I'm back from vacation and only now reading my December email. I'm glad to see people having fun with the Self syntax. As you have already found out, '^' and...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 6, 1999 6:49 pm
... Then SELF 1.0 had no '( expr )' at all. Everything in () was a new object, however only objects in slot definitions got a 'self' slot. Right? ... Which is...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 7, 1999 1:45 am
... Yes, but these inner methods had an invisible "lexical parent" slot just like block method contexts do. Another strange thing in Self 1.0 was that the...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 7, 1999 7:44 pm
... Well, for the evaluation function, you need to at least detect methods and blocks as one need to clone them and create an activation object. How are these...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 7, 1999 9:56 pm
... I doubt. I looked through the code and it looks more than Squeak than anything else. The code uses all that old MVC stuff of Forms, DisplayScreen and so...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 11, 1999 2:01 am
... You could have several map subclasses and use that instead of a class. Blocks and Methods would do the right thing when you sent the exact same message to...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 11, 1999 7:39 pm
... Yes, but... well, I tried to immitate the implementation as described in the various papers and this can't have map classes, just simple chunks of map...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 12, 1999 7:15 pm
... Actually, one of the first words in a map is the C++ VTable - its runtime type (class)! ... Squeak was OO the last time I checked ;-) but if you mean that...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 13, 1999 10:39 pm
... I see! Pretty obvious actually. Probably that "i didn't see the forest because of all that trees" problem. ... It was? Amaising :-) But you guessed right,...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 14, 1999 8:06 pm
I was showing a friend, Kyle Hayes, Self 4.0 but wasn't able to get the web browser to work. I had had this problem before and had tracked it down to a DNS...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 14, 1999 8:06 pm
... You are probably right that Self objects could be the same format as Squeak objects with no problems at all. ObjectMemory is a lot more complex than it...
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Hacker, David
David.Hacker@...
Jan 14, 1999 8:10 pm
... eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 14, 1999 9:27 pm
... Wait. I'm comparing byte codes, disregarding any additonal constraints of the Smalltalk language. As instance variables and temporary variables are ...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 15, 1999 5:15 pm
... Ooops - you are right. Otherwise this isn't possible: frame "returns my current frame" ^ frame ... Ooops again! Yes, it would be easier simply to have...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Jan 15, 1999 11:02 pm
Where is a good reference on Self maps? Also, the grammar talk and implementation talk has been interesting. Keep it up. Dru Nelson Redwood City, California ...
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Stefan Matthias Aust
sma@...
Jan 16, 1999 11:28 am
... I used the paper Chambers, Ungar and Lee, "An Efficient Implementation of SELF, [...]", 1991. Another source might be the source code of the VM itself. ...
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Gordon@...
Jan 18, 1999 1:12 pm
Hi all, I am so terribly fed up with C++, I really would like to write real programs in a better programming language. Fortunately, the source code of Self is...
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Dru Nelson
dnelson@...
Jan 18, 1999 6:04 pm
... I urge you to go to www.opensource.com and check out the other licenses besides the GPL. ... eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free...
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Jochen Schneider
josch@...
Jan 19, 1999 12:22 pm
That would be way cool, Self on a PC. Keep up the good work, Gordon! Another project done by an angry programmer ... By the way, there is a repository of...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 19, 1999 5:21 pm
... Ooops - I reread the smalltalk.ps document and saw that cascades aren't mentioned at all. I guess I was thinking of non-lifo blocks, but I see that even...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 19, 1999 5:36 pm
... Good choice! ... This is an interesting trend. In the mid 90s, there were several people working on Self-like languages - Self itself was considered to be...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 19, 1999 5:36 pm
... Good advice. I had a discussion with a friend who is really interested in Open Source code and he said that I couldn't release a product based on Self...
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mario.wolczko@...
Jan 20, 1999 6:38 pm
<36a4a251.7f76d6d-@...> wrote: Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/self-interest/?start=67 ... It's a collection of papers on the subject. I...
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Gordon Cichon
Gordon@...
Jan 21, 1999 1:00 am
Hi, I made a little progress at the Self/Linux port. :-) I was just able to evaluate the first Self expression ... OK. It is not really spectacular, I have to...
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dauclair@...
Jan 21, 1999 1:00 am
... BZ! Keep at it; please let us know when you have a working port. ... Woohoo! Will you have the linux self available from a web site? How can we get your...
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dnelson@...
Jan 21, 1999 3:00 am
Yeah I think this is good. ... eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com...
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James Noble
kjx@...
Jan 21, 1999 6:05 am
... I think that most of the papers (certainly a majority) are new. To whet your appetite, here is the table of contents. The book is with the publisher ---...
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wolfe@...
Jan 21, 1999 5:51 pm
I wonder whether, with some 'fairly minor' changes to the language syntax, Self might a really good, quite high performance scripting language. The...
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Jecel Assumpcao Jr
jecel@...
Jan 21, 1999 6:25 pm
This looks good. Here is a file that might help you: http://www.lsi.usp.br/~jecel/release/fac.self This was created by Ole Agesen using his amazing type...
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Randy Smith
Randall.Smith@...
Jan 21, 1999 7:54 pm
... For a long time at Sun we tried to sell a concept we called "The Green Blur." I can't recall the origin of the color, but it had to do with making Self...
