hi champs
           i am building one mobile robot and wanna have image
recognition capabilities so that it can identify things and place to
other place. I am studying OPencv  could anyone tell me is it
sufficeint for this type of application ?

  thanx

harish

I'll be giving a slideshow and video show of my recent trip to Japan.

We saw dinosaur robots, toyota's new humanoid robots, robtos that pick up
garbage, do ballroom dancing, and many more!

Meeting is at 7pm in room 256.  Hope to see you there!

Roboteers,
This is a reminder that the Southern Oregon Robotics
Society club meeting is this Saturday (Aug 13).  The
meeting WILL NOT be held at the park as was discussed
at the last meeting.  It will be held at 6:00PM at our
normal meeting room at Brighton Academy 1121 NE 7th
Street, Grants Pass.

No formal program is scheduled, but there will be a
discussion of the club project.  Also, anyone involved
in our Atmel programming "adventure" is encouraged to
bring their questions and sample code for discussion.


We'd also like everyone to bring along whatever they
are working on for show-n-tell, regardless of whether
it's finished or not.  Our show-n-tell activity seem
to have faded a little in the past few months.  This
is our best opportunity to share what we are doing and
inspire one another.  If you are not building
anything...  Shame on you!  That's what this club is
all about.  You still have a couple days to get
something together.  GET BUSY!  :)

See you at the meeting...  Tiger



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hi champs
          i am building one mobile robot and wanna have image
recognition capabilities so that it can identify things and place to
other place. I am studying OPencv  could anyone tell me is it
sufficeint for this type of application ?

thanx

harish

Going to RoboNexus?  Got a robot?

The Robotics Society of America and RoboGames has negotiated for discounted
admission and free booth space to show off your robots!

RoboNexus, the largest robotics event in North America, returns to Silicon
Valley October 6-9, 2005!  RoboNexus features over 50,000 square feet of robot
exhibitions, demonstrations and competitions, as well as educational sessions
delivered by the world's leading roboticists. As a past RoboGames/ROBOlympics
event attendee, you can save $5 off the regular exposition rates and $100 off
the conference rates.

Want to show your robot?

We have limited space available in our RSA expo area to show off your robot. 
But you MUST pre-register at BuildersDatabase:
http://www.buildersdb.com/eventdetail.asp?eventid=133  You will have to create
an account, but the process only takes about five minutes.  If you have a unique
robot, enter it in the Robot Open (you must first enter your robot in the
database, and then register for the RoboNexus event, as the database tracks
robots for events around the world.)  Make sure your robot is affiliated with
this event as "attending".  Just getting a bot in the database doesn't sign it
up for this particular event.

Don't want to bring a bot, but still want discount tickets?

Intelligent, mobile robotics represents a completely new technology sector, with
both B2B and consumer components to it.  The unique RoboNexus
"Events-Within-the-Event" is specifically designed to serve the entertainment,
educational and business development needs of:

Hobbyists, tech savvy consumers and families will want to attend the  RoboNexus
Consumer and Entertainment Expo . Special low price passes allow you and your
family to attend robotics competitions, seminars, special events and robotics
demos: http://www.robonexus.com/consumerexpo.htm

Investment and business development professionals, robot and robotic technology
developers, educators, curriculum developers and academics will want to attend
the  RoboNexus Conference Programs and special events:
http://www.robonexus.com/confprograms.htm


TO REGISTER

Go to:  http://www.robonexus.com/registration.htm

*  To save $100 off your full conference pass, use priority code RNCD100 when
registering.

*  To save $5 off your expo pass, use priority code RNEXD5 when registering.

David,
How many days and which day(s) are the competitions? Looks like we
have to purchase a ticket for each day attending and it seems very
wise to purchase tickets before the event, even wiser to get them
before the end of August.

Joe


--- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, David Calkins - RSA <dcalkins@r...>
wrote:
> Going to RoboNexus?  Got a robot?
>
> The Robotics Society of America and RoboGames has negotiated for
discounted admission and free booth space to show off your robots!
>
clip-clip

If you're bringing a robot, you get in free for all days.

You only need to pay if you're not competing.


