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#571 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:36 pm
Subject: IOUSA Our Economic Future
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 This is basically an economic evaluation of the future if things continue to go in the same direction they are headed.

The critically-acclaimed documentary film I.O.U.S.A. was conceived of, co-written and executive produced by Agora Financial's Addison Wiggin. In July 2008, the film was acquired by The Peter G. Peterson Foundation. It will be featured in a Live Premier with Warren Buffet, Pete Peterson and David Walker ( The former accountant for the US Government) in 400 theatres around the nation on August 21st, 2008. To find out more visit the film's official site or click here to locate a theater near you.

Click here for your personal invitation from Dave Walker to attend the premier on August 21st.

If the links are not active, cut and paste this:

<http://www.agorafinancial.com/iousa.html>

Sharon
San Francisco


#570 From: Dennis Brumm <brumm@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: Are Oil Prices Rising?
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At 10:17 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote:
>Terrible article.  The dollar has fallen 35% against the Euro in the past 6
>years.  Oil prices have gone up 400%.  In a cleared market, demand always
>equals supply; that's the function of price.  About speculation, some call
>it speculation, others call it a prudent hedge against future price
>increases.

The best explanation of oil price speculation, where there is no
intent to receive oil, is this:

There is a superbowl. Imagine betting on it. You can bet team A wins
or team B wins. No matter how many people bet on team A or team B -
it doesn't affect the outcome of the game (barring, of course,
players being bought off etc.).

#569 From: "greengal@..." <greengal@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:17 pm
Subject: RE: Are Oil Prices Rising?
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Terrible article.  The dollar has fallen 35% against the Euro in the past 6
years.  Oil prices have gone up 400%.  In a cleared market, demand always
equals supply; that's the function of price.  About speculation, some call
it speculation, others call it a prudent hedge against future price
increases.

If 35% of the rise in oil's price is currency weakness, and 40% (that's the
number I usually see) is speculation, that leaves a "real" increase of over
100%.

Jeanne


Original Message:
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From: sharon kulz s_kulz@...
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
To: sfoilawareness@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sfoilawareness] Are Oil Prices Rising?


Article on oil price increase as a function of both speculation and dollar
demise rather than as strictly demand and supply.

<http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-There-an-Oil-Shortage--by-Ismael-Hossei
n-zad-080728-49.html>

Sharon





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#568 From: Dennis Brumm <brumm@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:01 am
Subject: Re: Are Oil Prices Rising?
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Article on oil price increase as a function of both speculation and dollar demise rather than as strictly demand and supply.

< http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-There-an-Oil-Shortage--by-Ismael-Hossein-zad-080728-49.html >

I'm sitting here using the imagining techniques from the last post's blog that you linked to, to try to imagine the internet with less misinformation. Gonna likely get worse. Can't argue that the dollar drop isn't part of it, but it seems pretty clear it's peak oil and all the bad stuff is just an eyeblink away and supply and demand are pretty heavily involved. Demand's goin' down some though here. And elsewhere. Then I was just reading the whole list of countries having energy issues (a page I often refer to these days: http://energyshortage.org/ )

Finally, on the very techno optimistic "I seriously doubt it beyond a shadow," I saw this story tonight off the oil drum. How'd our oil get onto their moon? We've always been at war with Saturn, etc. etc. (variation on an Orwell) Oops, it's a long ways to haul it back. Bet we'll find us an entrepreneur somewhere that says s/he can do it, though, heh...

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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080730231339.40cxery2&show_article=1

Liquid flowing on surface of Saturn moon: NASA

NASA scientists said Wednesday they had found liquid on Saturn's moon Titan, only the second body in the solar system after Earth to have fluid on its surface.

The groundbreaking discovery was made after analysis of instruments on the US-European Cassini probe, the spacecraft that has been orbiting Saturn since 2004 following a 3.5 billion-kilometer (2.2 billion miles) voyage.

NASA said in a statement that information from Cassini indicated that large lakes on Titan contained liquid hydrocarbons and ethane.

#567 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:49 am
Subject: Are Oil Prices Rising?
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Article on oil price increase as a function of both speculation and dollar demise rather than as strictly demand and supply.

