Sorry for a bit off topic question, but I figured someone here would know - what was the Dan Ingalls' quote about operating systems? Something like "they...
... From the c2 wiki, http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?LanguagesAreOperatingSystems An operating system is a collection of things that don't fit into a language. ...
Reinout Heeck
reinz@...
Feb 3, 2004 10:37 am
1662
Here's a link to a quicktime version of the Self video: http://homepage.mac.com/stevedekorte/.cv/stevedekorte/Public/ Self_big.mov-binhex.hqx Could someone put...
... With that tool installed, you can just cat Self_big.mov-binhex.hqx | hexbin -f generating a 88MB .data file (which you should rename to just .mov) and two...
... I didn't. .Mac does that when you upload files. I don't understand why. Maybe I need to strip any resource forks first? ... I asked Dave Ungar (or was it...
... It might be their way of keeping people from playing the files directly from their site - this way they force you to download it. ... Just the plain .mov...
Does anyone have Self running on Panther? I just tried 4.2, and the UI never came up. Here's the output I got: for PPC: FastMapTest = false for PPC:...
As a follow up, how does one debug a problem like this? I'm familiar with OS X (not so much with carbon, but I could figure out what I needed to know), and...
Josh, We have Self on Panther, and have been thinking about doing a release. For now, if you contact Adam Spitz, (adam.spitz@...), we ought to be able to...
David Ungar
David.Ungar@...
Feb 13, 2004 8:34 am
1672
... My mother just got a new eMac with Panther and I got Self 4.2 to run on it this morning (I had a lot of trouble defining the SELF_WORKING_DIR variable in...
Hi Selfers! Could you please tell me difference between a shared whiteboard and Kansas the virtual programming realidade of Self? BEst wishes Albertina ...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Feb 16, 2004 8:17 pm
1675
A whiteboard contains marks, but Kansas contains objects you can move, click on to activate, take apart, and reprogram. Kansas is supposed to feel like a...
Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Feb 16, 2004 9:35 pm
1676
Randy Smith wrote: Hi Randy! ... YOu mean a whiteboard is infinite like Kansas? I want to know how can one conceive a "kansas" or a whiteboard? Thank you! Best...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Feb 16, 2004 10:34 pm
1677
Hi, (This is going to be longer email about Self integration into other environments.) First, let me introduce myself. I am Stefan Urbanek and I am developing...
Hi Steve, ... Thanks for the reference. I have looked at it and it seems to be interesting, however it is not quite what i was looking for. It has more...
... The syntax is actually much simpler than Self, but Io certainly a less mature implementation. However, it does have bindings to media libraries that Self...
Dear Selfers! I am curious if there are any relationship between Kansas and Tcl, both from Sun! Best wishes Albertina http://www.lsi.usp.br/~lourenci...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 4, 2004 7:10 pm
1682
TCL already existed before John Osterhaut (spelling?) joined Sun, and while Tcl was here, there was very little mutual influence between the Self and TCL...
Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Mar 4, 2004 10:26 pm
1683
Randy Smith wrote: Hi Randy! John K. Ousterhout in IEEE Computer March 1998 writes: I am not aware of any rapid-development environments for GUIs based on a...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 4:05 pm
1684
Okay Albertina, I'll try to respond for you here: Self's GUI was never tuned to being like Motif or being fully brought up to address the construction of stand...
Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Mar 5, 2004 6:56 pm
1685
Randy Smith wrote: Thanks Randy! Indeed in the same paper Ousterhout recognizes there are many interesting languages that cannot be characterized cleanly as a...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 8:30 pm
1686
... Just to reinforce this idea by saying the same thing in slightly different words: if you define as a basic parameter of your project that it will run as a...
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Hi Jecel! ... I see your viewpoint. ... I miss the point here. Semiotically speaking there may be different forms for the same...
Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 10:32 pm
1688
... Just to add a note to this... Self does not have any working GUI/app framework that would be sufficient for creating an usable application. And as I see...
Stefan Urbanek wrote: Dear Stefan! See below! ... Scripting languages and system programming languages are complementary, and most major computing platforms...
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