-David E. Calkins
Robotics Professor, San Francisco State Univ.
President, Robotics Society of America
Founder, ROBOlympics
http://www.robolympics.net
-----------------------------------------------
Silicon shall replace Carbon.
The revolution will be automated.


Quoting jmiller3931 <robotics@...>:

> David,
> How many days and which day(s) are the competitions? Looks like we
> have to purchase a ticket for each day attending and it seems very
> wise to purchase tickets before the event, even wiser to get them
> before the end of August.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, David Calkins - RSA <dcalkins@r...>
> wrote:
>> Going to RoboNexus?  Got a robot?
>>
>> The Robotics Society of America and RoboGames has negotiated for
> discounted admission and free booth space to show off your robots!
>>
> clip-clip
>
> SF robot meetings are at 7PM on the first Wednesday of the month at
> SFSU's Science bldg - 1600 Holloway, room SCI 256.
>
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Thats great! I still have to get tickets for non-competitors and
would like to know the competition schedule. Do you have anything
put together yet?

Joe

--- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, David Calkins - RSA <dcalkins@r...>
wrote:
> If you're bringing a robot, you get in free for all days.
>
> You only need to pay if you're not competing.
>
>
> -David E. Calkins
> Robotics Professor, San Francisco State Univ.
> President, Robotics Society of America
> Founder, ROBOlympics
> http://www.robolympics.net
> -----------------------------------------------
> Silicon shall replace Carbon.
> The revolution will be automated.
>
>
> Quoting jmiller3931 <robotics@s...>:
>
> > David,
> > How many days and which day(s) are the competitions? Looks like
we
> > have to purchase a ticket for each day attending and it seems
very
> > wise to purchase tickets before the event, even wiser to get them
> > before the end of August.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, David Calkins - RSA <dcalkins@r...>
> > wrote:
> >> Going to RoboNexus?  Got a robot?
> >>
> >> The Robotics Society of America and RoboGames has negotiated for
> > discounted admission and free booth space to show off your
robots!
> >>
> > clip-clip
> >
> > SF robot meetings are at 7PM on the first Wednesday of the month
at
> > SFSU's Science bldg - 1600 Holloway, room SCI 256.
> >
> > http://www.robotics-society.org/images/sfsu_map.gif[1]
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> >
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ing&w3=Us+robotics&w4=Fanuc+robotics&w5=Mechanical&c=5&s=100&.sig=J00
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Here is a short article about a new robot that is being built in Japan.  It
is actually more funny than factual...

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000000057158/

-Jack

Join us this Wednesday for an exciting demonstration on rolling robot platforms.

Dr. Khalid M. Al-Ali, Senior Fellow and Director of Robotics at Carnegie Mellon
University, will showcase an example of their new MAX rover - a inexpensive
camera-based robot currently used by NASA Ames for intelligent and adaptive
robotics/avionics research and development. This robot has stereo vision
cameras, sensors all around, and can be operated remotely - all in a nice small
R/C truck sized platform!

The CMU group developed software components that can be easily integrated -
their aim is to enable users to test different behavior-based algorithms on
actual robots with minimal time investment in learning the details of the robot
and robot specific programming environments. In addition to NASA, the low-cost,
high performance robot platform is also being used by high school students and
colleges - but can also be made into a great hobbyist platform. This past
summer students built their own robots from kits in just a few weeks at CMU's
RoboCamp West.

Even if you don't want to build one, it's a great robot to come and see!

Venue:

San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway St
San Francisco

http://www.robotics-society.org/images/sfsu_map.gif

Roboteers,
This is a reminder that the Southern Oregon Robotics
Society club meeting is this Saturday (Sep 10). The
meeting will be held at Brighton Academy 1121 NE 7th
Street, Grants Pass.  However, it looks like we may be
loosing Brighton after this meeting so be sure to
check the website or watch for this reminder next
month for the new meeting location.  We will be
discussing the various options for a meeting place at
the meeting Saturday.

No formal program is scheduled, but we will be
continuing our discussion of the club project. Anyone
involved in our Atmel programming "adventure" is
encouraged to bring their questions and sample code
for discussion.

As always, we'd like everyone to bring along whatever
they are working on for show-n-tell, regardless of
whether it's finished or not.

See you at the meeting...