<http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-There-an-Oil-Shortage--by-Ismael-Hossein-zad-080728-49.html>

Sharon


#566 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:09 am
Subject: Sustainable Future Blog
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For friends who are just starting to "get it" and those who really need to be soft-shoed.

Ladies and gentleman, the Martha Stewart approach to "IT'S AN EMERGENCY!"

Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 1
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-1.html
>
Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 2
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-2.html
>
Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 3
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-3.html
>
Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 4
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-4.html
>
Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 5
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-5.html
>
Imagining a Sustainable Future - Part 6
<http://tim-gamble. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/imagining- sustainable- future-par\
t-6.html
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#565 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:03 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
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I didn't realize that Toshiba had to resort to PR hoaxes to get attention.

Sharon

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Subject: [sfoilawareness] Digest Number 297
To: sfoilawareness@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:16 AM

San Francisco Oil Awareness

Messages In This Digest (3 Messages)

1a.
Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor From: sharon kulz
1b.
Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor From: Andre Angelantoni
1c.
Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor From: Dennis Brumm

Messages

1a.

Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor

Posted by: "sharon kulz" s_kulz@...   s_kulz

Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:16 pm (PDT)

Same small size as the Pebble Bed reactor but different.

<http://www.nextener gynews.com/ news1/next- energy-news- toshiba-micro- nuclear-12. 17b.html>

Sharon

1b.

Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor

Posted by: "Andre Angelantoni" aangel@...   aangelinsf

Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:41 pm (PDT)

Also, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on one's point of
view), a hoax.

http://www.greenliv ingtips.com/ blogs/185/ Toshiba-nuclear- reactor-hoax. html

On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, sharon kulz wrote:

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> Same small size as the Pebble Bed reactor but different.
>
> <http://www.nextener gynews.com/ news1/next- energy-news- toshiba-micro- nuclear-12. 17b.html
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>
>
> Sharon
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>

1c.

Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor

Posted by: "Dennis Brumm" brumm@...   dennisbrumm

Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:32 pm (PDT)

At 09:41 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote:
>Also, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on one's point of
>view), a hoax.
>
>http://www.greenliv ingtips.com/ blogs/185/ Toshiba-nuclear- reactor-hoax. html

Heh.

You just can't believe everything on the internet.

I was sent this today. I am not sure if I've seen it before, Chevron
had their futurama there for awhile that you built youself; may post
it on sfbayoil too:

The MegaCity of Tomorrow

It begins: "By 2030 5 billion souls will be living in cities, up from
3.3 billion people today." Now that we know where the souls will
reside, I wonder how many living people will be in 'em. (me bad)

No traffic congestion, electric cars, driverless buses, jpoddy
devices, algae power parks, walking on the sidewalk generates energy
(oh my!), desalination through micro tubes, robot repair, everything is solved!

http://www.popsci. com/futurecity/ home2.html
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#564 From: Dennis Brumm <brumm@...>
Date: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:32 am
Subject: Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor
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At 09:41 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote:
Also, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on one's point of 
view), a hoax.

http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/185/Toshiba-nuclear-reactor-hoax.html

Heh.

You just can't believe everything on the internet.

I was sent this today. I am not sure if I've seen it before, Chevron had their futurama there for awhile that you built youself; may post it on sfbayoil too:

The MegaCity of Tomorrow

It begins: "By 2030 5 billion souls will be living in cities, up from 3.3 billion people today." Now that we know where the souls will reside, I wonder how many living people will be in 'em. (me bad)

No traffic congestion, electric cars, driverless buses, jpoddy devices, algae power parks, walking on the sidewalk generates energy (oh my!), desalination through micro tubes, robot repair, everything is solved!

http://www.popsci.com/futurecity/home2.html

#563 From: Andre Angelantoni <aangel@...>
Date: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:41 am
Subject: Re: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor
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Also, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on one's point of
view), a hoax.

http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/185/Toshiba-nuclear-reactor-hoax.html




On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, sharon kulz wrote:

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> Same small size as the Pebble Bed reactor but different.
>
>
<http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.1\
7b.html
> >
>
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> Sharon
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#562 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:16 am
Subject: Toshiba's Micro Nuclear Reactor
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Same small size as the Pebble Bed reactor but different.

