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Re: SCT main mirror collimation

--- In sct-user@yahoogroups.com, "gnowellsct" <tim71pos@...> wrote:
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> I guess I don't understand why an irregularity or tilt in the hose
> clamp would not affect the total travel of my laser beam.

Some part of the hose clamp will make contact with the back
end of the mirror cell...and that profile is probably pretty
smooth/regular in shape.

That means you can rotate the mirror...and as the mirror cell keeps
contact with one part of the hose clamp...the cell/mirror won't
piston up/down the baffle tube by more than a small fraction of an
inch.

And if your laser reflection distance is 8 - 10 feet...you'll be
looking for laser spot movement of 1/8 inch more more...as an example.

> Basically my mirror is on a "plate." It is possibly tilted.

The tilt of the plate is not important. We are evaluating the tilt
of the reflective/optical surface of the main mirror. That is the
important thing we evaluate here. (After I glue the mirror in
place...I remove all connection with the rear plate...it was only
helpful when adjusting mirror tilt with set screws I added to it.)

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Tom Krajci
Cloudcroft, New Mexico
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Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA)
http://cbastro.org/ CBA New Mexico

American Association of Variable Star
Observers (AAVSO): KTC http://www.aavso.org/
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Wed Jul 8, 2009 9:45 pm

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A picture is worth a thousand words. New drawings/text at <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sct-user/files/LX200-OTA-disassembly/> This is proper collimation...
tom_krajci
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Jul 5, 2009
9:29 pm

Also on the C14 group, you can find in the files section some ray traces of the effect of an decentred secondary; result = astigmatism. Mark 2009/7/5...
Mark Crossley
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Jul 6, 2009
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Thank you the diagrams help illustrate the point very well. What exactly does "spin align" mean. How is it done? I have heard the term but it sounds like it...
gnowellsct
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Jul 6, 2009
6:56 pm

... It's based on the same idea you use anytime you want to see if something is really round- spin it and look for wobble. The same idea is at the root of the...
John Mahony
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Jul 7, 2009
1:26 am

Thanks Tom and John. OK I've got this mirror that is RTV'd to the support. I disconnect the focuser. I spin the thing and see that it is wobbling. Now, what...
gnowellsct
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Jul 7, 2009
5:27 am

by way of p.s., this is an exercise I could actually do, I could put a picture up of the wobble. Sounds to me like a two person job what with the laser and...
gnowellsct
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Jul 7, 2009
5:30 am

... A movie would be sexy, visually striking, but I just put a piece of masking tape on the ceiling...rotated the mirror...and marked the extremes of the dot's...
tom_krajci
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Jul 7, 2009
1:59 pm

I got this c8 because the price was right: I wanted the SP mount it came on. The c8 came with it. So I keep it specifically for these kinds of projects, as a...
gnowellsct
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Jul 8, 2009
4:54 pm

As an addendum, what about doing the "spin" on the baffle at the approximate focus point for visual use? Greg N...
gnowellsct
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Jul 8, 2009
4:55 pm

That doesn't matter. -John...
John Mahony
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Jul 8, 2009
5:27 pm

Greg I don't know if this will help you, but check out some of my post on my alignment of my C11 primary mirror. ...
Cleon Wells
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Jul 8, 2009
5:50 pm

Well, John could have added the reason ;-) you are merely testing to see how the mirror is mounted on the slider. While the "set" of points might be offset a...
P T Chambers
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Jul 8, 2009
7:54 pm

... He mentioned a hose clamp around the baffle tube below the mirror. ... Details here don't matter. If a sphere is tilted, all parts tilt by the same angle....
John Mahony
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Jul 8, 2009
5:25 pm

... Thinking about it a little more I realized it's not quite that simple, since as the mirror tilts that will also affect where the laser hits it. This...
John Mahony
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Jul 8, 2009
5:55 pm

For the newbies on board: This discussion is mainly of interest to those who want to/like to tinker with telescopes and (maybe) maximize their performance....
Rod Mollise
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Jul 8, 2009
9:11 pm

Thank you John for your comments. I guess I don't understand why an irregularity or tilt in the hose clamp would not affect the total travel of my laser beam....
gnowellsct
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Jul 8, 2009
6:40 pm

... The baffle tube provides the "even surface" to rotate around. The hose clamp is used to keep the mirror cell forward enough so parts on the back of it...
John Mahony
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Jul 9, 2009
4:10 am

Well OK Tom sent me an off-list note so you guys have persuaded me to give this a whirl. On a c8 I suppose I'm looking for what, maybe a 2 inch or 2.5 inch...
gnowellsct
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Jul 9, 2009
8:42 pm

... Some part of the hose clamp will make contact with the back end of the mirror cell...and that profile is probably pretty smooth/regular in shape. That...
tom_krajci
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Jul 10, 2009
3:13 am

... It depends on how much wobble you have...is it inside, or outside your tolerance for mirror alignment? If it's outside, you have to change the mirror tilt....
tom_krajci
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Jul 7, 2009
1:59 pm

... Like john said, you must spin the primary mirror on the baffle tube...shine a laser on the mirror...and see how much the reflected spot wobbles. (If you...
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