Hi, I would like to get the communities opinion on the following: Assuming that after implementing Scrum the team becomes self-managing and becomes hyper...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Feb 1, 2011 6:22 pm
Roy, ... I think you're confusing work with activity. This is not the physics definition of work, but a business one in which work indicates accomplishing...
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Dave Rooney
daverooneyca
Feb 1, 2011 6:22 pm
... My first thought is, "Why has the team lost sight of the bigger picture architecturally?" Why hasn't that been a consideration during all sprints? -- Dave...
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Erin Beierwaltes
erinestadler
Feb 1, 2011 6:24 pm
Sure! What do you mean by the goal line and growth line? Are you referring to story points? I guess I am not completely understand what you are reporting or...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Feb 1, 2011 6:36 pm
Ron, for completeness... ... 3. Leave the goal line the same, and move the growth line backward when a defect is found. This is essentially the strategy...
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Jon Archer
jonarcher
Feb 1, 2011 6:49 pm
We are releasing every quarter and just decided to have an "innovation" sprint in between each release. Partly to decompress, partly to let people do whatever...
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bennyou.cpt1
Feb 1, 2011 6:55 pm
I guess this could be for a number of reasons, but let's say for example a project has had quite a long life cycle and most of the people who have implemented...
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Seyit Caglar Abbasoglu
scabbasoglu
Feb 1, 2011 7:42 pm
... IMO this is dangerous and should not be allowed. And if a team really lost site of architecture, it might be really hard to get back line in just one ...
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Dan Rawsthorne
drawstho
Feb 1, 2011 7:46 pm
I do not recommend pushing the goal line forward. I recommend the goal line already being forward, taking into account the expected number of defects, etc....
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 1, 2011 7:50 pm
Hello, Erin. On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, at 1:24:18 PM, you ... OK, let's see if this helps: Scrum asks us to maintain a Product Burn Chart that shows the...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 1, 2011 7:52 pm
Hello, George. Yes. I don't even consider #3. There are probably other even more arcane approaches. I prefer just tracking features, period. :) On Tuesday,...
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Alan Dayley
alandond
Feb 1, 2011 7:55 pm
Some teams create a culture of sharing via events. - "Tech Talks" are held at least once a sprint to describe new architecture, invite stakeholders to present...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 1, 2011 7:57 pm
Hello, Dan. On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, at 2:46:50 PM, you ... To be sure I'm now clear ... you recommend setting the goal line beyond the total of all...
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wolfgangwiedenroth
wolfgangwied...
Feb 1, 2011 8:19 pm
I like your analogy, because the answer to your question lies within it. There are two possibilities while driving by map. 1. You have a navigator telling you...
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Erin Beierwaltes
erinestadler
Feb 1, 2011 8:24 pm
Yes. Thank you. That is what I follow, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. To take it one step furthur, if I find a defect I don't change any...
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Paul Hudson
paulhudson
Feb 1, 2011 8:57 pm
What does your PO think of the idea? ... -- Sent from my mobile device...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 1, 2011 9:25 pm
Hello, Erin. On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, at 3:24:13 PM, you ... That's the way I do it. Scrum doesn't say explicitly afaik. Other people do it other ways. ...
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Dan Rawsthorne
drawstho
Feb 2, 2011 3:43 am
Ah, come see one of my fixed-price talks. Not known features, to be sure, but known stories, yes. Thinking we know all the stories up front is a serious...
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kbs_kulbhushan
Feb 2, 2011 4:38 am
Hello Roy, It means the "Done" was actually "Not Done". The velocity determined was not correct. That is why one sprint velocity is of "limited value", only...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Feb 2, 2011 4:50 am
If you find a defect in the features being developed in the current sprint, then you fix them. If that means that the story is not finished by the end of the...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Feb 2, 2011 4:53 am
Nobody, least of all I, suggested that velocity was based on one sprint only. I in fact used the term 'moving average over many sprints'.\ And yes, it means...
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kbs_kulbhushan
Feb 2, 2011 5:24 am
Hello Roy, Let us take an example: Sprint "Size Done" 1 18 2 12 3 ? Now predicitng work for Sprint-3 suppose I average...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Feb 2, 2011 7:14 am
I see your calculation ... Yes ... if you spend time, in Sprint 3, fixing defects from prior sprints, then you will produce less 'user story' work, meaning...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Feb 2, 2011 7:51 am
This is a strange question ... content fatigue ... delivering sprint in and sprint out ...lose sight of the bigger picture architecturally. First, I would...
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Roy Morien
roymorien@...
Feb 2, 2011 7:58 am
I fail to see how anything I have said can be interpreted as me wanting 'to spend as much time as I want cycling around bugs'. Where did this thought come...
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kbs_kulbhushan
Feb 2, 2011 9:52 am
Hello Roy, The averaging was just an example.... It could have been another number, as the "Team" itself selects what can possibly be done in a Sprint. ...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 2, 2011 10:41 am
Hello, Roy. On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, at 11:50:06 PM, you ... Yes. And raises important questions about steering, predicting, and getting a good sense of...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 2, 2011 10:48 am
Hello, kbs_kulbhushan. On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, at ... Not really, but it was a delightful demonstration of how many numbers can dance on the head of a...
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kbs_kulbhushan
Feb 2, 2011 11:24 am
Hello, But why? It tries to put forward the point that you need to finish tasks left "Not Done" before taking up more and scheduling the bug fixes in the "Size...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Feb 2, 2011 11:30 am
Hello, kbs_kulbhushan. On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, at 6:24:33 ... IMO the numerology swamped the idea. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com If another does...