<http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html>


Sharon


#561 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:21 pm
Subject: Handy Charts
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Some handy  charts compiled by "Tree", who runs the Free Farm Stand on Treat St.
( Sundays  1-3 PM )

<http://www.freeprintshop.org/>

http://freefarmstand.org/


Sharon


#560 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:58 am
Subject: Incredible Wealth
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Here's some folks who certainly don't seem to be very concerned about PO, peak soil, peak $ or peak humanity.

This kind of wealth is simply outrageously incredible. Makes the robber-barons of the last two centuries look like penny-pinchers.

                                 <http://www.dubai-architecture.info/DUB-GAL1.htm>

On the other hand:

                                 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWnhYIIKY0U>

Sharon


#559 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: Community Gardens cropping up everywhere
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Good to some people aren't waiting until the last minute,

<http://newsok.com/community-gardens-are-cropping-up-all-over/article/3270979/?tm=1216243218>
Sharon


#558 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:58 am
Subject: New Suburbia
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The beginning of a new Suburbia.

From another group:

       "Popular wisdom tells us that as the price of transportation climbs the
suburbs will become more isolated and they will be abandoned in favor
of more centralized, walkable communities. But is that necessarily
true? When I lived in the San Fransisco bay area many years ago, one
of my favorite book stores was a converted Victorian house filled with
books. Looking for a book on gardening? You'd be directed to the
gardening room, that had been a bedroom, or a dining room fifty years
before.

In my current tiny home town, rows of houses from the 30's and 40's
are now functioning as stores, coffee shops, cafes, and art galleries.
In a post-oil scenarios, I can imagine a suburban development where a
centrally located row of residences within the development becomes a
general store, a hardware store, a diner, a clinic, a community
library, or any one of a number of services needed by the community
that is this particular suburban development.

Parks and back yards become food gardens, oversized McMansions become
multi-family apartments, and people can stay put in their suburb
without having to migrate to the big city. All that needs to happen is
for zoning laws to change, (or simply cease to be enforced in the
confusion) for some percentage of the suburban houses to become the
kind of local, community business that it takes to support the community.

If I visit the area immediately adjacent to downtown in the nearest
big city to me, Eugene, Oregon, a very large percentage of what were
somewhat "suburban" homes in the 20's and 30's are still standing, and
still in use, but as businesses, not as homes.

All it takes to prevent a forced mass exodus from suburbia is to allow
small local businesses to spring up to fill the needs of the
community, right within the community, instead of being isolated in
distant malls and even more distant city centers.

No matter what big city you might be familiar with, I'm sure you've
seen plenty of centrally located house built 60 or 80 years ago that
are now home to small businesses, or which have been converted to
apartments. Why let those perfectly good buildings go to waste?

If Mohammad can't afford the gas to go to the mountain, then the
mountain must come to Mohammad. If the suburbanite cannot afford the
gas to go to job and market, then the job and the market must come to
the suburbanite."

--gary (62) Willamette Valley ORYGUN US of A


#557 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:04 am
Subject: Matt Simmons turns Farmer
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<http://www.economist.com/people/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11702995>

Sharon


#556 From: Dennis Brumm <brumm@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:55 am
Subject: Re: Pope Benedict on Climate Change
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Irregardless of one's views on religion, there's no getting around the fact that they are an influential lot. Imagine what might happen if the heads of major religions held a summit and declared it a fatwa, a sin or generally a No No to ignore or otherwise contribute to the demise of the environment.


Oh, we'll see about that happening.

I imagine the Pope is probably about as likely to change the world for the better as, well, say George W. Bush is/was/will.

