Ron, you are obfuscating the situation. But let's not give that Mark guy the satisfaction of opening up a verbal tussle again ... it is not that important in...
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Jan 2, 2011 12:11 pm
Oh Yes, and I wish all gathered here a Very Happy, Successful and Prosperous New Year, 2554 ... which is the Buddhist year equal to 2011 ... given I live in...
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Roy Morien
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Jan 2, 2011 12:26 pm
I was in this position once upon a time, abd the lessons that I learned about selecting a 3rd party package basically boiled down to: 1. Ensure that you have a...
Make or buy decisions,lot of variables comes into the play. cost to produce + maintenance cost + customer service cost + etc etc depending on nature of your...
This year's Agile 2011 conference (August 7 - 13, Salt Lake City) will have a stage focusing on Embedded systems. James Grenning and I are co-producing it, and...
Agile 2011 – Insights- Experience Reports http://agile2011.agilealliance.org/ August 7-13, 2011, Salt Lake City, USA Insight reports share intriguing...
The use of the bee as a metaphor for industry is well founded. Work together, help each other, etc..., is all common sense. I don't get how swarming is some...
Hi Jedi, ... What in the world has that got to do with swarming? This is not the argument you are looking for. Parallelizing work too much often kills a team's...
Hi Jedi, ... It's one way. What else would you consider if the team often ends up with two or more unfinished stories at the finish line? Cheers, Laurent...
... Hi AJ, to me your outburst sounds, well, overcomplicated. I understand swarming as simply as "put as many team members working on the most important story...
Hi Jedi, Trust you feelings, not your machines ;-) In my classes, I show how smaller stories and serializing (rather than multitasking) can increase the team's...
Hello, agilejedi. On Monday, January 3, 2011, at 4:21:40 PM, you ... This reply suggests to me that you're not really interested in being convinced about...
Hi Jedi, ... In one particular case I've seen this happen, the stories were broken down into tasks that seemed adequately sized. What would happen, though, was...
Hello, agilejedi. On Monday, January 3, 2011, at 4:40:57 PM, you ... If you get to the end of an iteration with more than one unfinished story, that tells us...
... If people are sitting around and done with their stories then they could ask if their assistance would help. If everyone is working the story goes...
... It is overcomplicated, but really it is ill defined. Swarming was introduced to me as an approach that is superior and shows maturity and that everyone...
Hello ronjeffries, I am not interested in being convinced of swarming in the manner it has been first introduced to me because it doesn't make sense. Therefore...
laurent, Excellent description. Does having too many cooks in the kitchen come into play? In my introduction to swarming it seemed that all we were going to do...
... No. The purpose of swarming is not to address unfinished stories. The purpose of swarming is to increase quality and consistency by getting the whole team...
... Okay, that makes perfect sense. This code is released seldom, so the idea of one story being exceptionally more important than another during an iteration...
... That doesn't seem to be the same as other explanations. Not that the desire to increase quality isn't good. Increased consistency may not be a concern for...
Mary Doria Russell said "Wisdom begins when we learn the difference between 'That makes no sense', and 'I don't understand'." Be that as it may, if your...
... I don't disagree with any specific thing Ron or Laurent said, but I do think finishing stories by the end of the Sprint is a side effect and getting...
Here is a simple "best use" of swarming. Conditions: - Team of 8 people - Two week sprints - 6 stories in the sprint - Story 1 is highest priority, 2 next...
" Because if a story is not complete at the end of the sprint, it should NOT be story 1, the most important story. " ALL stories should be done at the end of...
I do not mean to imply that having a story incomplete at the end of the sprint is to be expected or normal. Nor does swarming on story 1 necessarily mean that...
"I do not mean to imply that having a story incomplete at the end of the sprint is to be expected or normal. Nor does swarming on story 1 necessarily mean...
Exactly! You describe swarming as it should be, something that happens naturally, day-to-day. My example scenario was for the purpose of making a reason for...