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Hi,

My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a high school senior
at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a senior three of my
friends and I decided that for a senior project we wanted to build a
wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make a device that
could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and without a remote
control. We currently have the idea of using ultrasound that could
track a person and follow the exact path of the person around via
multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device that can follow a
person around and carry items for them. Our purpose for contacting
you is to get some advice from people studying this field and seeing
how feasbile this project is. We were also interested in getting
you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking method and
figuring out the steps involved in making this project work. Any
help or advice would be much appreciated.




From,

Daniel Schultheis

High Tech High

bumskateboarder@...
(619) 218-1831

--- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, "bumskateboarder"
<bumskateboarder@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a high school senior
> at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a senior three of my
> friends and I decided that for a senior project we wanted to build
a
> wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make a device that
> could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and without a remote
> control. We currently have the idea of using ultrasound that could
> track a person and follow the exact path of the person around via
> multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device that can follow a
> person around and carry items for them. Our purpose for contacting
> you is to get some advice from people studying this field and
seeing
> how feasbile this project is. We were also interested in getting
> you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking method and
> figuring out the steps involved in making this project work. Any
> help or advice would be much appreciated.

The thing about ultrasonic transducers is that they don't care where
the reflection comes from.  Floors, walls, cabinets, people;
whatever.

See the curves for a typical transducer:
http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R145-SRF08.html

You might look for a Passive Infrared Sensor (I bought one from a
compnany in either NZ or AU one time).  These are sensitive to
motion of people or at least bodies radiating heat.  I'm not certain
how you make it directional - at least the one I have is more like a
half dome than a beam type of device.  But, there may be one
available.  Or hack a motion sensor...

Then you can use ultrasonic to keep the distance to the target
somewhat constant.

You might try ultrasonic and track by noting that certain bodies are
not getting closer based on the bot speed.  But it is based on the
target moving relative to the background.  When the person stops,
nothing is moving relative to the background.  Something like that
might work but I think the PIR is the way to go.

Good luck!

Yeah maybe just have the person wear a pager type low
power transmitter and you could easily triangulate the
radio signal from the robot and maintain a specified
distance. Could even vary that distance with speed so
when the person stops or runs the robot maintains an
appropriate distance. Anything else seems like it may
be difficult to differentiate WHO its actually
following.

Good luck
Adrian

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>    From: "bumskateboarder"
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> Subject: High Tech High School Senior Project
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a
> high school senior
> at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a
> senior three of my
> friends and I decided that for a senior project we
> wanted to build a
> wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make a
> device that
> could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and without
> a remote
> control. We currently have the idea of using
> ultrasound that could
> track a person and follow the exact path of the
> person around via
> multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device that
> can follow a
> person around and carry items for them. Our purpose
> for contacting
> you is to get some advice from people studying this
> field and seeing
> how feasbile this project is. We were also
> interested in getting
> you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking
> method and
> figuring out the steps involved in making this
> project work. Any
> help or advice would be much appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Daniel Schultheis
>
> High Tech High
>
> bumskateboarder@...
> (619) 218-1831
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:52:52 -0000
>    From: "rtstofer" <rstofer@...>
> Subject: Re: High Tech High School Senior Project
>
> --- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, "bumskateboarder"
> <bumskateboarder@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a
> high school senior
> > at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a
> senior three of my
> > friends and I decided that for a senior project we
> wanted to build
> a
> > wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make
> a device that
> > could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and
> without a remote
> > control. We currently have the idea of using
> ultrasound that could
> > track a person and follow the exact path of the
> person around via
> > multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device
> that can follow a
> > person around and carry items for them. Our
> purpose for contacting
> > you is to get some advice from people studying
> this field and
> seeing
> > how feasbile this project is. We were also
> interested in getting
> > you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking
> method and
> > figuring out the steps involved in making this
> project work. Any
> > help or advice would be much appreciated.
>
> The thing about ultrasonic transducers is that they
> don't care where
> the reflection comes from.  Floors, walls, cabinets,
> people;
> whatever.
>
> See the curves for a typical transducer:
>
http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R145-SRF08.html
>
> You might look for a Passive Infrared Sensor (I
> bought one from a
> compnany in either NZ or AU one time).  These are
> sensitive to
> motion of people or at least bodies radiating heat.
> I'm not certain
> how you make it directional - at least the one I
> have is more like a
> half dome than a beam type of device.  But, there
> may be one
> available.  Or hack a motion sensor...
>
> Then you can use ultrasonic to keep the distance to
> the target
> somewhat constant.
>
> You might try ultrasonic and track by noting that
> certain bodies are
> not getting closer based on the bot speed.  But it
> is based on the
> target moving relative to the background.  When the
> person stops,
> nothing is moving relative to the background.
> Something like that
> might work but I think the PIR is the way to go.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> SF robot meetings are at 7PM on the first Wednesday
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> room SCI 256.
>
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Daniel-