Because it's been a busy week on that church's front - in my mailbox that is - here's some more recent updates from the stories of the Catholic religion:

Australian archbishop or cardinal or some such designation, Pell, warns of Western under-population
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=2&ContentID=84686


This one's (two, actually) even better (lighter than the one above). Jesus, in his wafer form, got KIDNAPPED during ritual cannibalism!!!!:

'Body Of Christ' Snatched From Church, Held Hostage By UCF Student
Initial Article: http://www.wftv.com/news/16798008/detail.html

'Body Of Christ" Returned To Church After Student Receives Email Threats
http://www.wftv.com/news/16806050/detail.html


***

So, I say, "It's real nice the Pope's had a change of attitude on something or another. You need some more, Pope." Then again, maybe he got some inspiration when he was a child, learning the ins and outs of his culture of the day. Here at google books you can find more info on that:

http://tinyurl.com/55n3we

aka:

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=q-LavK2QaMcC&dq=nazi+conservation&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=YKSjO-Qf64&sig=3nv2dkruk2zMxgQrsmGdgDqFqcE&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPP1,M1

The Green and the Brown: A History of Conservation in Nazi Germany

#555 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:23 am
Subject: Pope Benedict on Climate Change
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It's about time some religion besides the armageddonists weighed in on Climate Change.

                 <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080712/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_pope>

    Irregardless of one's views on religion, there's no getting around the fact that they are an influential lot. Imagine what might happen if the heads of major religions held a summit and declared it a fatwa, a sin or generally a No No to ignore or otherwise contribute to the demise of the environment.

    Suppose they further concurred that squandering energy on war and other excesses would send them forthwith to everlasting damnation with no chance to make an 11th hour conversion to the Rapturists ( who are presuming to be spared retribution of any kind by being beamed up en masse at the endtimes).

At any rate, at least the Pope will set a much needed precedent.



Sharon

    




#554 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:39 pm
Subject: The Pickens Plan
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       Seems like a good plan, but he does mention The "Corridor" between Texas and Canada several times.

                           <http://www.cnbc.com/id/25582244>

       This is the same guy who has been buying up immense quantities of land over aquifiers. Being an 80 year old, he couldn't have THAT much greed left in him and he does seem a personable sort.  So it shall be interesting to see what sort of picture these puzzle pieces evolve onto.

Sharon


#553 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 5:15 am
Subject: Fw: Neighborhood Vegetables. Meet Tues. July 8. Organizing Neighborhoods
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An interesting idea whose time has come....matching yardless, skilled gardeners with those who have yards but no time or gardening skills. they';; either sell to markets and share profits or just share the produce.

Sharon
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, LaurenceofBerk@... <LaurenceofBerk@...> wrote:
From: LaurenceofBerk@... <LaurenceofBerk@...>
Subject: Neighborhood Vegetables. Meet Tues. July 8. Organizing Neighborhoods
To:
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:59 PM

Hello Friends,  You are invited to our,

    
             NEIGHBORHOOD VEGETABLES  organizing meeting
              
TUESDAY, July 8, 7 PM
               Fellowship Hall School Building, 2
nd floor
               Bonita
near Cedar, thru the garden gate

How are we going to co-operate with our neighbors to grow food?  We have now a list of about 280 people who say they want to do it, an additional list of neighborhood leaders, and access to further leaders through our City Council People.  The Berkeley Health and Human Services Department has just offered us access to a piece of land on Oregon St west of McGee, and will tell their  expecting and new mothers about us.  Various churches may be interested.  So where do we go from here, so we can walk, preferably, to grow and share food with our neighbors?

The potluck and work party we held a week ago in South East Berkeley was great fun.  So that this can happen more often, I will soon be sending out info on people in each "quadrant":  Oakland, and Berkeley NorthEast, NorthWest, SouthEast and SouthWest.  We can only hope that a few people in each quadrant will want to help organize their Edible Neighborhoods, and that we can have some serious conversations about
how to organize. It is up to all of us, each one in our own way, to move into the next civilization of creative community cooperation.   

     Yours for food and sustainability
     Laurence Schechtman  
     510-540-1975
    



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#552 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:18 am
Subject: Peak Absurdity
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    Such a strange web of corporate/government meddling has replaced the web of nature. Now we are trucking, flying, railroading and shipping all kinds of critters all over the place.

    Despite the fact that they do not accrue frequent travellers miles, wolves, birds, salmon, bees and who knows what other unsuspecting creatures are being trucked throughout the lower 48 in order to provide us with enormous amounts of unhealthy forms of energy and food. (Not to mention the great expenditure of fuel)

Note the incredulous tone of the interviewer:

<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/20/60minutes/main4198581.shtml>

Sharon


#551 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:56 am
Subject: "instant on" Solar Dish
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Parabolic "instant on" Solar Dish at MIT. Can be sized from home to industrial to town.

