Yes, I think its cool too; I've not been able to do more than read about Self, but having raided the old Sun site a few months ago, it seems like a very clean...
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David Ungar
David.Ungar@...
Aug 5, 1999 9:51 pm
Yes, HotSpot was an intellectual descendant of the Self VM work, and some of its key personnel were former Selfies. Jason, do you have access to a fairly...
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Gilad Bracha
gilad.bracha@...
Aug 5, 1999 9:55 pm
... Please do post any details you can (without, of course, disclosing anything proprietary). Cheers, Gilad ********************************************* ...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Aug 5, 1999 10:07 pm
... Is an iMac(w/64M) good enough? Steve...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 6, 1999 12:49 pm
... If the answer is yes, then I know where I can kidnap a machine like that :-) -- Jecel...
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Jochen Schneider
josch@...
Aug 6, 1999 1:41 pm
... Sorry for being nosy: Is there a Self for it? Or HotSpot? Jochen Gre, Jochen ... Jochen Schneider (josch@...) ...
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Jason Karney
jason@...
Aug 6, 1999 2:08 pm
I can borrow a PowerBook 3400 if that's recent enough... although if I'm really nice, I can beg a G3 book... So is there a good incentive for me to borrow one...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 6, 1999 6:39 pm
... Don't worry about that - all information about it will be available on the web under two licenses (see the end of the page on...
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David Ungar
David.Ungar@...
Aug 10, 1999 12:01 am
I have been working on a Self port to the Mac for a while now, and it is starting to limp along. It is hard for me to know at what point I should divert time...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 10, 1999 2:02 am
I have been thinking about resends, lately. I don't like them as they are. Here is the statistics for the bytecodes for the 26339 methods in the standard...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Aug 10, 1999 3:51 am
... I'd love to play with it when the UI is running. I'd even find it usefull for writing server applications if it was running under Mac OS X. I'd also be...
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David N. Smith (IBM)
dnsmith@...
Aug 10, 1999 9:41 pm
... Dave: I'd certainly use it, and it might be a good excuse to upgrade my PPC 9500/200. I also suspect that it something that basically worked was out, then ...
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maria
mpato@...
Aug 19, 1999 6:22 pm
Hello everybody, I am Maryah and I have finished an aplication on self, now I want to write some documentation about my work and I have a question: - How can...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 19, 1999 9:36 pm
... If you want to generate a graphical view of your objects to include in your documentation, you can use the Solaris application called "Snapshot"; to capture...
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maria
mpato@...
Aug 25, 1999 11:28 am
... thanks for yur help!...now I have another question... Is possible to print the object of my system like text. Maryah....
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 28, 1999 6:29 pm
I decided to check out if the compact encoding I proposed a while ago (with two bits per instruction mixed in the the literals) was a good idea or not. So...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 28, 1999 6:46 pm
... If you just execute the expression inspect: someObject you will get something that is probably close to what you want. Looking at the object...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 29, 1999 1:06 pm
Hi! ... I think, this was your encoding: 00 NON_LOCAL_RETURN 01 PUSH_NEXT_LITERAL 10 SEND_NEXT_LITERAL 11 SELF_SEND_NEXT_LITERAL (or end of method marker,...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 29, 1999 5:05 pm
Hi! In Smalltalk, you'd overwrite #doesNotUnderstand, if you want an object which understands messages to access something like slots you could define at...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 29, 1999 5:05 pm
Hi! For mySelf, I want to slightly change the Self grammar as follows... expression = keywordMessage. keywordMessage= binaryMessage {keywordSend} | resend...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 29, 1999 5:05 pm
Hi! Currently, my interpreter lookup all methods every time they are called. I'd like to cache this somehow, but I'm unsure whether this works as lined out...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 29, 1999 5:05 pm
Hi! ... Which made me think about the encoding again. We can use these numbers to do some math. Yeah! A Self method object looks like this, I think: (|...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 29, 1999 8:38 pm
... Great idea! It is interesting that this was what I did in my 1984 bytecodeless Smalltalk (http://www.lsi.usp.br/~jecel/st84.txt). Your C code for parsing...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 30, 1999 7:44 pm
Using the "." for resends was a very unfortunate decision, and your idea to replace it with "$" is a good one. I had suggested using "::" since several other...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Aug 30, 1999 9:09 pm
... I know. Perhaps it's a matter of personal taste. printString = (parent::printString + '()') -vs- printString = (parent$printString + '()') IMHO, the first...
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Randy Smith
Randall.Smith@...
Aug 30, 1999 9:12 pm
I must also say that even after programming in Smalltalk for years, I never missed not having cascades in Self. Maybe they just don't happen that often? At any...
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David Ungar
David.Ungar@...
Aug 30, 1999 9:28 pm
It's great that you are thinking about this stuff. Syntax is so subjective.... but here are my two cents: the dollar-sign ($) has always seemed rather noisy to...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 30, 1999 10:02 pm
... I got the following to work as you wanted. It took me a long time to find out how the process object handles undefined messages - it is not very efficient...
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Steve Dekorte
steve@...
Aug 30, 1999 11:11 pm
... A number of other dynamic scripting languages have also taken up the C++ prefix message syntax. Python: target.message() Lua: target.message() Perl:...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Aug 31, 1999 1:29 pm
... As far as I can tell, this syntax originated with Apple's Object Pascal (I don't know what Simula looked like). Since the idea was that objects were...
