Perhaps Alan is also pointing out that we should not be so intent to introduce Scrum in 'one day'. Perhaps people need more grounding in why it works and what...
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Mary Poppendieck <...
mpoppendieck
Mar 4, 2003 6:32 pm
Ken, Have you reported hacking this to Yahoo? I believe that they ask group moderators to report every hack to them so they can take action to stop it....
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info
info@...
Mar 4, 2003 4:46 pm
... Now you seem ... at a time. ... No, I'm saying some things they can understand up front and they transition by doing them (the ones they understand). This...
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Mike Cohn
mikewcohn
Mar 4, 2003 3:25 pm
Perhaps ScrumMasters can offer their services out on eBay as well. :) And if those programmers don't self organize by end of day we can bid on this: ...
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Lowell Lindstrom
omlowell
Mar 4, 2003 2:44 pm
A learning model to consider: 1. Information + Commentary leads to Knowledge I can read a book or attend a lecture and speak intelligently about a subject....
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Lowell Lindstrom
omlowell
Mar 4, 2003 2:16 pm
Is it really that hard to just hit <delete>? And add him to your kill file or Junk e-mail list. You give energy to his cause by reacting to it. We have...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 4, 2003 1:39 pm
... Earlier you were arguing for understanding BEFORE practicing. Now you seem to be arguing for gaining understanding BY practicing, but one at a time. ... No...
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Alan Shalloway
alshalloway
Mar 4, 2003 12:54 pm
Pairing is one of the few practices of XP that I agree has to be experienced to be understood. Virtually all of the other practices can be understood...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 4, 2003 11:24 am
... It's not clear, though I would hope so. I know that in the case of XP, there are many cases of deciding important things about it without doing the...
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Marco Abis
capotribu
Mar 4, 2003 11:04 am
... ok, we are on the same wave on this (but I think everybody in this list thinks it is necessary, am I right?) :) Marco Abis - CEO & Chairman Agility SPI:...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 4, 2003 11:01 am
... I'm not saying that the practices are sufficient to gain understanding. I'm saying they are necessary. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Steering is more...
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Marco Abis
capotribu
Mar 4, 2003 8:54 am
Hi everybody, ... of course as a friend of mine (subscribed to this list) is used to say: "you have to make XP live" but just starting doing XP doesn't imply...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Mar 4, 2003 6:38 am
Once again, a clever hack. HLindner is not a member of our egroup. Ken ... From: Henry Lindner [mailto:hlindner1@...] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:32...
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David J. Anderson
netherby_uk
Mar 4, 2003 6:30 am
I believe that the group is on to something with this - we're talking about a "trust engine". There is a well known role model for this - eBay! It would...
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Henry Lindner
hlindner1@...
Mar 4, 2003 4:32 am
Perseus Persuading, by Israel Shamir _________________________________________________ International Action Alert Turkey has made history! Please join us in...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Mar 4, 2003 3:27 am
We don't know everyone who is excellent, nor do we know everyone who is not. What if we had a referral list of people we did know that were excellent. Then we...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Mar 4, 2003 3:27 am
Repeat. These people are not on the lists and are not authorized members of our group. It is a hack. Ken ... From: Hal Macomber [mailto:hal@...] ...
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Mar 4, 2003 3:21 am
I tried to remove them, but they are not on the list. This is the second time our group in eGroups has been hacked for a message like this. I'm waiting and...
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Hal Macomber
HalMac3
Mar 4, 2003 2:40 am
This stuff has to stop. I fully support people expressing their political opinions. However this is not the forum for it. I urge the moderator to start...
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Kevin McIntosh
kevinmcintoshau
Mar 4, 2003 2:35 am
Agreed. They obviously have other lists that are more important to them. ... From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:ronjeffries@...] Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2003 1:33...
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Kevin McIntosh
kevinmcintoshau
Mar 4, 2003 2:35 am
Suggestion: Perhaps you could concentrate on something a little more positive in your life instead? This sort of thing really doesn't help anyone. -Kevin. ......
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 4, 2003 2:33 am
... I respectfully suggest removing this person from the list. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way. -- Jessica Rabbit...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 4, 2003 2:32 am
... You are supposed to do the practices IN ORDER to understand why, and how, they work. Agile practices are not a rote activity that can be programmed first...
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Alan Shalloway <al...
alshalloway
Mar 4, 2003 1:50 am
... other way ... there just ... So are we supposed to do the practices without understanding why they work? I have seen many projects go down in flames (not ...
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Hal Macomber
HalMac3
Mar 3, 2003 11:14 pm
I like the idea of a referral network. I get referrals from http://www.coachvillereferral.com/. There are others like it coverring many professions....
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Ken Schwaber
kschwaber
Mar 3, 2003 11:03 pm
"Perhaps what is needed is some kind of a referral/recommendation network rather than a formal recognition of 'status'" Is there something like this in other...
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Simon Coles
sc_itemplus
Mar 3, 2003 10:40 pm
... I'd second Mary's view that PMI certification is an anti-pattern. It's compounded by the fact that to retain your status you need to achieve a certain...
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Lowell Lindstrom
omlowell
Mar 3, 2003 5:44 pm
To summarize Ken's original post: * we see more and more bad Scrum and XP implementations * we've made every attempt to help people.... we're still coming up...
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Clyde Cutting
cuttingclyde
Mar 3, 2003 4:34 pm
Re Mary's message: ... Thanks, Mary, for reviewing and advising us on our workshop proposal. And thanks to Tom Poppendieck for making us aware of this...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Mar 3, 2003 11:27 am
... Kind of boring so far, but it shows promise. ;-> Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com You are closing your eyes to a situation you do not wish to acknowledge....