<http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C370212%2C00.html>

Sharon
San Francisco


#550 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:16 am
Subject: Invitation to The Big ONE - Sustainable Networking and Potluck
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     Come to San Francisco's First and Biggest Potluck ever. There will be many presentations, hands-on demonstrations and classes on skills with which to prepare ourselves, our families and our neighborhoods for what seems to be an unforeseeable future of high food and fuel prices, uncertain financial and climate conditions.

      Check out the attached program.

Sharon
Beautiful Communities


#549 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:26 am
Subject: Genepax Japan presents (Ta ta ta ta ta Dum) The Water-fueled Car
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Genepax Japan's new Water-fueled car. ( This was on Yahoo News briefly today, but promptly got pulled.)

<http://markstechnologynews.blogspot.com/2008/06/genepax-makes-cars-run-on-water-alone.html>

I wonder if Genepax got the technology from Stanley Meyer, who had a number of international patents.
                   <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h75_TGiwg78&feature=related>

And had been approached by Congress, the Pentagon and NASA as well.
                  <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8stApCmxYEM&feature=related>

Japanese Tech site ( In English)
                   <http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080613/153276/>

Water Conversion Kit  (Very informative videos)
                   <http://www.drivewithwaterfuel.com/?hop=muscleblog>

Wait...wait....before breaking out the debunking ammo, get a load of what British TV allows its viewers to see:
                   <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKExuHlQMQ&feature=related>

So, essentially, we could have transportation which somewhat mimics plant life...taking water in...making energy...emitting water.

   It's a da---d  shame that so much of our native-born new tech scientists have to wade through the ridicule of their countrymen, only to have their inventions swooped up and secreted away by the military and foreign companies, while we are left, not only footing the bill for glutinous oil prices, but being inundated daily by mountains of paranoid warnings over the loss of such an albatross.

(Damn..I knew I shouldn't have posted this.)

Sharon
San Francisco


                       




#548 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Mon Jun 9, 2008 1:40 am
Subject: Behind the scenes of oil profits
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 So much for how oil companies have been raking in a percent of their big profits. Why are they so anxious to fix oil rigs at the Peak, anyway?

<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/washington/07immig.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&nbsp;>

Sharon


#547 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Fri Jun 6, 2008 2:16 am
Subject: Fw: The Big ONE is looking to borrow shade structures for June 21 & 22~
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--- On Thu, 6/5/08, Tori Jacobs <tjacobs@...> wrote:
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Subject: The Big ONE is looking to borrow shade structures for June 21 & 22~
To: "Tori Jacobs" <tjacobs@...>
Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 6:10 PM

The Big ONE is looking to borrow shade structures for June 21 & 22~

Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)  Hi Big ONE supporters~

We are looking for 3-4 small pop up shade structures to borrow for the village on June 21 & 22 in Golden Gate Park~~~ We need them for our information booth and a few other miscellaneous needs~  Please put out the word and put this email out to all your list serves!  We would really appreciate your help~

Please contact Tori Jacobs at ToriJacobs@...

Sincerely~  The Big ONE~~~~~~~



#546 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jun 5, 2008 5:36 am
Subject: Water 4 Gas?
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Any mechanically-inclined people know about this?

<http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=watertt>

Sharon


#545 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Thu Jun 5, 2008 4:03 am
Subject: How the Oil Crisis has Hit the World
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 Looks like things are shaping up more as revolutions than as the much-toted "Mad Max" scenario.

<http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/shocked-how-the-oi%5Cl-crisis-has-hit-the-world-837477.html>

Sharon


#544 From: Andre Angelantoni <aangel@...>
Date: Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: Black Light Power Inc
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Google is your friend....

"blacklight power debunked" turns up:

 
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"...fascinating, brilliant and important..." - Tim Black, Director, Marie Stopes International





On Jun 4, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Michele McEntee wrote:

Hi All,

Got this off www.urbansurvival.com today. What do you guys think? Any promise or more hype?

