Welcome to the new self-interest mailing list! The question that I get most often about Self is: who is using it? I am (in fact, I just got myself a new Ultra...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 17, 1998 7:36 pm
I am putting all the little patches I need to make Self 4.0 work right as modules in a special patches directory. So far I have: canvasPatches.self : fixes a...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 20, 1998 2:09 am
One of the main complaints I hear about Self is that it takes up too much memory (the other is that it only runs on Sparcs). Since I see people buying entry...
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Douglas Atique
datique@...
Oct 20, 1998 4:24 pm
Hello, everyone. Let me introduce myself. I consider myself new to Self though I first heard about it in 1996. I got interested in its philosophy of simplicity...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Oct 20, 1998 4:48 pm
Hello all: I have just read Douglas's message. I do think it would be better if everybody introduces oneself. We would know about each one's interest in Self...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 21, 1998 5:14 am
Douglas , Since you have already read a lot of the Self papers as well as at least one of the thesis about the Self compilers, I am assuming you want a more...
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Gregory Burd
gburd@...
Oct 23, 1998 4:10 pm
Greetings all, My name is Greg Burd, I work for Sun. I used to work in the JavaSoft division, now I write software to generate excitement in emerging markets....
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 26, 1998 6:39 am
... Thanks, but I wonder if you are talking about the C parser thing (which I renamed tinySelf 0) or the one in Self (tinySelf 1). The former doesn't do...
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Douglas Atique
datique@...
Oct 27, 1998 7:05 pm
Hello, Jecel, everyone. Well, I would like both theoretical and practical explanations. I have read papers but it is not necessarily true that I understood it...
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Diego Gomez Deck
diegog@...
Oct 28, 1998 9:54 pm
Where can I download the Linux version of TinySelf??? (|diego. gomez. deck|) ... Free e-mail group hosting at http://www.eGroups.com/ ... Subscribe,...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 29, 1998 4:31 am
I'll make some comments on the Self implementation tomorrow, but I would like to reproduce here a message I sent to the "chipcon" list at the old Byte site and...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Oct 29, 1998 11:29 pm
Hello,
I started a Self implementation dependent of the Java VM.
In a few days, will be a web site to visit.
I'd like to known your opinion.
TIA
(|diego....
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Pablo J. E. Rodriguez
rodablo@...
Oct 30, 1998 4:22 am
... Really? When will you think can run some code? ... Subscribe, unsubscribe, opt for a daily digest, or start a new e-group at http://www.eGroups.com -- Free...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Oct 30, 1998 4:35 am
... If you mean a version of Self that run on a normal Java VM, that is a very good idea any many people have written to me in the past suggesting that I do...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Oct 30, 1998 8:58 pm
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Oct 31, 1998 9:56 pm
One very simple Home Page for the JSelf project has borned in http://www.ConsultAr.com/JSelf All of you are invited... (|diego. gomez. deck|) ... Free e-mail...
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Luis Campos de Carvalho
campos@...
Nov 4, 1998 2:09 am
Diego Gomez Deck wrote: The thing is getting better... ... -- ... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luis Campos de...
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Douglas M. Auclair
dauclair@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:33 pm
Hello, all. I'm Doug Auclair; I'd like to help the porting effort of SELF. It seems the source is not at self.sunlabs.com (the just have a binary in the tar...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:36 pm
Diego Gomez Deck wrote:
> > One very simple Home Page for the JSelf project has borned in http://www.ConsultAr.com/JSelf
> > All of you are invited...
Once...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Nov 4, 1998 6:57 pm
... Doesn't Java count as Java a "huge plug-in"? :-) I know Netscape is moving it to the plug-in side, at least. And Java is certainly huge in size and...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:16 pm
The principal idea behind the JSelf porting is not to execute in a browser.... (This is a secondary efect) The ideas will be writed soon in a document called...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:23 pm
The principal idea to make the Java classes available to the JSelf environment is to show the Java classes as a set of Self Objects: one trait that represent...
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Diego Gomez Deck
DiegoG@...
Nov 4, 1998 10:26 pm
I'd like to make the JSelf project GNU, but I'm not sure about the licenses implication of use the sunlabs sources as base of the developing. Any of you know...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 5, 1998 2:16 am
... Very true, technically. But it feels very different since it comes in the same download or CD-ROM as the browser itself. Another difference is that it is...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 5, 1998 2:17 am
This is a general discussion list about Self, so not everyone will be
interested in hearing about the virtual machine's internals. I promised
I would say a...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Nov 5, 1998 6:33 pm
... I'm interested in the details of the hard way. I see a problem with the slow way - If Java is 10x slower than C, and a JSelf within Java is 10x slower than...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Nov 6, 1998 6:42 pm
... Even a simple Self interpreter written in C would be to slow for pratical use. On page 31 of Urs' thesis there is a discussion of the peformance of a Self...
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Douglas Atique
datique@...
Nov 7, 1998 1:21 pm
Jecel, Thanks for the explanation. I have been trying to do what you told for some time, but I didn`t link the code to the articles` contents so as to get this...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Nov 12, 1998 7:21 pm
During the oral presentation of my PHD thesis on 10 November I was questioned by a young researcher in computer graphics if Kansas was indeed a multi-user...
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Albertina Lourenci
lourenci@...
Nov 13, 1998 1:03 pm
... Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:29:46 -0800 From: David Ungar <David.Ungar@...> To: Randy Smith <Randall.Smith@...>, randall.smith@..., ...