Consider an alternate sensor approach - locating an "active" beacon on the
person to be followed, and utilize "passive" sensors on the bot to detect
and track the beacon. A pager-sized project box could easily contain an IR
source and electronics. You'll probably want to modulate the IR signal so
that it can be distinguished from other sources of IR (like the Sun). The
bot could use as few as 2 IR sensors to detect and determine the direction
of the beacon, and provide input to an onboard microcontroller to handle
steering. The distance-to-follow issue is a bit more complex, but you might
be able to measure the intensity of the IR and compute an approximate
distance.

See www.parallax.com for examples of sensors and microprocessors that could
be employed to build your bot. Try googling mini-sumo robot to see examples
of simple IR-based sensors and support circuits that could be a starting
point for your design

Good luck!

-Rick

Hey Joe!

You sending the Rovers?  HOw did you want to work FireFighting?

Quoting jmiller3931 <robotics@...>:

> David,
> How many days and which day(s) are the competitions? Looks like we
> have to purchase a ticket for each day attending and it seems very
> wise to purchase tickets before the event, even wiser to get them
> before the end of August.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, David Calkins - RSA <dcalkins@r...>
> wrote:
>> Going to RoboNexus?  Got a robot?
>>
>> The Robotics Society of America and RoboGames has negotiated for
> discounted admission and free booth space to show off your robots!
>>
> clip-clip
>
> SF robot meetings are at 7PM on the first Wednesday of the month at
> SFSU's Science bldg - 1600 Holloway, room SCI 256.
>
> http://www.robotics-society.org/images/sfsu_map.gif[1]
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
>
> 	 Photo library[2] 		 Mechanical engineering[3] 		 Us robotics[4]
> 	 Fanuc robotics[5] 		 Mechanical[6]
>
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>
>  *  Visit your group "sfrsa[7]" on the web.
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Yeah maybe just have the person wear a pager type low
power transmitter and you could easily triangulate the
radio signal from the robot and maintain a specified
distance. Could even vary that distance with speed so
when the person stops or runs the robot maintains an
appropriate distance. Anything else seems like it may
be difficult to differentiate WHO its actually
following.

