Hello, I work on an IT company that works for a big enterprise here in Brazil. This enterprise is intending to use Web Services as the main technology for ...
Ian, Thanks for the reply. I registered in order to get access to the papers and now I am waiting for the confirmation. If anything goes wrong, I will contact...
Luis, Your English is excellent. If you look through the archives of this list you'll see a lot of discussion of Enterprise Service Bus (ESB). Unfortunately,...
... This response is at first glance a bit tangential to your request but perhaps it will make some sense. The importance of any of this comes down to needs....
Anne, First of all, thanks very much for answering my questions in such a complete way! By the way, a remarkable characteristic of this group is how helpful ...
<<You've made no bones about the fact that you're pursuing an open source SOA stack and that you've got an ESB coming in 2006. Yet many analysts consider the...
Luis, You are correct -- one of the benefits of SOA is that it gives you more vendor-independence. But at some point you must implement code, and when you do...
Hi Anne, Sorry about the lengthy response, but some of your comments represent a general "picking on" of ESBs as a nebulous composite boogeyman. As you...
Edward Stacy, thank you for the papers. I will certainly read those. Patrick, I think I understand your point. You are saying that, before we get to the actual...
Just a small picky point. Dave you quested Anne on "SOA vs event driven" and then go on to highlight that Gartner makes a distinction between "SOA and EDA". I...
Anne, talking (or should it be writing?) of J2EE, a lot of sizeable companies I came across in a project a couple of years ago were using both J2EE and .NET...
+1 I really dislike the distinction between SOA and EDA, and as you say, the distinction is damaging as opposed to "not useful". SOA supports all types of...
... An interesting, product in this arena is codemesh at http://www.codemesh.com. They provide tools an experience with cross language communications and ...
I have to respectfully disagree with you, Steve. SOA implemented via messaging middleware is not EDA. There is a fundamental difference between an event...
<<The best place to turn for figuring out ROI on Web services and SOA projects is to someone who's been through the calculations many times before and is...
Thanks, Gregg. Codemesh came up in our last discussion of the subject. I don't know them, but those that do speak positively about them. Does anyone know of...
<I believe that when Gartner first espoused "ESB", they were equating "SOA" with "SOAP", and in 2002, SOAP implementations supported only unreliable, ...
Correct me if I am wrong in my technical naïvety, but does this mean we are just providing a comprehensive, stable, connection-orientated, message-handling...
While Anne's statement might be a good observation, it is a gross understatement to refer to that as a "definition of an ESB". I thought was pretty clear in my...
Hmmm... I don't ever say that you *need* an ESB to enable SOA. I think you can effectively enable SOA without an ESB. From my perspective, the only essential...
Hi, I was working on a reply to the original post here but got distracted, so now there are additional replies to reply to ;-) It would be nice if the...
Todd, I understand all that you have written. My problem is that if you build systems as you have described, i.e. so loosely coupled that you have no idea what...
[William, by opening another thread you are not of course disrupting any discussion. Some members of this Group are rather sensitive about "billboarding"...
Hi All, I've posted an entry on my blog today describing how RSS could be used as a Web services registry and how it could also be used as a way for UDDI...
It sounds like we're both saying the same thing, we only differ on whether it is should simply be called SOA or called SOA + EDA. I agree completely with your...
Hi Gervase, Thank you. Yes. In the interest of full disclosure (which you can see on my site) I work for IONA technologies. The ESB I used was Celtix and Open...
William, ... You wrote there; "I Googled to see if anyone else had described doing this but I couldn't find any references to using RSS as a Web services...
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