Energy Breakthrough of a Lifetime? 

'Is it really 'ground floor' or hype?" I ask myself. 

Usually, when a company makes an announcement, I toss it immediately into the round file. But the recent announcement by Backlight Power brought to my attention by an email from a reader has me wondering a bit about whether the world is on the verge of dramatic change. 

The very long-range work of the predictive linguistics team has imagery of a much more 'electric' world ahead, but where would the power for such an 'electric world' come from? Solar? Not enough kilowatts and not mobile. In the back of my mind, the 1989 work of Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann in cold fusion keep swirling around. Now the reader email:

quote from Monday.... "...headlines tell us that "Oil price supernova spurs search for alternatives." 

speaking of headlines, Black Light Power, Inc, a private R&D company (with emphasis on cutting-edge atomic physics and chemistry) has been on this trail for 15+ years, last week made an announcement of the completion of a prototype power system that generates 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand using a new energy source. 

"BlackLight Power Inc. is the inventor of a paradigm-shifting new primary energy source and a new field of hydrogen chemistry with broad commercial applications." .... http://www.blacklightpower.com/ 

"The BlackLight process generates enormous amounts of cheap, non-polluting heat that will replace the thermal power of coal, oil, gas, and nuclear power plants that is then converted to energy." 

more on BLP in the wake of the news release here.... http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/30/blacklight-power-claims-nearly-free-energy-from-water-is-this-for-real/ 

but it could be even bigger george. much bigger!!! if you dig into this company's work you'll see what i mean. one of the guys that works with us has been following so-called cutting-edge energy solutions for several years as a hobby. this includes the work of Bearden, et al, which traces back to Tesla and from there back to maxwell. anyone following and investing time and energy in such interests has ended up having their chain pulled so many times they get veeeeeery discriminating. in the case of BLP and its founder randall mills, he managed to get himself accepted as a "business consultant" several months ago. he tells me he's never before seen a "theory" proposed in this field that strives to follow standard scientific practices of review, etc like BLP. he also tells me mills is working on a new paper (that mills is is public info). he's making an educated guess (if he knew for sure he couldn't tell me per NDC agreement) that the paper may introduce and propose a 5th force.... gravity+EM+weak nuclear+strong nuclear+?????. this would, if it proves out, be a walkin talkin paradigm shift in the GUT of classical physics. bigger even that e=mc sq'd. 

its always seemed a no-brainer to me that somewhere there is something like a mirror force to G. so i fired off a query to him... 

-----

care to speculate that F5 will turn out to be the counterpart to G? 

-----

his reply.... 

"No speculation required. It is thoroughly detailed in Chapter 35 of Volume III of his book. It provides a force in opposite direction to gravity and is of a much larger magnitude. Counterpart is an interesting word... Randy has discovered, however, that both the force of gravity and the fifth force are related and caused based on the dimensional curvature of fundamental particles, like the electron. 

-----

Calculations and engineering for a fifth force propulsion device are provided in Chapter 35. Initial calculations demonstrate that the fifth force can be utilized to provide vertical propulsion orders of magnitude more effectively than conventional rocketry as well as providing for effective horizontal propulsion. The aviation industry can expect some major changes in the coming decade. 

Welcome to the revolution!" 

not exactly anti-gravity but space may be a whole lot closer in the very near future. 

just the delusions of back-room junk science and some wackos looking to milk venture $$$$ which is so often the case? "Blacklight, by contrast, claims $60 million in funding, including about $10 million from electric utilities Conectiv and PacifiCorp, as well as amounts from unnamed hedge funds and members of its all-star board of directors, including Shelby Brewer, a Reagan-era US assistant secretary of nuclear energy, and Michael Jordan, CEO of Electronic Data Systems." check out the pedigree on that board of directors! 

the downsides if the science proves out? i can think of several. new (some say it already exists) super-weaponry for one. for another - when civilization is pushed to crisis it has a tendency to go to work to overcome that crisis. i think its called the survival instinct. but it never fails that when humans get hold of something close to a free ride we tend to ride off further into devolution. and another? population will continue to explode and run-away consumerism will continue as we slowly starve and thirst to death while the planet pukes the poison we produce and have become!

but this is HUGE news george and everyone should keep a close eye on the developments over at BLP,

BlackLight Power is owned by Millsian, Inc, and they have some real horsepower, it seems, in computational chemical design technology...and I've downloaded the demo version of their software to see how it plays. 

