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1351
... thought you all might find the answers interesting. I didn't get that many, but they seem representative of what I've seen before. There is a lot of...
infamous1787
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Nov 1, 2007
2:51 pm
1352
Daniel, you may have missed the point, that there do exist SOME laws that you cannot secede from--I used the example of the laws against genocide, which I...
Roger Skutt
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Nov 1, 2007
2:51 pm
1353
Okay, let me clarify something I said in my post of just a few moments ago. Yes, it certainly is true that in my ideal world I do believe that the day will...
Roger Skutt
progrev
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Nov 1, 2007
2:51 pm
1354
... Since you're so eager to impose secession-exempt taxes on some people, why should I trust that your world government would to tolerate secession from other...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 1, 2007
6:06 pm
1355
... I think that's the wrong model. We don't need the state to define justice; the fact that every society has rules against murder and theft (at least...
Anton Sherwood
brontopithecus
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Nov 1, 2007
7:35 pm
1356
... Silly me -- the *first* response to genocide should be to arm the victims themselves. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 1, 2007
8:09 pm
1357
Yes; now so also then, in a stateless world where 10 million children die every year of poverty, the answer would be to ask for contributionsOOOPS! silly me,...
Roger Skutt
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Nov 2, 2007
12:21 pm
1358
My model is of government consisting of discussion groups open to all--that would be "a distributed, self-correcting, centerless web of autonomous...
Roger Skutt
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Nov 2, 2007
12:21 pm
1359
If and as the world gov't comes into existence, I'll be fighting for influence within it, and I hope all well-meaning people will be doing likewise. I suppose...
Roger Skutt
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Nov 2, 2007
12:21 pm
1360
... -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/...
Anton Sherwood
brontopithecus
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Nov 2, 2007
4:37 pm
1361
... Oh, your model is "centerless"? The final output of the discussion groups is not a single universal policy enforced on all? ... That much is true. ... ...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 2, 2007
4:44 pm
1362
Sorry about my garbage post a few minutes ago. I dunno what key I hit by accident. ... They won't have to, because they'll no longer have their own ...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 2, 2007
4:50 pm
1363
It's universal and centerless, because the universal laws are made by discussion groups everywhere, or by a universal plebiscite. Where is the "center" if...
Roger Skutt
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Nov 3, 2007
3:48 pm
1364
The struggle for Biafra continues --Uwazuruike LEONARD OKACHIE Mercy Shelley in The Cenci once said "I have drunken deep of joy, and I will taste no other wine...
Okechukwu Okonjo
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Nov 3, 2007
3:48 pm
1365
No rule of law without equqlity. No rule of law without equality' Leader of the Movement for and the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra...
Okechukwu Okonjo
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Nov 3, 2007
4:09 pm
1366
... children die ... contributionsOOOPS! ... their ... take on the ... The left believes markets and money are inherently exploitative. The right believes all...
BGreen
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Nov 3, 2007
4:38 pm
1367
How about, what Gore Vidal notably suggests, a five or ten per cent tax on net business profits? Something easy to calculate, easy to collect, which is never...
anatole noziere
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Nov 3, 2007
10:31 pm
1368
Majority rule is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on dinner. Quit forcing the sheep (minority) to subsidize (or be ruled by) the wolves (majority) and then you can...
Gned the Gnome
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Nov 3, 2007
11:42 pm
1369
. Excellent post. I trust you have no objection to my cc:'ing most of it to a couple of other groups I'm on that have had specific questions about FA/DP. In...
Gned the Gnome
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Nov 3, 2007
11:42 pm
1370
... The center is the locus of the final decision (even if it's not a physical place). It does not cease to be a center because its inputs come from...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 4, 2007
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1371
... I'd ask what you mean by "privilege" - legal distinction between classes of people, inequality of wealth, or something else - but that's off topic. -- ...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 4, 2007
3:10 am
1372
This left vs. right thing is very dated and very convoluted, unless you want to go back to the classic French Revolution viewpoint, in which case secessionists...
Scott
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Nov 4, 2007
2:28 pm
1373
Personally, I always thought Nader's suggestion of a 1 cent tax on securities trades sounded good. Thanks, Scott...
Scott
burp35_2000
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Nov 4, 2007
2:33 pm
1374
... the sheep (minority) to subsidize (or be ruled by) the wolves (majority) and then you can have freedom. The only universal Common Law you need is the...
BGreen
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Nov 4, 2007
3:47 pm
1375
... due. ... I believe the whole topic (as Jason said in an earlier post is off topic). Privi - private leges - laws bg...
BGreen
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Nov 4, 2007
3:52 pm
1376
The Tobin Tax. bg ... securities trades sounded good. ... tax on net business profits? Something easy to calculate, easy to collect, which is never...
BGreen
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Nov 4, 2007
3:52 pm
1377
... Heh, good one. If we could not rely on people to be honest most of the time, criminals' jobs would be harder. Trouble is that political rule perverts the...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 4, 2007
5:36 pm
1378
... Good for people who have an interest in discouraging such trades, e.g. overpaid managers. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/...
Anton Sherwood
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Nov 4, 2007
5:38 pm
1379
I repeat that ANY US or worldwide tax is a violation of sovereignty and thus fundamentally incompatible with secession. Once you have a US tax, someone must...
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suza2875
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Nov 4, 2007
5:57 pm
1380
Again with 'the left'... I know if I seceded and had my own country, I would consider a tax on securities trading. Thanks, Scott...
Scott
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Nov 4, 2007
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