Dear Selfers! I am curious if there are any relationship between Kansas and Tcl, both from Sun! Best wishes Albertina http://www.lsi.usp.br/~lourenci...
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Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Mar 4, 2004 10:26 pm
TCL already existed before John Osterhaut (spelling?) joined Sun, and while Tcl was here, there was very little mutual influence between the Self and TCL...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 4:05 pm
Randy Smith wrote: Hi Randy! John K. Ousterhout in IEEE Computer March 1998 writes: I am not aware of any rapid-development environments for GUIs based on a...
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Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Mar 5, 2004 6:56 pm
Okay Albertina, I'll try to respond for you here: Self's GUI was never tuned to being like Motif or being fully brought up to address the construction of stand...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 8:30 pm
Randy Smith wrote: Thanks Randy! Indeed in the same paper Ousterhout recognizes there are many interesting languages that cannot be characterized cleanly as a...
... Just to reinforce this idea by saying the same thing in slightly different words: if you define as a basic parameter of your project that it will run as a...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 5, 2004 10:32 pm
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Hi Jecel! ... I see your viewpoint. ... I miss the point here. Semiotically speaking there may be different forms for the same...
... Just to add a note to this... Self does not have any working GUI/app framework that would be sufficient for creating an usable application. And as I see...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 6, 2004 9:44 am
Stefan Urbanek wrote: Dear Stefan! See below! ... Scripting languages and system programming languages are complementary, and most major computing platforms...
... This link appears to be broken. I think might really help in getting people to try and use Self if: - when you download Self on OSX, it would be one file...
Albertina, ... <snip> ... Well ... nobody here has doubts. You know about the power, people on this list know, I do and perhaps very-very few others, but that...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 7, 2004 11:43 pm
Stefan Urbanek wrote: Hi Stef! ... to design and plan sustainable cities. Many interesting applications will stop because computer science is still crawling! ...
hi! i need help obviously.. i'm doing a research paper on Self, about what it is(like its details, etc).. i was wondering could i ever use self on a microsoft...
... It should be possible to run Self in Windows, but I have never tried it. If you look at the download section of http://www.merlintec.com:8080/Self/ you...
thank you very much.. i think i will just rely on published papers about self... ... It should be possible to run Self in Windows, but I have never tried it. ...
... The problem is that there are two contexts, with some forms used in one and others used in the other. That makes programming more awkward than it should...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 13, 2004 5:59 pm
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Dear Jecel! ... Is the main difference between syntax for literal and graphical objects that the latter is interactive? ... I put...
... The main difference is that, in existing systems, they are used in different places. The graphical object normally (but not always) is interactive while we...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 15, 2004 10:19 pm
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Hi Jecel! ... Of course for graphical designers this makes no sense! What I understand by graphical syntax is something like the GUI,...
... It is an example of a textual notation, not a graphical one. ... My point exactly. ... I am typing this in an application running in a GUI, yet can't use...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Mar 16, 2004 3:19 pm
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Hi Jecel! ... And this confirms my viewpoints there is no one-to-one mapping. Different functionalities are involved. ... I see! It...
sirs, does anyone know how to use JSelf (the java implementation of Self) on winXP? It's for my school project. Help would be very much appreciated. Thank...
"Self: the Movie;" files have been moved to a server with a better connection to the internet. While they were on my machine last week, a weblog entry ...
... The two Quicktime versions (30 and 81MB) are the ones I got from there, as indicated on the Self swiki page. I only expanded it (actually it became...
... Oh, ok. ... That's cool - thanks. If it becomes available from a reliably "permanent" location (say, sun.com), I'll take mine down to free up my iDisk...
... Brian Rice pointed out in a reply in that list that previous versions did work with MacOS X but check the release note for the changes (the main ones are...
The previous (4.2) release works on my G3 iBook running Panther. But 4.2.1 crashes at startup with Self VM fatal error ...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Apr 14, 2004 3:20 pm
Jonathan Sillito wrote: Dear Jonathan! ... produced what might be called a "pearl of immanent knowledge". Sure the beauty of Vancouver enables you to contact...
