Resolving this dispute helps teams work faster and better ... how? Seriously, though, I've never thought about what I call it. It's a user story, a card, a...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Dec 14, 2012 7:06 pm
We're trying to put the finishing touches on a lightweight introduction conversations (aka User Stories) see: ...
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Bret Wortman
WortmanB
Dec 14, 2012 7:28 pm
Ha! Well, that makes sense. My $.02 is that either sounds equally representative of the concept. ... -- Bret Wortman The Damascus Group Fairfax, VA ...
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Paul Hodgetts
agilelogic
Dec 14, 2012 8:20 pm
I'm kind of with Bret that this seems like a low-value thing to be burning cycles on, but I have spare cycles today... :) I like to use "token" to help...
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RonJeffries
ronaldejeffries
Dec 15, 2012 12:17 am
Hi Paul, et al, ... Yes, the card is a token, representing the thing to be done, or the task of doing it. And it is a ticket, authorizing the holder (of the...
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Derek Neighbors
gplfreak
Dec 15, 2012 12:53 am
You could release what you have and the let the users give you feedback. Adjust accordingly. Conversely, you could wait until it is perfect and every word is...
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Ken 'classmaker&#...
classmaker
Dec 15, 2012 1:15 am
It is a "placeholder" too, isn't it? Cheers, --Ken ;-) Ken 'classmaker' Ritchie (Atlanta, GA)...
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Jesse Houwing
jesse.houwing
Dec 15, 2012 1:15 am
That sounds much better!...
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Ken 'classmaker&#...
classmaker
Dec 15, 2012 1:16 am
"Placeholder" seems more neutral, non-polarizing, and worth the extra syllable. So that's how I explain story cards to newbies. I steer clear of "ticket" cuz...
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Christofer Jennings
christoferje...
Dec 15, 2012 1:16 am
A token sounds like some small pretend money used to play games that cost too much if I were using real money. A ticket sounds like something missing its...
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Dave Smith
dwsmtnview
Dec 15, 2012 6:51 pm
FWIW, I've always used 'placeholder', as in, "a story is a placeholder for a conversation." That's mostly what I hear, though I've heard 'token' on rare...
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Charles Bradley - Pro...
charles_brad...
Dec 16, 2012 6:43 pm
I think more context might help this thread. This is the introduction of the term "card" in the article. <snip> * Card: A token (with a story...
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RonJeffries
ronaldejeffries
Dec 16, 2012 8:00 pm
Hi Charles, ... I think that's just fine. First, because you get to write what you want, and second because "token" is a perfectly good word meaning a thing...
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Bret Wortman
WortmanB
Dec 17, 2012 12:34 am
As the guy who probably made everyone think that I thought this a waste of time, I see the value now. And the discussion is quite interesting. -- Bret Wortman ...
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Jesse Houwing
jesse.houwing
Dec 17, 2012 1:51 pm
I'd say, stick these items on the board as tasks so that you can get back to them. Or create specific tasks for them in Outlook. Sending out minutes for every...
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Yenni
yennidaklutz
Dec 17, 2012 1:51 pm
This makes much more sense now, Thank you all :) ~Yenni...
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Dale
aledaythuday
Dec 17, 2012 1:54 pm
It is customary in these Yahoo Groups for new members to post an introduction. Here is mine: I live in the Washington DC area, have been in the software...
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Jesse Houwing
jesse.houwing
Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm
While to some, this must be really important to get right... I don't really see the significant difference between the two. If you use a piece of paper, call...
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Steve Crago
butchcrago
Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm
+1 Paul Steve...
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Jesse Houwing
jesse.houwing
Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm
The real problem I have is that the ticket, token or item or invitation is not what it's about. It is about the conversation this token represents. But I can't...
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woynam
Dec 17, 2012 3:25 pm
Welcome, Dale. I think you'll find this group quite interesting. Quoting Gene Spafford's 1992 description of Usenet: "Usenet is like a herd of performing...
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Michael James
michaeljames...
Dec 17, 2012 3:45 pm
Welcome Dale. The trends around SOA are certainly interesting. Having spent (or perhaps wasted) one of my jobs building a services layer before any real client...
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avinap77
Dec 17, 2012 5:55 pm
Mark, It sounds like you and Ron are two team members in dispute. How can this list help you resolve it? Best wishes, Avi...
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avinap77
Dec 17, 2012 6:24 pm
And yet.... in Geek#: ========================== if ((!You.AreInConflict())||(You.JustWantSomeIdeas()==true)) { // // TODO: // // If you can't convey the...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Dec 17, 2012 6:39 pm
Hmmmm. I think this thread is being taken a little more seriously than I originally intended. I posted on Friday afternoon expecting 5-6 responses and a a...
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avinap77
Dec 17, 2012 6:43 pm
... Or better yet, use what your team is already good at to flesh out a solution, somethijng like this: [Test] public void...
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Markus Gaertner
shino01051979
Dec 17, 2012 7:24 pm
I hope there will once be a programming language invented where "if (* == true)" will result in a compiler error. Best Markus ... -- Dipl.-Inform. Markus...
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avinap77
Dec 17, 2012 9:13 pm
Charles, I just can't help myself here... ... Shouldn't //your specific// experience be telling you that, ummm... "The most efficient and effective method of ...
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avinap77
Dec 17, 2012 9:15 pm
Yeah, I hear that is possible in most dynamic languages these days. That's what makes scrum so powerful as a framework. ?!?!? Thanks Mark for this extremely...
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Charles Bradley - Pro...
charles_brad...
Dec 18, 2012 12:32 am
Avi, ... Yes, and if I could visit all of the development teams face to face around the world the way that Santa delivers presents... I would. I don't...
