Over the last year, I've seen more and more bad Scrum implementations (do we really need daily Scrums? why can't I tell the people what to do during the...
... Very thought-provoking, Ken. I cross-posted it to the xp leadership group. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Talent determines how fast you get good, not...
Then the focus will be on getting the ScrumMaster certification, There is something wrong with the whole idea of "certification", I remember Gerald M. Weinberg...
I tend to agree with Marco although I agree there is the problem Ken brings up. I think people need to use a certain amount of common sense. What is it that...
This is most interesting Ken, I have also seen a lot of bad CMM (in my opinion) and feel that the guidelines that CMM originally emphasized has become a victim...
... The two paragraphs above, in juxtaposition, raise one of the important questions. No one gets a high level CMM assessment unless an SEI-approved auditor...
Hi everybody, generally speaking I don't find certification too much significative because they simply mean the certified person theoretically knows something....
You've hit the heart of the matter, of course. Why did a similar effort fail for CMM, and why would it work for Scrum and XP? I have some research to do into...
Like some others who responded, I'm generally opposed to any form of certification. It has always seemed that "those who can't get certified"--and do so to...
Which is precisely why DSDM doesn't get a mention in my book - I couldn't get free access to research material. Going proprietary creates a barrier to entry...
I've found the DSDM people helpful in terms of providing information to me when I've told them I want to include it in a presentation that would include the...
Hi, I think it is worth keeping Ken's end-game in mind here. He doesn't want Scrum atrophying in the public mind because of poor quality implementations which ...
I agree -- it should not be a "satisfy these ten things" kind of certification. For instance, the most common problem I see is that Scrum meetings are going ...
I think you would have to certify teams or organizations, as opposed to simply the scrum master. There are two ares that drive my thoughts: Individuals are...
I also think tests, particularly multiple choice are terrible. And smart people can handle essays even as well. I had several thoughts in mind: 1. Provide...
Good observation. An organization can overwhelm singular competence without even trying. Or does it mean that a certified scrummaster only applies their craft...
Ain't we over-focussing on the exceptions here? Certification would be usefull if it improved the abilities of the mainstream of the scrummasters. The real...
... Yes. But if I understand, Ken is worried about "We tried Scrum and Scrum failed." And I'm worried too. Far from convinced that certification helps, but ...
More definition around Scrum could certainly be useful to many people. Right now I'd consider Scrum to be firmly between XP and Crystal in that sense. XP is...
Hi Ron, Agree with the worry. Linda in her post hits the nail on the head: it should not be a "satisfy these ten things" kind of certification. Which brings on...
I believe that this is the definition of an apprenticeship. When you learn from a master through following, watching and doing, you are an apprentice. Scaling...
... I'm far back in the curve from that. I'm not even convinced that it /could/ work. I need something more concrete to work with, to criticize. Ron Jeffries ...
Good idea, this makes me think in SIP (software in progress) measure that Kent Beck is developing; SIP try to measure the goodness of a project applying XP. ...
And also to add in here, the failures of applying SCRUM is where you really learn it. just my self obsessed view once again. Scott Worley ... From: Ron...
Thought you would be interested in what we are doing for lean project delivery. Greg Howell and I offer an 8-month porgram for developing the competence to...
I have had one good and one bad certification experience. The good one was APICS (American Production and Inventory Control Society). It was a challenging...
Those interested in assessment might want to check out the new discussion group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AgileAssessment/ Moderators Clyde Cutting and...
... If we speak about tech-related knowledge only I agree with you but regarding an agile approach where there are not only steps to follow to be successful I...
... I think that doing the practices brings understanding, not the other way around. And are there "steps to follow" in agile methods? Or are there just ...
... of course doing practices "helps" to understand but in my experieces this is not automatic. I see a lot of people reading a book, say about XP, and doing...