Good luck
Adrian

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>       1. High Tech High School Senior Project
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>       2. Re: High Tech High School Senior Project
>            From: "rtstofer" <rstofer@...>
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>    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:00:05 -0000
>    From: "bumskateboarder"
> <bumskateboarder@...>
> Subject: High Tech High School Senior Project
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a
> high school senior
> at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a
> senior three of my
> friends and I decided that for a senior project we
> wanted to build a
> wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make a
> device that
> could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and without
> a remote
> control. We currently have the idea of using
> ultrasound that could
> track a person and follow the exact path of the
> person around via
> multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device that
> can follow a
> person around and carry items for them. Our purpose
> for contacting
> you is to get some advice from people studying this
> field and seeing
> how feasbile this project is. We were also
> interested in getting
> you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking
> method and
> figuring out the steps involved in making this
> project work. Any
> help or advice would be much appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Daniel Schultheis
>
> High Tech High
>
> bumskateboarder@...
> (619) 218-1831
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>    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:52:52 -0000
>    From: "rtstofer" <rstofer@...>
> Subject: Re: High Tech High School Senior Project
>
> --- In sfrsa@yahoogroups.com, "bumskateboarder"
> <bumskateboarder@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Daniel Schultheis and I'm currently a
> high school senior
> > at High Tech High in San Diego California. As a
> senior three of my
> > friends and I decided that for a senior project we
> wanted to build
> a
> > wireless robot device. We basically wanted to make
> a device that
> > could follow a person around WIRELESSLY and
> without a remote
> > control. We currently have the idea of using
> ultrasound that could
> > track a person and follow the exact path of the
> person around via
> > multiple pings. Our goal is to create a device
> that can follow a
> > person around and carry items for them. Our
> purpose for contacting
> > you is to get some advice from people studying
> this field and
> seeing
> > how feasbile this project is. We were also
> interested in getting
> > you're opinions on using ultrasound as a tracking
> method and
> > figuring out the steps involved in making this
> project work. Any
> > help or advice would be much appreciated.
>
> The thing about ultrasonic transducers is that they
> don't care where
> the reflection comes from.  Floors, walls, cabinets,
> people;
> whatever.
>
> See the curves for a typical transducer:
>
http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R145-SRF08.html
>
> You might look for a Passive Infrared Sensor (I
> bought one from a
> compnany in either NZ or AU one time).  These are
> sensitive to
> motion of people or at least bodies radiating heat.
> I'm not certain
> how you make it directional - at least the one I
> have is more like a
> half dome than a beam type of device.  But, there
> may be one
> available.  Or hack a motion sensor...
>
> Then you can use ultrasonic to keep the distance to
> the target
> somewhat constant.
>
> You might try ultrasonic and track by noting that
> certain bodies are
> not getting closer based on the bot speed.  But it
> is based on the
> target moving relative to the background.  When the
> person stops,
> nothing is moving relative to the background.
> Something like that
> might work but I think the PIR is the way to go.
>
> Good luck!
>
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For those who haven't seen Dr. Gavin's snake robots, I HIGHLY recommend the trip
to Palo ALto to see this.


----- Forwarded message from DrGavin@... -----
     Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:16:33 EDT
     From: DrGavin@...
Reply-To: DrGavin@...
  Subject: Gavin Miller's Snake Robot Talk this Wednesday
       To: DrGavin@...

I am giving a talk on my snake robots, this Wednesday at the Museum of
American Heritage in Palo Alto,  I hope that you can make it, and please tell a
friend if he or she might be interested.

Thanks,
Gavin.

(Details at http://www.moah.org/events/)

"Snake Robots for Search and Rescue"

Wednesday, 7:30 pm, September 14, 2005
Dr. Gavin Miller



Dr. Gavin Miller presents his private research project developing a series of
snake-like robots. These have been developed to investigate serpentine
locomotion and include snakes that can slither, sidewind and use rectilinear
motion.
The presentation will include a description of his latest snake robot S7, as
well as a discussion of the future suitability of this and other snake robots
for search and rescue in collapsed buildings. The focus will be on how the
snake robots work and potential applications.
Dr. Miller's snake robots have been featured on Good Morning America, the
BBC, in New Scientist, Popular Mechanics and in numerous other publications and
at technical conferences. They have been exhibited at MOAH, The Tech Museum in
San Jose, the Cite Des Sciences in Paris and the robot exhibit of the Leonardo
Da Vinci science museum in Milan, Italy. Further information can be found at
www.snakerobots.com/.
The presentation will be in the Frank Livermore Learning Center. Exhibit
galleries, featuring MOAH's Robot! Merging Man and Machine (including some
earlier
models of snake robots) will be open beginning at 7:00 pm.
Fee: MOAH members: Free, Non-members: $5.00


----- End forwarded message -----

Dr. Gavin Miller presents his private research project developing a series of snake-like robots. These have been developed to investigate serpentine locomotion and include snakes that can slither, sidewind and use rectilinear motion. The presentation will include a description of his latest snake robot S7, as well as a discussion of the future suitability of this and other snake robots for search and rescue in collapsed buildings. The focus will be on how the snake robots work and potential applications.

For those who haven't seen Dr. Gavin's snake robots, I HIGHLY recommend the trip
to Palo ALto to see this.


----- Forwarded message from DrGavin@... -----
    Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:16:33 EDT
    From: DrGavin@...
Reply-To: DrGavin@...
 Subject: Gavin Miller's Snake Robot Talk this Wednesday
      To: DrGavin@...

