Those without knowledge and/or experience can often be heard talking in the abstract to illustrate an issue to the best of their ability. When asked for ...
Steve, ( sorry - I missed you comments below - scroll down ) ... Ah, I see. Yes, I agree. Some of this is covered by IETF (e.g. the I-D/RFC aproach, the link...
On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Jan Algermissen wrote: Not sure if this came across correctly: Below I mean that *I* fail to understand, not you. Jan ... Jan...
... I actually find the opposite is true, people often become so mired in the details of one technology path they are incapable of discussing things with...
2009/10/30 Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... So is that the agreed global approach in the whole REST community? Is it a best practice that is...
2009/10/30 Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... Complex means it has a significant amount of business change and a lot of moving parts and people....
... I think he was referring to "all possibilities" within the scope of the REST specification, not all possibilities that could happen in the big, scary...
2009/10/30 Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... Which doesn't exist... which is my point. ... For which there is no currently agreed standard so lots...
What is the OASIS SOA RM if not a concrete definition. Or is it just that people keep wanting "their" local optimisations rather than agreeing some principles...
2009/10/30 Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen@...> ... He was saying that you should expect ANY return type and be able to handle it. To write...
Hiya, ... But any return type in terms of REST is a handful of known ones, no? ... Well, if you include any known schema that could be returned, it's not only...
Wonder if he factors in the cost of supporting it over the next 5+ years.... But seriously if someone is spending $10m on middleware upfront then that person...
Unfortunately not, because people appear to prefer personal "optimisations" and vague statements rather than starting from a concrete base and building up. ...
2009/10/31 Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen@...> ... Depends what you mean by Type. You have HTTP return codes (2xx, 3xx, 4xx, etcxxx) but I...
... This is our approach, the HTTP status code takes you a long way and the response body gives you extra information. The representation used in the response...
... This is precisely why I've always said that as much as RESTafarians want to say that it's about one interface, in the end, you have to know the resource...
2009/10/31 Colin Jack <colin.jack@...> ... Depends on the complexity. In larger programmes those automated tests are brilliant things to have. My point...
Yes, I do. However, not directly. OASIS SOA RA, which implements RM, will be much more concrete in definitions of SOA elements and relationships and will be...
<<Gathering together packets of code and turning them into communications services is on the top of every service providers agenda. But does the typical telco...
<<Since this week brought the eBizQ's SOA in Action conference, I decided it was time to dust off a blog I posted a few months ago that I still believe rings...
... As far as the Web goes, it is. Regarding the Web inside the enterprise: I think it is just starting that people develop ideas of what one would need in...
2009/11/3 Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... So Google and Yahoo both document their services to the IETF approach? ... Which is my concern. A big...
... No. The approach they take is actually not what I'd understand a RESTful description to be. Not even the use of a general media type such a JavaScript for...
2009/11/5 Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@...> ... Which is my point on the lack of standardisation. If even the poster children don't do it "right" what...
Sweta Dave, whoever you are, thank you for this message and its uncomplicated honesty! If only life were so simple - SOA isn't. BTW, please follow Group...
... Yes...a lot of work remains. OTH - how many people get WS-* 'right' (design something that delivers the promised value)? I guess it is just a hard problem...
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