crisis ! ! S O ...V....AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa, "NOBODY IS PERFECT" SERVICE ORIENTATION ! - Michael ________________________________ From: Anne Thomas Manes...
... Agree on the sentiments behind "SOA is dead". Disagree on the "long live services". It is service-orientation, as conventionally understood, that got us...
... live services". ... into the fragmentation ... Nick -- What do you mean by "entity-specific (service) methods" ? Do you mean a service that is equated with...
... Businesses are service oriented, businesses deliver services. ... Would you really say that Google, Amazon and SFDC are "spectacular gains" in terms of...
... True. But not necessarily in a sense that corresponds to SOA "services". Consider a "full service" Hospital. It can be regarded as providing the following...
... Well my trite answer is "b(u)y my book". My longer one is that for me these have _always_ been what I've seen as the services and the job of IT is to...
... The UKs NHS IT programme attempted to centralise patient records and its going "oh so well". Its (IMO) a good example of where IT tries to work against...
... these have _always_ been what ... appropriate to that service. Well, I took your advice and read your book. It has lots of good stuff, and I agree that...
... From experience you don't want to start there as you need something for the "Why" to be attached to. In terms of how long it should take. If you have a...
... Yes, I think I do have a different WHY. Here is a list (not exhaustive or mutually exclusive) of business aims whose realisation may entail an SOA effort...
... Whether or not there is a gap depends, I would think, on what level of architecture one is referring to. At the BA level, does not business service equate...
... services.html ... live ... that got ... methods. ... post does ... portfolio. ... disruptive ... architecture of ... gains" we ... have in ... community, ...
From the blog: "'SOA' has become a bad word. It must be removed from our vocabulary." Amen to that. But I hope we don't just jump on the next TLA with the same...
While you were all out of the room, Miko, Ron and I decided that SOA shall be known as "The Architecture formerly known as SOA". Credit goes to Miko primarily,...
I prefer "Architecture until recently known as SOA". See image - http://moon.felk.cvut.cz/~pisem1/blog/KnightsWhoSayNi.jpg :) Dave  _____  From: JP...
I prefer marklar. How about "Architectural style previously known as SOA" ... -Rob ... http://moon.felk.cvut.cz/~pisem1/blog/KnightsWhoSayNi.jpg :) ... ...
Every now and then its kind of hard to tell, but SOA's still and alive and well http://blogs.oracle.com/davidchappell/ Dave  _____  From: JP Morgenthal...
It's certainly one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that it's alive and well in 2009. I think as an all-singing all-dancing transcendental...
BTW Based on my travel schedule over the past several months, which has been about 90% of my time going to meet with customers who are actively engaged in...
To me the message sounds more like "Big SOA" is dead - i.e. those high-priced SOA software packages complete with huge services contracts that some vendors...
Read my post again Eric. I explicitly berated teams for focusing on silly technical debates. It's not a question of big or little SOA or SOAP vs REST. My point...