Great explanation, Mike. I would recommend to others, if you do not mind, with regard to the workflow. BTW, vertical and horizontal services were introduced to...
How about multiple layers of services, which include a Process as a Service? Process services (composites) à Business Services (Task, entities) à Application...
... Michael, I think that business concept must be hand in hand with coresponding technology suites. We must have OO business concept for object technologies...
From your perspective, you received a service from GE. From GE perspective it is a business process that ended in delivering a service/product to you, a ...
Just out of curiosity, can anybody point me to an example of live "OO business concept"? I would agree with Jerry - we have the disconnection between the...
I'm really struggling to picture the business process that = GE. To say that SOA is limited to usefulness around BP is (IMO) a little odd. I've worked on agent...
XML schemas are obscure to read but XML documents are not. So for every XML data definition, I think it is a best practice to include a typical XML document or...
Business Process not= GE. BP is the interface between customers and the organization. Because BP is defined as such (begin and end with customers in...
... From an analysis perspective -- they're different things. Processes are one entry point into understanding organizational design. But a process design...
Hi , I am sushant,very new to this group. i applied for SOA certification ,if anybody having some sample paper on SOA please help me. Its urgent..... Thanks ...
I disagree with Robin. An XML Schema in graphical representation is quite readable by business users (at least, those I dealt with). - Michael Robin...
You will find good examples of OO business models made for business people in the Naked Objects area http://www.nakedobjects.org/book/ Important to mention...
Thanks for the feedback, Robin. Yes, we had determined that a few instance documents would be useful. Adding comments will be a great way to clarify some of...
I guess it depends on the who is reading the schema / document, but I have the same experience as Robin, i.e. a typical XML document is a very powerful way to...
Apologies for my ignorance. Can someone give me some more details about this SOA certification? On a broader level, what other certificatons & certifying...
... BP is NOT the _interface_ between customers and the organisation. BP is about either the execution or measurement of that interaction. As a customer when...
I am not sure if I have understood the stated correctly. So what your are suggesting here are two things- 1. Business as a set of process is at a lower level...
OO business concept for OO is not as important as SOA business concept for SOA. In other words, as we move up in abstraction, business model becomes increasing...
<< Those closely watching the BPM space realize that this segment of the market has evolved over the past ten years from a number of technology precursors,...
I am new to this group so wanted to say Hi to all members and introduce myself. I am a senior recruiter at Cisco and supporting Enterprise Architecture group...
Hi Robin, I have looked into the nakedobjects.org and announced principles again. They do not answer my question. I asked for an example of BUSINESS being...
Unfortunately, not, Jerry, while I tend to agree with your explanation over all. My point, and you perfectly described it, is that OO does not provide enough...
[ZapFlash] Finding the Real Barrier to SOA Adoption [ZapFlash] Finding the Real Barrier to SOA Adoption Finding the Real Barrier to SOA Adoption Document ID:...
From a business standpoint, a service is too small a unit to really appeal to the business side of the house. Its granularity is too fine. And it's only when...
Above was quote from article by Ismael Ghalimi available at http://itredux.com/blog/2006/08/13/bpm-is-soas-killer-application/ regards, Shashank D. Jha...
Thank you, Shashank, for the excellent article. It reflects my view well except a small portion that is SOA being an architecture for BMP. My take on this ...
Michael, The struggle (induction) has been done once for all so the rest of us simply use deduction which is not a struggle but a disciplined systematic...
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