I doubt that forcing anything is ever good. (Including when my mom forced me to eat vegetables.) Making and meeting commitments is valuable and--within...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 2, 2004 5:14 pm
... Yeah, I'm famous for saying exactly, literally, what I mean. :) Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com You keep using that word. I do not think it means what...
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Marc Hamann
gmhamann
Oct 2, 2004 5:14 pm
... I agree 100% with this, which makes me realize a few crucial assumptions I should have made clear in my previous post. I'm assuming that the team was...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 2, 2004 5:16 pm
... I base this on many years of observing what happens when management resorts to forced overtime. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com It is a bad plan that...
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Marc Hamann
gmhamann
Oct 2, 2004 5:21 pm
... With the clarification in my other post that the suffering is self-imposed, do you still disagree? Are you saying that the team should be shielded from the...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 2, 2004 5:22 pm
... Variety is almost certainly good. But here's the part I liked, emphasized ... Big difference between that and Pete's admittedly over-the-top " otherwise ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 2, 2004 5:23 pm
... Gotcha. We're all on the same page, I think. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I was smarter before I donated my brain to science. I didn't know they meant...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 2, 2004 5:36 pm
... Not in the same way. I'm not convinced that suffering teaches teams much, but my concerns about imposing suffering have been abated. Thanks! Ron Jeffries ...
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Mike Cohn
mikewcohn
Oct 2, 2004 7:01 pm
Yes, it absolutely has to be a collective decision. Good teams in this situation will look at it and decide if they should "go for it" or if going for it would...
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todd
toddhoff1
Oct 2, 2004 7:04 pm
... I didn't say you did. You do say anything over 40 hours is overtime but there are certainly other numbers that make sense as well. ... Agreed...for a...
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Mike Cohn
mikewcohn
Oct 2, 2004 9:25 pm
February 1995. That's the last time I told a team they had to work overtime. Like a recovering alcoholic, I remember the date of my last transgression. --Mike...
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Antonio Perez
master_yoda2k4
Oct 3, 2004 12:44 pm
Hi may name is Antonio And i am using scrum in my computer class. Antonio Perez ... Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish....
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Deb
debhart9
Oct 3, 2004 1:48 pm
Hi Antonio - welcome to the list! What do you think of Scrum so far? Deb...
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Deb
debhart9
Oct 3, 2004 2:15 pm
Here's how I understand the "speech" referenced below: We do Scrum because we don't have a crystal ball - using Scrum we can inspect-and-adapt as we go. We do...
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Deb
debhart9
Oct 3, 2004 2:22 pm
But you're not above a bit of drama now and then, are you Ron? ;-> deb ... means....
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Deb
debhart9
Oct 3, 2004 2:25 pm
I was on a team where "normal" varied by person: for me it was 40h, for one lead developer, it was more like 50h. For him this was sustainable. Not sure what...
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Mike Cohn
mikewcohn
Oct 3, 2004 3:09 pm
The amount someone works is independent of what gets drawn on the burndown charts. For example: You are a very accurate estimator and have contributed to the...
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Hal Macomber
HalMac3
Oct 3, 2004 6:03 pm
Getting people to report their impediments is a small class of a much bigger universe. People routinely don't speak and don't listen. Either can be a great...
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woynam
Oct 4, 2004 2:44 pm
No, you are correct. If the process is functioning properly, features may have to be removed as estimates are refined. However, we're refering to a case where...
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todd
toddhoff1
Oct 4, 2004 4:29 pm
Very interesting paper. Thanx....
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Joel
klondike1948
Oct 4, 2004 7:33 pm
I just thought I would keep the group informed. This is from an upcoming ITEC conference: "David L. Houseman Vice President & CTO, Advanced Technology Unisys ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Oct 5, 2004 3:55 am
... Based on some advice from Kent Beck a long time ago: 1. Explain to them privately, the impact of their behavior on the team, and ask them not to do it...
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Dion Stewart
touchgtr
Oct 5, 2004 5:24 am
... Will forcing the team members to work overtime prevent them from withholding information during the next sprint? Is there a chance that by forcing the...
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Mike Beedle
beedlem
Oct 5, 2004 5:30 am
(Joel writes: "What is "Agile Extreme?" Unisys Corporation Vice President and Chief Technology Officer David L. Houseman will demonstrate this new agility...
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barc0815
Oct 5, 2004 7:56 am
Hi, does anybody have experiences with the participation of part time workers in Scrum sprints? We see some issues regarding communication and cooperation. The...
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Clarke Ching
clarkeching
Oct 5, 2004 1:30 pm
Hi everyone, I have a question that I don't think I've seen on this list before, and I don't have direct experience of working in an agile environment, so...
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Clinton Keith
clintonnkeith
Oct 5, 2004 5:05 pm
... From: Dion Stewart [mailto:dion.stewart@...] ... I agree. However the movement from "command and control" to "self organizing teams with ownership"...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Oct 5, 2004 5:38 pm
Kert Peterson is holding a CSM Course in Dallas that I highly recommend. Information follows: ScrumMaster Certification Course in Dallas (Nov 4-5) ...
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gabby_robertson
Oct 5, 2004 11:20 pm
For people in the Bay Area or keen travellers: Mary Poppendieck, author of Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit is running a 2 day course in San Jose on...
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todd
toddhoff1
Oct 5, 2004 11:26 pm
I've just started reading Mike Cohn's excellent new book titled "User Stories Applied." So far i really like the simple and clean writing style. In the...
