Diego Gomez Deck wrote: The thing is getting better... ... -- ... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luis Campos de...
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Douglas M. Auclair
dauclair@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:33 pm
Hello, all. I'm Doug Auclair; I'd like to help the porting effort of SELF. It seems the source is not at self.sunlabs.com (the just have a binary in the tar...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:36 pm
Diego Gomez Deck wrote:
> > One very simple Home Page for the JSelf project has borned in http://www.ConsultAr.com/JSelf
> > All of you are invited...
Once...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:57 pm
... Doesn't Java count as Java a "huge plug-in"? :-) I know Netscape is moving it to the plug-in side, at least. And Java is certainly huge in size and...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:16 pm
The principal idea behind the JSelf porting is not to execute in a browser.... (This is a secondary efect) The ideas will be writed soon in a document called...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:23 pm
The principal idea to make the Java classes available to the JSelf environment is to show the Java classes as a set of Self Objects: one trait that represent...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:26 pm
I'd like to make the JSelf project GNU, but I'm not sure about the licenses implication of use the sunlabs sources as base of the developing. Any of you know...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 5, 1998 2:16 am
... Very true, technically. But it feels very different since it comes in the same download or CD-ROM as the browser itself. Another difference is that it is...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 5, 1998 2:17 am
This is a general discussion list about Self, so not everyone will be
interested in hearing about the virtual machine's internals. I promised
I would say a...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Nov 5, 1998 6:33 pm
... I'm interested in the details of the hard way. I see a problem with the slow way - If Java is 10x slower than C, and a JSelf within Java is 10x slower than...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 6, 1998 6:42 pm
... Even a simple Self interpreter written in C would be to slow for pratical use. On page 31 of Urs' thesis there is a discussion of the peformance of a Self...
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Douglas Atique
datique@...
Nov 7, 1998 1:21 pm
Jecel, Thanks for the explanation. I have been trying to do what you told for some time, but I didn`t link the code to the articles` contents so as to get this...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Nov 12, 1998 7:21 pm
During the oral presentation of my PHD thesis on 10 November I was questioned by a young researcher in computer graphics if Kansas was indeed a multi-user...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Nov 13, 1998 1:03 pm
... Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:29:46 -0800 From: David Ungar <David.Ungar@...> To: Randy Smith <Randall.Smith@...>, randall.smith@..., ...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 18, 1998 6:20 pm
I tried to send this to the list from the university yesterday, but it seems that it didn't make it. Here is a very short report about making Java run on a...
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David Ungar
David.Ungar@...
Nov 19, 1998 1:45 am
You might want to check with John Maloney at Disney before completely giving up. - Dave ... - Dave David Ungar Sun Microsystems Laboratories (650) 336-2618 ......
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Douglas Michael Auclair
dauclair@...
Nov 19, 1998 3:45 am
Hello, all, I got processing time on an Ultra2 and installed SELF. The VM comes up fine, but the ui2 window is this big, blank white thing that does respond...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 19, 1998 6:07 am
... Do you mean that he had a patch for UI2 to work with "true colors" or that I should look at what he has done in Squeak? In the latter case, Squeak Morphic...
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Randy Smith
Randall.Smith@...
Nov 19, 1998 9:34 pm
... I don't think John had such a patch. The assumption of 8 bit color map is spread around a bit in the UI2 paint model, so for now the only realistic option...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 21, 1998 12:59 am
Ok, I made a quick and very dirty patch to allow Self to run on 16 and 32 (24, actually) bit per pixel displays. Unfortunately there is a bug in the image/mask...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Dec 10, 1998 8:11 am
I was reading the self grammar. Am I right in assuming that... doIt. or a: setSlot: 'x' With: doIt. works, by having the receiver of the unary message doIt...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Dec 10, 1998 6:30 pm
... I am not sure if this is what you are asking, but typing doIt at the prompt (or in an evaluator in the graphical user interface) is indeed parsed as the...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Dec 10, 1998 11:06 pm
Hi, This does answer the questions. However, what I really was trying to find out (what I should have asked), was how does this correspond to the grammar...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Dec 22, 1998 11:46 am
Hi! I was trying to understand the Self grammar to implement a Self parser. I failed. Now I've a couple of questions regarding the ambiguities of the ...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Dec 22, 1998 2:54 pm
... It's bad habit to quote oneself, but I'd like to add that b) isn't an issue anymore. I overlooked paragraph 2.4.5 which explicitely removes | and ^ from...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Dec 22, 1998 7:47 pm
Hi Stefan, I'm working on a parser too. So far, I've only implemented the lexer portion. Your recent email on that shows that you have discovered how to handle...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Dec 22, 1998 9:46 pm
Dru, ... Perhaps I should tell you a little bit more about my program. I used VisualWorks smalltalk to implement the parser. A "SelfScanner" class implements...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Dec 29, 1998 9:54 am
... [Using VW Smalltalk ... Is this from T Gen or something else? Sounds neat. ... Yeah, I finished my lexer and it is time for the parser and code gen. I...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Dec 29, 1998 11:11 am
... It's something else. I wrote scanner and parser from scratch without any generator program. No big deal for a grammar as small as for Self. ... No comment...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Dec 30, 1998 9:25 pm
Hi! I've set up a web page for my first version of ``mySelf´´, my Self parser and simulator written in Smalltalk! If you like, check out ...
