... I'm not sure he didn't mean this as a rhetorical question. Many on this list believe there is no future in distributed objects. It appears that Peter...
... Please define "uniform" Who is one to know of a text string is a "method" or a data element? Where am I to find out what is being sent over the wire? ...
... I'm not crazy about this paper, but I don't see the problem you are decribing. It can work over http or provide similar interface over other protocols....
All of this talk about CORBA and REST is just great, but the reality of the situation is that IBM, Microsoft, et. al. have adopted SOAP and WSDL precisely...
... Well, I agree with Gartner that SOA is a software design principle. Their quick definition "Essentially, SOA is a software architecture that starts with...
Jeff -- I'm surprised and disappointed that you found it appropriate to flame our conclusions without reading the report. Now, I'm not trying to sell you the...
... I agree that this is to make money, but some of it is to sell ideas that have already been sold. ... I do not think that Web Services are simple. And I...
... It is described as more than that. It typically has a business process in mind and interfaces for that business process. REST doesn't provide that by...
... In terms of object orientation it means: All objects participating in the system only provide methods that have the same meaning for all objects. Invoking...
... Jason, What is the size of the 'TCP/IP' market? It has to be close to $60 billion, doesn't it? What about the HTTP market? Hard to put numbers on them,...
... What does your answer have to do with the earlier response? How is one to know what the "semantics" are in order evaluate what "uniform" means? How...
... Whether you use WSDL/SOAP/UDDI or REST, you implement your business logic with any language of your choice. What is different is that while with the SOAP...
... From Merriam-Webster; "of the same form with others" as in ... "The semantics of the java.lang.Object API are uniform to all Java objects" ... Well, the...
... It's both. As one example of the former, I've raised a couple of architectural issues with the Semantic Web that my understanding of REST helped identify...
... You know this is not helpful. I'm asking for the meaning of uniform in the context of a service, and the extent of the uniformity (across all services,...
This was very clear and informative! I hope it helps answer some of David Forslund's questions. ... That's pretty much where I come down on REST -- it's...
... uses the results would be illustrative of the issue. To "discover" a REST service you need the documentation to understand how to "cook up" the parameters...
... Sending stuff *to* a RESTful Web service is not limited to URL query strings, so waht is the issue here? ... And by 'arguments' you mean what? Parameters...
... Very true ... for RESTful services, distributed objects, and SOAP/WSDL interfaces as well. Even those services that publish a syntactic interface such as...
... So it requires human intervention to figure out how to make the call? I checked out their code and it is at least as complicated as an equivalent CORBA...
... The issue is you have to specify what it is that you want to "get". There has to be some agreement on what a StockQuote "is". That is my only point. ... ...
... This is why standards are so important and why flexibility associated with changes in an interface can lead to problems. It is also why we added things...
... strings, ... Usually REST is HTTP GET with the input arguments passed as paameter after the URL. My point is just that many app servers have a limit of 8K...
David Forslund <forslund@...> wrote on 03.01.2004 20:17:17: [snip] ... Coming from a CORBA background myself, I can relate to a lot of what you're saying....
... Fair enough. I guess I'd put it that CORBA folks *in practice* and REST folks *in practice* add semantic agreement on top of the base technology in order...
On Jan 3, 2004, at 2:17 PM, David Forslund wrote: I'll let someone more familiar with CORBA respond to the assertion that Prescod is "wrong" about it. ... I...
... I would agree. I also would comment that much of what has been proven "good" in the OMG world has been ignored (or reinvented not necessarily better) in...
Having problems with message search?
Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.
