If you were building an application that is totally within an enterprise what compelling reason would make you even look at WS-RM? I can see if you cross...
... WS-RM is a (or will be) an interoperability standard, JMS is an API. Relying on JMS makes your applications portable, relying on WS-RM will someday make...
Just because it's internal, doesn't mean we don't need it sent reliably. Chances of a failure are probably far less, but if it's a mission critical order...
Hi Stefan, ... Can you explain how they're fundamentally different? Are you familiar with WSDL 2.0? What we're doing in Axis2 and Tungsten is basically provide...
... As does WSO2 Tungsten .. :-). And our impl passed all the interop tests with both MSFT WCF and also the WS-RX working group recently. (Gervas: If this...
Todd, I'm not saying that I don't want it reliable. I certainly do. But I do not need WS-RM to get that. I only need a JMS provider that ensures an appropriate...
... JMS has an API which is equivalent in coupling to the use of WS-RM. Both have specific semantic and technical features that your application should have...
... The power of idempotent service interfaces is something that a lot of people still are struggling to understand. One of the other important issues is ...
... Separating the application from the invocation layer and providing multiple registrations of the service is very important. Keeping these matters separate...
... See below - the key distinction is that a RESTful HTTP service will expose a number of resources, each of them supporting the same interface. When you...
I've always held that SOA governance needs to manage and enforce policy *across* the lifecycle--including design time, run time and change time. I'm not sure I...
Thanks everyone for a valuable insight to this topic. Let me summarize, what I have heard so far related to my need and still try to resolve my open questions....
I have to say I am somewhat surprised by this comment about WS-RM. I believe that most of the WS-RM vendors posting to this list, including ourselves, have...
Steve I think the reason that WSRM will end up being used inside the firewall is the same reason that HTTP is used widely inside enterprises. WSRM has a few...
Unmesh A few points about SOAP+WSRM. Firstly, yes we hope to have WSRM standardised in the September timeframe. Certainly we hope to go into public review in...
... nicely put. REST supports a resource abstraction and WSDL a service abstraction model [snip] ... I think it is possible to do this and have actually...
Thanks Paul for a very valuable information. Now I will have to check with my SOA vendor for "durable" implementation support. One more critical question still...
From my personal weblog <http://loekb.blogspot.com/> : IDC forecasts that worldwide spending on SOA-based external services will reach $8.6 bln in 2006....
Andrew, very cool. I was just thinking about doing the same thing: http://fuzzypanic.blogspot.com/2006/03/httppox-xml-based-eda-pub- sub.html I'll take a close...
One of the little drums that I bang from time to time is that SOA does not have to be restricted to the large enterprise market. It seems a major vendor...
<<Continuing my "SOA versus" theme, I really enjoyed Daryl Plummer's "Web Services At A Crossroads" article in Optimize magazine. In the article Daryl, a...
Hi Stefan, ... Yes I'm familiar with all this .. having participated in this debate since about 2000 .. and repeatedly with Mark Baker and others :). With all...
Hi Stefan, ... Yes I'm familiar with all this .. having participated in this debate since about 2000 .. and repeatedly with Mark Baker and others :). With all...
... That's arguable. A protocol like HTTP has been around the globe a while. One can assume fairly safely it will not change in a backward incompatible way. An...
hi, I am looking for some material regarding complexity issues in SOA. Exact working domain is: Complexity issues in SOA raised by the service growth regards...
I sent this earlier today but it doesn't seem to have made it. Apologies if this becomes a dup. (Not sure whether Gervas is moderating each mail one by one.) ...
... most of BPEL engines work similarly when using WSA (WS-Addressing) to send messages from outgoing queue (with optional sender EPR that point to workflow...
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