No. Don't do this. If you want to do waterfall. Just do that. Good luck. Don't fake it. Mike Vizdos ... No. Don't do this. If you want to do waterfall. Just do...
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Eric Tiongson
eric.tiongson
Nov 9, 2012 5:14 am
Agree with what Michael said, you'll just find yourself in a heap of trouble if you do that. However you can still use agile practices (not processes) within a...
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Ashish Mahajan
ashish_euphoric
Nov 9, 2012 5:23 am
Agreed. If you are good at swimming in water(fall),fine. If you are good at cycling(scrum cycles), fine. But trying cycling in water may be fatal. Regards ...
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woynam
Nov 9, 2012 2:49 pm
Actually, the latest episode of Mythbusters demonstrated that it is possible to cycle under water. 'Just don't try going uphill. :-) I agree with the others....
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 9, 2012 3:11 pm
The actual business question is can we deliver what the customer wants in the timeframe they want it and still make money? However you figure that out it is an...
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woynam
Nov 9, 2012 3:22 pm
Yea, we all know that the folks in the agile community are just a bunch of misfit troublemakers. :-) The software development industry was going along just...
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Jose Solera
strstruck222
Nov 9, 2012 9:25 pm
I beg to disagree with those who say not to do it. If you have to, you have to. I had to do it once (no choice, believe me!) What I did: I layered an approach...
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woynam
Nov 9, 2012 9:44 pm
That's a nice write-up, Jose, but I don't see how it's going to help the original poster. The OP describes a by-the-book (serial) waterfall approach involving...
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Markus Gaertner
shino01051979
Nov 10, 2012 11:46 am
Yesterday a new certification program popped up on my twitter stream - I think with some critique from Deb Preuss and Boris Gloger already. It's called...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Nov 10, 2012 11:00 pm
Markus, ... Fight it? There's always going to be diploma mills. Perhaps the existence of this will help organizations realize that they need to look beyond the...
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ravindra raghuwanshi
ravindraraghu
Nov 10, 2012 11:19 pm
Hi Eric In our team we've consultant as SME & also group of consultant as a different team.  I do not see any issue in this & we've done many releases...
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Cass Dalton
cassdalton73
Nov 10, 2012 11:19 pm
I agree. I also read that chapter and felt like someone had found the missing piece of my puzzle. My org has tons of "heros" with years of institutional...
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Jesse Houwing
jesse.houwing
Nov 10, 2012 11:19 pm
A common heard trick is to give the consultant no keyboard. He can only 'code-by-proxy'. Having a team that is very much used to pair programming and that...
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Dinesh Sharma
dinesh_shama
Nov 10, 2012 11:19 pm
I have used Team Consultants but more as Coaches. For example, one of the team member I added to a new team was very strong on Java and TDD but his main role...
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Manko, Franziska
franzi.manko
Nov 10, 2012 11:19 pm
Hi, I find myself confronted with a "ScrumBut"; before we've even started working on the project ... but first things first. The project I'm looking at is the...
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Dan Greening
drgreening
Nov 10, 2012 11:21 pm
Hi Eric, Everyone is saying "Don't do it." I agree, but I'll try to explain why. There are MANY well-meaning people who think they can be the First People Ever...
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Dinesh Sharma
dinesh_shama
Nov 10, 2012 11:21 pm
So you want to follow RUP right? Â Thanks & Regards, Dinesh Sharma ________________________________ From: Ashish Mahajan <agileashish@...> To:...
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Cass Dalton
cassdalton73
Nov 10, 2012 11:21 pm
But you can learn from the agile community and greatly improve your waterfall process: - Use automated tests; and make sure they are easy to run, quickly ...
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Cass Dalton
cassdalton73
Nov 10, 2012 11:21 pm
Oops, hit send instead of enter... - Bring your developers closer to the stakeholders; get devs involved in the requirements analysis - Ensure that development...
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Cass Dalton
cassdalton73
Nov 10, 2012 11:21 pm
It also depends on how closely the customer is looking at the project execution. You can do an agile process internally and project waterfall milestone out....
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Michael Vizdos
mikev_work
Nov 11, 2012 12:47 am
So um, as eloquent as a lot of these explanations are (they are good rationalizations!) I still stand by my first recommendation. Don't do it. But then again...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Nov 11, 2012 1:54 am
Marco, ... I've seen a number of teams who think they're doing Agile development, but are, instead, trying to burn through a fixed backlog by using iterative...
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Michael Vizdos
mikev_work
Nov 11, 2012 1:27 pm
If the company implementing this does everything classical (as you wrote), perhaps have a conversation with them about how they would like to see the input...
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JoseS
strstruck222
Nov 11, 2012 8:37 pm
Thanks, Mark. In my experience, though, there's room to be flexible even when told you have to do it a certain way. Senior managers don't have time to...
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Michael James
michaeljames...
Nov 11, 2012 9:48 pm
As I meant to write earlier, I always appreciate hearing experience reports, such as the one you wrote Jose. I wouldn't choose to do waterfall for software...
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Mitch Lacey
mglacey
Nov 12, 2012 5:13 pm
Hi Eric (and the rest on the thread). The model was actually born out of the need to keep the group of the same people on a project from start to end. The...
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Aaron Seipel
evilaaron
Nov 13, 2012 7:56 pm
What you're describing really seems like the normal way most old-school waterfall teams adapt to Agile. You start small and prove the benefits to management,...
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Pierre Neis
pierreneis
Nov 13, 2012 7:57 pm
Hi Markus, You made a huge effort. Congrats. Here my question to all new certification designers: - "Scrum is about team effort. Why do you certify...
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Asad
safari_asad
Nov 14, 2012 8:44 am
Hi folks Iran Agile 2013 Practical Agile and Nothing Else 19 Feb 2013 – Tehran- Iran Iran Agile 2013 is the first specialized agile conference in Iran. It...
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jerzyklek
Nov 16, 2012 5:17 pm
Hi, I am quite new to this and and have been lurking for some time. I have one question to this comment since I am in a bit similar situation: we have a huge...