The key thing for me while looking at the screenshot of their software is that they've got total bond energy and heat of formation energy for each of hundreds of molecules, if not thousands.

So far, this is passing my "sniff test" - it's exactly the kind of development environment from which a world-changing technology could come from... 

It occurs to me that if a company was doing world-class chemical engineering work that they'd be able to run an 'automated Edison" kind of approach and model out which chemical and which bonds would have maximal and minimal heat of formation data. That's why this is passing my sniff test.

The Millsian web site explains the company this way:

Millsian, Inc. is dedicated to developing the molecular modeling applications of The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics (GUT-CP), solving atomic and molecular structures by applying the classical laws of physics (Newton's and Maxwell's Laws) to the atomic scale. 

The functional groups of all major classes of chemical bonding, including those involved in most organic molecules, have been solved exactly in closed-form solutions. By using these functional groups as building blocks, or independent units, a potentially infinite number of molecules can be solved. As a result, Millsian software can visualize the exact three-dimensional structure and calculate physical characteristics of almost any molecule of any length and complexity. While previous software based on traditional quantum methods resorted to approximations and required super computers for even simple systems, Millsian software requires no special expertise to solve complex proteins and DNA on a personal computer. 

No, this is not advise to buy or sell any security - I DON'T GIVE FINANCIAL ADVICE. Besides, I went shopping for them on eTrade this morning and couldn't find a listing. So is this the real deal? Standing by for more developments...but this one has my attention.

Michele in Pacifica



#543 From: Michele McEntee <pacifica1@...>
Date: Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:51 pm
Subject: Black Light Power Inc
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Hi All,

Got this off www.urbansurvival.com today.  What do you guys think?  Any promise
or more hype?

Energy Breakthrough of a Lifetime?

'Is it really 'ground floor'  or hype?" I ask myself.



Usually, when a company makes an announcement, I toss it immediately into the
round file.  But the recent announcement by Backlight Power brought to my
attention by an email from a reader has me wondering a bit about whether the
world is on the verge of dramatic change.



The very long-range work of the predictive linguistics team has imagery of a
much more 'electric' world ahead, but where would the power for such an
'electric world' come from?  Solar?  Not enough kilowatts and not mobile.  In
the back of my mind, the 1989 work of Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann in
cold fusion keep swirling around.  Now the reader email:

quote from Monday.... "...headlines tell us that "Oil price supernova spurs
search for alternatives."

speaking of headlines, Black Light Power, Inc, a private R&D company (with
emphasis on cutting-edge atomic physics and chemistry) has been on this trail
for 15+ years, last week made an announcement of the completion of a prototype
power system that generates 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand using a new
energy source.

"BlackLight Power Inc. is the inventor of a paradigm-shifting new primary energy
source and a new field of hydrogen chemistry with broad commercial
applications." .... http://www.blacklightpower.com/

"The BlackLight process generates enormous amounts of cheap, non-polluting heat
that will replace the thermal power of coal, oil, gas, and nuclear power plants
that is then converted to energy."

more on BLP in the wake of the news release here....
http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/30/blacklight-power-claims-nearly-free-energy-fro\
m-water-is-this-for-real/

but it could be even bigger george. much bigger!!! if you dig into this
company's work you'll see what i mean. one of the guys that works with us has
been following so-called cutting-edge energy solutions for several years as a
hobby. this includes the work of Bearden, et al, which traces back to Tesla and
from there back to maxwell. anyone following and investing time and energy in
such interests has ended up having their chain pulled so many times they get
veeeeeery discriminating. in the case of BLP and its founder randall mills, he
managed to get himself accepted as a "business consultant" several months ago.
he tells me he's never before seen a "theory" proposed in this field that
strives to follow standard scientific practices of review, etc like BLP. he also
tells me mills is working on a new paper (that mills is is public info). he's
making an educated guess (if he knew for sure he couldn't tell me per NDC
agreement) that the paper may introduce and propose a 5th force....
gravity+EM+weak nuclear+strong nuclear+?????. this would, if it proves out, be a
walkin talkin paradigm shift in the GUT of classical physics. bigger even that
e=mc sq'd.

its always seemed a no-brainer to me that somewhere there is something like a
mirror force to G. so i fired off a query to him...

