... Why is perform:With:With:With: no longer acceptable? Doesn't that really mean that with should receive an array of objects? And really mean that it...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
May 1, 2001 8:59 pm
... That sounds like a good idea to me. One of the common problems with keyword argument lists is handling variable number of arguments. Your scheme takes care...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
May 2, 2001 12:10 am
... Well, my proposal was to generate argument names automatically from the keyword parts, so they would have to be all different. ...
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Tripp Lilley
tripp@...
May 2, 2001 6:47 am
http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html For some reason, this seems germane to the thread about redesigning Self, and other language design issues we've...
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Dru Nelson
dru@...
May 2, 2001 5:59 pm
Yes, Perl and Python do this as well....
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
May 2, 2001 9:44 pm
... Right, I thought Lua was different in that variable arg lists didn't have to be declared. But I checked the manual and they do need to be declared. ...
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Dru Nelson
dru@...
May 2, 2001 11:43 pm
Perl has a hidden variable that lets you access the args for that activation. Neat, but can be dangerous in the wrong hands.. Dru Nelson San Mateo, California...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
May 3, 2001 1:08 am
... I agree with just about everything Paul Graham wrote, except the part about macros. I mean, he is absolutely right that they were very important for Lisp...
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Toby Everett
tua@...
May 3, 2001 4:38 am
... Perl also supports prototypes, which allows the subroutine to "define" what sorts of things it expects, so as to allow the parser to make things behave ...
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Tripp Lilley
tripp@...
May 3, 2001 5:15 am
... Framer-D has a similar situation. In the C implementation of its "call" primitive, it has a switch statement based on the number of arguments, with a...
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Tripp Lilley
tripp@...
May 3, 2001 6:38 am
... I understand and agree with this motivation, but I also think that "making text a little prettier" pays dividends even when we -are- concentrating on ...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
May 4, 2001 12:27 am
... I was playing with a Color Forth today and thinking about this very issue. You can only see the code as it was intended within its own tools (though a...
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Joseph Osako
scholr@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:45 pm
Several months back, there had been a series of discussions about language constructs not related to those in Self, and about the possibility of designing a...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Jun 3, 2001 5:43 pm
-- Dear Selfers: I would like to know how to implement views in Self. Views are implemented as conditions in C++ and Sina (composition filters object model and...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Jun 3, 2001 5:45 pm
... Views and layers may also be implemented through created design patterns to do so. And I hope implemented in Self they become quite elegant and simple. ......
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jgrosjean@...
Jun 27, 2001 8:39 pm
I'm new to self and trying to find my way around. I don't have access to a computer that runs Self at home though and am looking for a way to export self code...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jun 27, 2001 10:14 pm
Jesse, if you execute inspect: traits morph you will get a reasonable print out in the terminal window where you started Self. Depending on the GUI you are...
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Jerome Lee
jlee0011@...
Jul 5, 2001 6:11 am
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ilyanov@...
Jul 6, 2001 11:12 am
Hi, I am new to Self and I downloaded the thing to run under OSX 10.04. When I try to execute the Demo.snap, I get the following exception Self: fatal error:...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jul 6, 2001 8:00 pm
I haven't used OSX myself, but this ... simply means that the Self program couldn't open the named file ("G4..snap") for reading. ... Before that, I would...
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Ned Konz
ned@...
Aug 2, 2001 4:19 am
Toby Everett and I have come up with a Perl module that gives Perl a Self-like object model. If you're interested in using prototype-based programming but...
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Toby Everett
tua@...
Aug 2, 2001 12:12 pm
... Just to make a side note, one of the things we have demonstrated through this is that it is possible to add prototype-based semantics to class-based ...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 2, 2001 9:31 pm
One small step for Self, a giant leap for Perlkind! ;-) Great job, guys. ... I am not sure about this. Most languages that are "loose enough" for this kind of...
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Ned Konz
ned@...
Aug 2, 2001 10:17 pm
... Thanks! ... The method we used was to make "uniclasses" for Self-like objects. This method is already used in a limited way in Squeak's eToy system to...
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Michael Lewis
lewis_michael@...
Aug 3, 2001 12:24 pm
So we'll be able so see OO code like: ###~///~~3~#$~324#3"$#£$3$34£"# = abd*^!1/g//; thanks to perl ;) ... __________________________________________________...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 7, 2001 4:52 pm
Dear Selfers: Some time ago by January, I promised I would make available the outcome of my readings. Well the final Scientific Report for Foundation of...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 8, 2001 12:04 am
... I would suggest that in the future it might be better for you to make the paper available somewhere on the web (you can even use ...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 8, 2001 6:50 pm
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: ... Sorry, since it is so few bytes I though t there would be no problem at all! ... Well to ask and respond questions, to dialogue...
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Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 8, 2001 11:06 pm
Hi! Self interested people! I used to run Self 4.0 on a Sun system. It was kinda fun, but a bit limited in some ways- portability was quite poor; and some of...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 9, 2001 5:19 pm
I am afraid I won't be able to give you more than a very short response and I am not sure most members of this list are interested in this discussion. ... Your...
