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11861
Thanks for the discerning answer, Michael. The Order Service and the Inventory Service are autonomic self-contained services. I actually had a case recently...
Dennis Djenfer
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Nov 1, 2008
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11862
... I don't recall you using many/any examples. A *quick* check of your blog turns up nothing either. Can you point me to an example that you believe uses...
Mark Baker
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Nov 1, 2008
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11863
... Ok, so you're in the "blame the technology" camp. I'd rather say don't let little children access matches or sharp knives. And I hope you're not saying we...
Alexander Johannesen
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Nov 1, 2008
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11864
... I'm talking about commercial examples, which is where I've mainly seen people use document passing, including using SOAP over JMS and SOAP over email. ... ...
Steve Jones
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Nov 1, 2008
9:48 am
11865
I do agree with you, Dennis about A and C. I am not sure that option C requires sharing the same pub/sub domain because we always have federation of message...
Michael Poulin
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Nov 1, 2008
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11866
You absolutely right Rob. Not every project will be end up using SO techniques, but there are some which will. Instead of a "SOA project", a better phrase...
htshozawa
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Nov 1, 2008
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11867
... C requires sharing the same pub/sub domain because we always have federation of message brokers with adapters for different communication channels (LAN,...
htshozawa
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Nov 1, 2008
2:28 pm
11868
The A option assumes a predefined process; when it starts, it may not necessary to react to any events except the ones embedded into its own business rules....
Michael Poulin
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Nov 1, 2008
4:33 pm
11869
... Yes, that's my point. Consider that there are millions of developers who have (unknowingly) mastered REST's "Hypermedia as the engine of application...
Mark Baker
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Nov 1, 2008
4:55 pm
11870
If we were to view this example in light of business services, maybe we'd get a different perspective. Here's my 2c: Three business services, Sales, Inventory,...
Udi Dahan
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Nov 1, 2008
10:40 pm
11871
... Ummm so looking at a bunch of airline sites (things I regularly use) I'm not quite seeing them do that. Looking at a bunch of computing manufacturers...
Steve Jones
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Nov 1, 2008
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11872
... The only figure I need is this one; http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~asignori/web-size/ plus the knowledge that pervasive use of hypermedia is a necessary ...
Mark Baker
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Nov 2, 2008
7:13 pm
11873
Thanks for the detailed internal business processes. The question now is, if you were a customer ordering some parts from a company, do you want to contact...
htshozawa
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Nov 2, 2008
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11874
... Errr Mark, you do know the difference between the use of hypermedia and the concept of hypermedia as the engine of state don't you? The two are not a...
Steve Jones
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Nov 3, 2008
2:58 am
11875
The answer is of course that you create a virtual service (or a facade) which presents a view to the customer but in itself doesn't actually deliver the RWE...
Steve Jones
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Nov 3, 2008
2:59 am
11876
... Of course I'm aware of the difference, Steve. But it's immaterial when the links contain sufficient information for the next state in the application...
Mark Baker
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Nov 3, 2008
10:26 am
11877
In the example I gave, the customer is placing the order only with Sales. The fact that it raises events, and receives events from other services isn’t seen...
Udi Dahan
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Nov 3, 2008
10:32 am
11878
Talking about enterprise UI and facade services, especially, business services, here are some ideas about their integration: http://soa.sys-con.com/node/730632...
Michael Poulin
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Nov 3, 2008
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11879
... This thread started off with an example from Roy Fielding of why people using HTTP and claiming it as REST are muppets and should stop doing it. You now...
Steve Jones
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Nov 3, 2008
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11880
<<Many opinions and discussions are going on around SOA payback. Whether, SOA will give better ROI, good control in business operations, best integration...
Gervas Douglas
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Nov 3, 2008
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11881
... If the user feels that it's going to add maintenance cost and requires higher investment, there probably is something wrong. H.Ozawa...
htshozawa
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Nov 3, 2008
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11882
"...and requires higher investment, there probably is something wrong" in the solution design or run-time platform - Michael ________________________________ ...
Michael Poulin
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Nov 3, 2008
12:56 pm
11883
I think budget is a key point here. Too frequently, the IT department and the business owners have separate budgets. In order to "grow" or "mature" their...
Nibeck, Mike
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Nov 3, 2008
3:49 pm
11884
What you just described, Udi, may sound like a Sales Aggregate Service, which is the facade itself. However, if you embed all mentioned events, reactions to...
Michael Poulin
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Nov 3, 2008
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11885
+1 I prefer to think of it as the battle between the proletariat and the evil capitalists, with the IT department proudly declaring itself the People's...
Steve Jones
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Nov 3, 2008
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11886
What is this kool-aid many of you keep invoking? Is it the Devil's Brew or a liquid route to Nirvana? Gervas...
Gervas Douglas
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Nov 3, 2008
4:30 pm
11887
... What are you talking about? I think the discussion is quite clear, and that nobody could reasonably make that assumption based on what I've said in...
Mark Baker
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Nov 3, 2008
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11888
... I agree, at least in part. A part of the reason is possibly this: business "requirements" rarely are. Instead, business requirements documents are usually...
Rob Eamon
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Nov 3, 2008
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11889
I vote Devil's brew. Its the Soylent Green of IT and its made from ground down business people. Steve...
Steve Jones
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Nov 3, 2008
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11890
... constraint? I'm ... of a ... bother ... state. ... Let us not get too emotional, gentlemen. I realise that kool-aid when drunk during a REST v. WS* battle...
Gervas Douglas
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