-----

care to speculate that F5 will turn out to be the counterpart to G?

-----

his reply....

"No speculation required. It is thoroughly detailed in Chapter 35 of Volume III
of his book. It provides a force in opposite direction to gravity and is of a
much larger magnitude. Counterpart is an interesting word... Randy has
discovered, however, that both the force of gravity and the fifth force are
related and caused based on the dimensional curvature of fundamental particles,
like the electron.

-----

Calculations and engineering for a fifth force propulsion device are provided in
Chapter 35. Initial calculations demonstrate that the fifth force can be
utilized to provide vertical propulsion orders of magnitude more effectively
than conventional rocketry as well as providing for effective horizontal
propulsion. The aviation industry can expect some major changes in the coming
decade.

Welcome to the revolution!"

not exactly anti-gravity but space may be a whole lot closer in the very near
future.

just the delusions of back-room junk science and some wackos looking to milk
venture $$$$ which is so often the case? "Blacklight, by contrast, claims $60
million in funding, including about $10 million from electric utilities Conectiv
and PacifiCorp, as well as amounts from unnamed hedge funds and members of its
all-star board of directors, including Shelby Brewer, a Reagan-era US assistant
secretary of nuclear energy, and Michael Jordan, CEO of Electronic Data
Systems." check out the pedigree on that board of directors!

the downsides if the science proves out? i can think of several. new (some say
it already exists) super-weaponry for one. for another - when civilization is
pushed to crisis it has a tendency to go to work to overcome that crisis. i
think its called the survival instinct. but it never fails that when humans get
hold of something close to a free ride we tend to ride off further into
devolution. and another? population will continue to explode and run-away
consumerism will continue as we slowly starve and thirst to death while the
planet pukes the poison we produce and have become!

but this is HUGE news george and everyone should keep a close eye on the
developments over at BLP,

BlackLight Power is owned by Millsian, Inc, and they have some real horsepower,
it seems, in computational chemical design technology...and I've downloaded the
demo version of their software to see how it plays.



The key thing for me while looking at the screenshot of their software is that
they've got total bond energy and heat of formation energy for each of hundreds
of molecules, if not thousands.



So far, this is passing my "sniff test" - it's exactly the kind of development
environment from which a world-changing technology could come from...



It occurs to me that if a company was doing world-class chemical engineering
work that they'd be able to run an 'automated Edison" kind of approach and model
out which chemical and which bonds would have maximal and minimal  heat of
formation data.  That's why this is passing my sniff test.



The Millsian web site explains the company this way:

Millsian, Inc. is dedicated to developing the molecular modeling applications of
The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics (GUT-CP), solving atomic and
molecular structures by applying the classical laws of physics (Newton's and
Maxwell's Laws) to the atomic scale.

The functional groups of all major classes of chemical bonding, including those
involved in most organic molecules, have been solved exactly in closed-form
solutions. By using these functional groups as building blocks, or independent
units, a potentially infinite number of molecules can be solved. As a result,
Millsian software can visualize the exact three-dimensional structure and
calculate physical characteristics of almost any molecule of any length and
complexity. While previous software based on traditional quantum methods
resorted to approximations and required super computers for even simple systems,
Millsian software requires no special expertise to solve complex proteins and
DNA on a personal computer.

No, this is not advise to buy or sell any security - I DON'T GIVE FINANCIAL
ADVICE.  Besides, I went shopping for them on eTrade this morning and couldn't
find a listing.  So is this the real deal?  Standing by for more
developments...but this one has my attention.



Michele in Pacifica

#542 From: sharon kulz <s_kulz@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:04 pm
Subject: Further Explanation of the Food Crisis
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Well-detailed explanation of the food crisis.
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080531.RCOVER31/TPStory/TPBusiness/America/?pageRequested=all&print=true>

Sharon


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