Toby Everett and I have come up with a Perl module that gives Perl a Self-like object model. If you're interested in using prototype-based programming but...
Ned Konz
ned@...
Aug 2, 2001 4:19 am
1088
... Just to make a side note, one of the things we have demonstrated through this is that it is possible to add prototype-based semantics to class-based ...
Toby Everett
tua@...
Aug 2, 2001 12:12 pm
1089
One small step for Self, a giant leap for Perlkind! ;-) Great job, guys. ... I am not sure about this. Most languages that are "loose enough" for this kind of...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 2, 2001 9:31 pm
1090
... Thanks! ... The method we used was to make "uniclasses" for Self-like objects. This method is already used in a limited way in Squeak's eToy system to...
Ned Konz
ned@...
Aug 2, 2001 10:17 pm
1091
So we'll be able so see OO code like: ###~///~~3~#$~324#3"$#£$3$34£"# = abd*^!1/g//; thanks to perl ;) ... __________________________________________________...
Michael Lewis
lewis_michael@...
Aug 3, 2001 12:24 pm
1092
Dear Selfers: Some time ago by January, I promised I would make available the outcome of my readings. Well the final Scientific Report for Foundation of...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 7, 2001 4:52 pm
1093
... I would suggest that in the future it might be better for you to make the paper available somewhere on the web (you can even use ...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 8, 2001 12:04 am
1094
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: ... Sorry, since it is so few bytes I though t there would be no problem at all! ... Well to ask and respond questions, to dialogue...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 8, 2001 6:50 pm
1095
Hi! Self interested people! I used to run Self 4.0 on a Sun system. It was kinda fun, but a bit limited in some ways- portability was quite poor; and some of...
Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 8, 2001 11:06 pm
1096
I am afraid I won't be able to give you more than a very short response and I am not sure most members of this list are interested in this discussion. ... Your...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 9, 2001 5:19 pm
1097
Ian, ... This is a cute idea which reminds me of the "value holders" ParcPlace introduced into its GUI classes. If you made the reference object point to its...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 9, 2001 8:34 pm
1098
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: ... For me this is too little!!! ... OK!!In this site you can find the paper in the conttext of the Object Oriented Architectural...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 12, 2001 9:59 pm
1099
... All languages need primitives. The point is to get the greatest expressibility from the primitives. ... Yes. More like: myNewButton: button new: Size:...
Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 13, 2001 9:14 pm
1100
... my feelings and expectations about Self. I am sure the graphical editor to design ecobuildings we designed together and you implemented it in Self is far...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 14, 2001 9:29 pm
1101
... Indeed, I was just wondering what your ":" brought us that we didn't have with Self's "<-". ... In Smalltalk there is the cascaded messages syntax: ...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 14, 2001 11:09 pm
1102
Albertina, their text editor is probably a little more complex than the graphical editor we implemented, and they had the extra complications of multiple ...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 14, 2001 11:21 pm
1103
... Several things- a) it can be used for privacy- by inheriting the handle object appropriately you can add checking into the object so that it only allows...
Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 15, 2001 12:45 am
1104
The following is copied from the web page: http://spair.swiki.net/21 (which also contains screenshot). It thought it may be of interest to the people on this...
Stephen Pair
spair@...
Aug 18, 2001 3:56 am
1105
Stephen, great job! I think that the missing piece (having the compiler generate the new bytecodes) isn't hard to do. But you would have to come up with a new ...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 20, 2001 5:39 pm
1106
... new ... No, not hard at all...but I'm not overly eager to work on that. ... Self. I thought that a resend in Self has a special syntax like "parent ...
Stephen Pair
spair@...
Aug 22, 2001 1:20 pm
1107
... Right! I was thinking about all messages to an object with automatic "delegation" and you were thinking about explicit delegation. The syntax is ...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 22, 2001 11:38 pm
1108
Better late than never, I suppose... ... Right. ... Hmmmm... this seems to me like the opposite of a). Here you are exposing things that would be better...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 22, 2001 11:57 pm
1109
... the ... I'd be interested in hearing those designs...I'm working on a design myself...I've been reading the Kaehler's LOOM stuff and that's been very...
Stephen Pair
spair@...
Aug 23, 2001 2:46 am
1110
... Well, it probably isn't worth cross posting here. I am not sure whether the thread should go on in the Squeak list either (in the thread "[Cross-space...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 23, 2001 4:22 pm
1111
... Uh. No that's down as the private method is found down the inheritance to A. The private method bit is the one to keep your eye on. Inheritance trees...
Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 23, 2001 5:47 pm
1112
... Brevity in a language is a very good thing. There is a good correlation between number of lines of code per week that engineers can write. ... It's...
Ian Woollard
ian.woollard@...
Aug 23, 2001 8:39 pm
1113
... Ok. While the arrow goes from the object to its parent, I like to draw the tree with the parent higher up. ... Agreed. ... This is what Self 1 and 2 had....
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 24, 2001 7:38 pm
1114
Dear Selfers: Something really honourable is the way the GOF strives to make things as clear and neat as possible: to really want to convey experience! Since...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Aug 25, 2001 6:40 pm
1115
Albertina, ... I think you ended up forgetting your question, for I didn't find it in the rest of the text. So I will suppose that you are interested in known...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 26, 2001 9:52 pm
1116
Jecel, I think very highly of all of your postings but this time I have to disagree. ... AFAIK, the original creator of MVC was Trygve Reenskaug and not the...
