believable misconceptions, half truths, or...
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Ken Schwaber
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Jul 9, 2002 10:37 am
MIke, Linda Rising is the bard and songstress of agile. I hope she takes these from village to village so people understand better. Ken ... From: Mike Beedle...
I have a couple of observations. Observation 1: Every movement I know of – Just-in-Time, Quality, Lean Manufacturing, Theory of Constraints, you name it –...
You're right, Mike! I've heard that quote before and it is totally appropriate in this case as well. It already seems like "agile" has become the decade's new...
Mike- The differences you describe here are perfect. Somewhat to Mary's point about needing to trust managers, though, sometimes this isn't the manager's or...
... better ... basic of ... levels of ... Grady: (Thanks for your response when I wrote the first "Agile Software Development Revolution" and "Agile Rentschian...
... Imo, it goes both ways. It is a self-constant solution in the mathematical meaning, an a Gestalt like solution in the cognitive sense: Practices...
... But I meant "self-consistent" not "self-constant" ... Self-consistent solutions of course depend on rapid feedback of inspection --> adaptation, - Mike...
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Booch, Grady
egb@...
Jul 11, 2002 2:11 pm
... [egb> ] The power of self-organizing systems does indeed have an interesting basis of theory behind it. I've followed with great interest the work on chaos...
... Grady: I disagree. I have been running Scrum teams for 6 years and about 2 years of Scrum and XP mixed together, and I have never felt stronger, and more...
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Laurent Bossavit
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Jul 11, 2002 5:51 pm
... Yeah, four lines. Just think, if it had been 170 of you for 2 years you could have written a book....
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Laurent Bossavit
laurent@...
Jul 11, 2002 5:53 pm
... ...which, at that, might have been a more worthwhile effort than most of what passes for software projects with 170 people over 2 years, right... ...but...
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Laurent Bossavit
laurent@...
Jul 11, 2002 6:06 pm
... Just goes to show, as one of my favorite writers has it (except I can't remember which one, probably Dennett) you want to be careful when you try to...
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Booch, Grady
egb@...
Jul 11, 2002 6:17 pm
... [egb> ] Mike, you've missed my point. Are self-organizing systems fragile? Yes...take a look at any of the references I offered up - that's the conclusion...
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Laurent Bossavit
laurent@...
Jul 11, 2002 6:43 pm
... You think that this doesn't apply to movements that are driven by vacillating, common, hard-working individuals with ordinary amounts of conceptual...
... ceases to ... Grady: (A meta note, please don't read this as if I acting defensively. I am calm, relaxed and friendly. Any other interpretation is purely...
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Booch, Grady
egb@...
Jul 11, 2002 11:07 pm
... [egb> ] I've read some of these authors (and upon your recommendation just ordered a pile from Amazon). Axelrod I have found to be quite vacuous; I don't...
... Ah, I would agree that "fragile" applies to agile projets in that sense too - they have a large but limited tolerance for fertilizer, known in our milieu...
What I want to know is whether the people who coined the term Scrum have ever been in one. It's not exactly a pleasent place to be (especially if you're in the...
