Thanks. I don't have an actual linux machine myself at the moment - I'm just working off vmware. Preliminary play with the latest Ubuntu seems to get most of...
1999
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 4, 2008 12:01 pm
OK, I have a compiled executable on Ubuntu 8.10. Woohoo! At the moment it loads the Demo snapshot, but the desktop doesn't come up. This presumably means...
2000
Adam Spitz
adspitz
Jun 4, 2008 5:41 pm
... That's great! Did you have to make any changes to the code? (If so, what?) Or was it just a matter of getting the right libraries and stuff installed? Adam...
2001
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 5, 2008 10:56 am
I changed a reference in $SELF_WORKING_DIR/vm/linux/makeDeps.cpp to the gcc version from 4.1 to 4.2. Also I did "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libncurses.a...
2002
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 11, 2008 9:39 am
Hi, So I have worked out that I can load my module with: bootstrap read: 'webserver' from: 'applications' and file it out with: modules webserver fileOut Is...
2003
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jeceljr
Jun 13, 2008 8:07 pm
... I don't think this has been implemented. Given the annotations that every module has, this should be a lot easier to do than when you file in stuff with...
2004
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 15, 2008 8:44 am
Thanks Jecel. Sounds like something I'll have to come back to....
2005
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 15, 2008 8:47 am
It is now winter, and grey is getting me down; so I made a module to make my self snapshot more colourful. This turned out to involve wading through the...
2006
Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jeceljr
Jun 16, 2008 7:03 pm
Russell, Morphic did become far more colorful when it moved in Squeak. I liked this but many people were very critical of it and some even refused to even try...
2007
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jun 17, 2008 9:53 am
I deployed a Squeak app to a classroom of uni students back in 2001 (2002?) and the major issue wasn't the colours so much as the lack of consistency in the...
2008
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Aug 22, 2008 12:25 pm
Hello, I'm interested in making a number of improvements/changes to Self, not for any particular commercial motive but out of general interest in Self and its...
2009
erikterpstra
Sep 10, 2008 6:18 pm
On Ubuntu Linux 8.10 I get the following error: ./Self -s Empty.snap Welcome to the Self system! (Version 4.1.5) Copyright 1992-2002 Sun Microsystems, Inc....
2010
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Sep 11, 2008 3:27 am
Hi Erik, I'm assuming you're using the linux vm from gliebe.de/self - or have you compiled your own from the sourceforge.net cvs tree? Something seems to have...
2011
Jeff Brown
xeeyore42
Sep 19, 2008 7:56 pm
Why not build a Self interpreter on the .Net Dynamic Language Runtime? Sure, the performance won't be as good as native but you'll get more portability in the...
2012
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Sep 21, 2008 10:15 am
Hi Jeff, There have been attempts to get Self running on the JVM (which I am more familiar with since it is open source and cross platform); as you indicated,...
2013
Michael Latta
michaellatta
Sep 21, 2008 5:03 pm
The DLR (the layer on the CLR designed for dynamic languages) adds support for dynamic languages and packages up some of the concerns, which on the JVM you...
2014
Toby Ovod-Everett
tovodeverett
Sep 22, 2008 4:49 am
... Speaking of JavaScript, did anyone notice the reference to Self in the design docs for V8? V8 is the new JavaScript engine that Google wrote for Chrome. ...
2015
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Sep 22, 2008 5:18 am
Javascript is still single-threaded isn't it? Or has V8 changed that? Russell On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:49:48 +1000, Toby Ovod-Everett...
2016
Chris Double
chris@...
Sep 22, 2008 7:09 am
... V8 supports running JavaScript on multiple threads, but not at the same time. So a script running on one thread will pause while a script is running on...
2017
Mario Wolczko
mwolczko2
Sep 23, 2008 2:17 am
... Unsurprising, since Lars Bak worked on both the Self VM and was the principal on V8....
2018
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Sep 30, 2008 2:43 am
Hi guys, I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources. The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of...
2019
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Oct 23, 2008 10:57 pm
Hi guys, In the end it turned out to be really simple, requiring almost no changes to the Self build system or code. After building a new snapshot from the CVS...
2020
Michael Latta
michaellatta
Oct 23, 2008 11:10 pm
Russell, Are your changes turned over to CVS for the Mac changes? Will there be a packaged version prebuilt for those of us that are lazy? Michael...
2021
Randy Smith
randall.smith@...
Oct 23, 2008 11:28 pm
Way cool! Good work! --Randy...
2022
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Oct 24, 2008 5:38 am
Hi Michael, The Mac changes are already in CVS - you just need to build a new VM+Snapshot. I didn't make any changes myself. In terms of building the linux vm,...
2023
J. Baltasar GarcĂ...
baltasarq
Oct 24, 2008 7:35 am
Hi ! Congrats for that work. It's a pitty that the snapshots are no longer compatible with the new VM's ... I guess this has to do with the kind of persistence...
2024
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Oct 24, 2008 8:26 am
Hi Baltasar, Strictly speaking, the snapshots per se are still compatible but since the new VM has different primitives to the 4.3 vm, the gui on a 4.3...
2025
Josh Flowers
josh_flowers...
Oct 28, 2008 4:24 pm
Given the actual nature of the Optimization I'd put quotes around the word, but if memory serves Strunk or White say that's bad style. Anyways to improve...
2026
Russell Allen
russell.allen23
Jan 25, 2009 6:50 am
Dear all, As part of an effort to get Self moving again and as a precursor to a new release, we now have a new official Self website at: ...
2027
Adam Spitz
adspitz
Jan 26, 2009 12:34 am
Russell, thanks for doing all of this stuff! It's about time we had our own domain name. :) I've set up the old website (self.sourceforge.net) to redirect to...
