... Sorry, the definition of engineering also has a "subjective" or "creative" aspect: "[T]he *creative *application of scientific principles to design or...
... level ... it? ... Yes Nick, it is too much to ask the entire world. It turns out that "top level architecture" and "detailed design" don't exactly roll off...
I spent last week working with a couple of my enterprise customers. The time was focused around the Shared Service Center (formerly known as the SOA Center)....
See Rob's excellent response to "Joe on ESBs and SOA: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/10385 One of the most...
Ah but then does engineering == design? I'd argue not. People like Brunel and Telford clearly excelled in the architectural, design and implementation phases...
+1 But I will say that WOA could well be a _problem_ for me this month, I've already seen efforts around the things below de-railed by a REST/ESB/Web...
... They are both ugly, horrible languages that we must use. In some senses much like the Porsche or Nissan. Now myself I prefer a Bentley or an Aston Martin...
... of its ... benefits ... porche, the ... and pressure ... being 30mph ... comming around ... lasted for ... Best to try these experiments alone. With a...
... [Excellent points snipped] ... Which would potentially speak to the differing education background rather than to the junior architect's relative...
... I don't think he was arguing for that. And it may have been me that inadvertently made that implicit connection. Clearly, both architects and engineers...
... architecture@yahoogroups.com, "jeffrschneider" <jeffrschneider@...> ... Amen to that! ... Hmm. I've never seen anyone equate SOA with web services except ...
Ada? Wow, I haven't heard anyone mention that in a long, long time. It's been a very long time since I've done anything in Ada but I don't remember it being a...
<<There are some anecdotal claims out there in cyberspace that some companies are struggling with SOA. Mind you, we never really hear who these companies are...
... Not necessarily. Did the engineers actually try to engineer the car to glide through such a cornering maneuver? Or, did they design the car to have...
<<Despite increased adoption, many of the SOA projects are still failing. Things are often getting so bad - there was a recent article with a catchy name SOA...
Cheap, Simple (very simple) and connects anything to anywhere. Does clustering, load-balancing, failover and the config is incredibly simple. Despite finding...
... I'm a picture person so I'd say yes, but with a caveat. There are lots of space cowboy architects out there who deal almost purely in aesthetics over...
... Yes. That was my essential point. Accordingly, the burden is on those who make such a distinction (outside of building architecture) to provide some...
... Anyone who creates anything "performs design activities". Herbert Simon's "The Science's of the Artificial" is a profoundly insightful book regarding...
Steve, I was (incidentally) involved in porting MQSeries to a new Unix platform back in the late '90s and if you'd seen any of the source code then the last...
Nick, While we're getting "bookish", let's not forget Christopher Alexander who describes [1] how: [design/architecture] is the synthesis of form This is by...
ØService-Oriented Architecture (SOA) is an architectural style. Ø ØApplications built using an SOA style deliver functionality as services that can be used...
Which to me as the user was the elegance. I didn't know it was a mess under the covers as all of that was hidden from me. Other products (MQSI for instance)...
... Great points Mike. I thought about bringing up Alexander, because I'm a fan of his approach. I'm sitting here with my marked up copy of "The Timeless Way...
... If you treated Alfa engines with respect (i.e. run them in carefully, warm them up properly, keep well tuned etc.) you could get a lot of exhilirating...
I would disagree with "üA service-oriented architecture is essentially a collection of services"; it is not an architecture. - Michael ... From: Hareesh...
... http://www.sei.cmu.edu/news-at- sei/columns/the_architect/2003/1q03/architect-1q03.htm I think I posted a different link earlier in the discussion but the ...