I am giving a talk on my snake robots, this Wednesday at the Museum of
American Heritage in Palo Alto,  I hope that you can make it, and please tell a
friend if he or she might be interested.

Thanks,
Gavin.

(Details at http://www.moah.org/events/)

"Snake Robots for Search and Rescue"

Wednesday, 7:30 pm, September 14, 2005
Dr. Gavin Miller



Dr. Gavin Miller presents his private research project developing a series of
snake-like robots. These have been developed to investigate serpentine
locomotion and include snakes that can slither, sidewind and use rectilinear
motion.
The presentation will include a description of his latest snake robot S7, as
well as a discussion of the future suitability of this and other snake robots
for search and rescue in collapsed buildings. The focus will be on how the
snake robots work and potential applications.
Dr. Miller's snake robots have been featured on Good Morning America, the
BBC, in New Scientist, Popular Mechanics and in numerous other publications and
at technical conferences. They have been exhibited at MOAH, The Tech Museum in
San Jose, the Cite Des Sciences in Paris and the robot exhibit of the Leonardo
Da Vinci science museum in Milan, Italy. Further information can be found at
www.snakerobots.com/.
The presentation will be in the Frank Livermore Learning Center. Exhibit
galleries, featuring MOAH's Robot! Merging Man and Machine (including some
earlier
models of snake robots) will be open beginning at 7:00 pm.
Fee: MOAH members: Free, Non-members: $5.00


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(Details at http://www.moah.org/events/)

 
"Snake Robots for Search and Rescue"

Wednesday, 7:30 pm, September 14, 2005
Dr. Gavin Miller

 

Dr. Gavin Miller presents his private research project developing a series of snake-like robots. These have been developed to investigate serpentine locomotion and include snakes that can slither, sidewind and use rectilinear motion. The presentation will include a description of his latest snake robot S7, as well as a discussion of the future suitability of this and other snake robots for search and rescue in collapsed buildings. The focus will be on how the snake robots work and potential applications.

Dr. Miller's snake robots have been featured on Good Morning America, the BBC, in New Scientist, Popular Mechanics and in numerous other publications and at technical conferences. They have been exhibited at MOAH, The Tech Museum in San Jose, the Cite Des Sciences in Paris and the robot exhibit of the Leonardo Da Vinci science museum in Milan, Italy. Further information can be found at www.snakerobots.com/.

The presentation will be in the Frank Livermore Learning Center. Exhibit galleries, featuring MOAH's Robot! Merging Man and Machine (including some earlier models of snake robots) will be open beginning at 7:00 pm.
Fee: MOAH members: Free, Non-members: $5.00

Good day sirs

Iam an Architect in profession and  A hobbiest on electronics ,

i was wondering if both fields on idustrial designer will join hand
in hand in robotics technology and maximize use of automation in
architecture. this will elevate more progress on our field.

Is there a web site or links with our groups that give a practical
application of robotics in our day to day activity.

Ex. an Intelligent canopy , Kinetic buildings , a micro robots that
automatically clean sewerage systems of a building ,.
i still have plenty of ideas to share which i belive profitable when
manufactured and applied in the field of architecture and building
designs.

Thanx,

meaux

Summer is almost over and we are gearing up for Fall classes. Right now you can
sign up for our very popular Electronics Prototyping class starting Sept. 29.
Learn basic electronics while you design and build your very own printed circuit
board. By the end of the class you will take home a working gadget of your own
design! There are just a few slots left so sign up soon.

We are also offering our brand new "Making Stuff with Stuff" class starting Oct.
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or mechanical structure. No need to worry, just sign up for our four week
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To sign up for any of our classes, just go to
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We could also use your help in deciding which classes to schedule next. Please
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For those of you interested in programming robots, particularly in
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The RidgeSoft Team

This should be a great event


SPEAKER: Dr. William "Red" Whittaker
          Professor of Robotics, Carnegie Mellon University - East

TITLE:   "The 2005 Grand Challenge -- Racing For The Future"

DATE:    Tuesday, September 20.

TIME:    7:00pm  Lecture
          4:00pm-6:00pm Demos, Live Music, Refreshments
         (See http://www.researchpark.arc.nasa.gov/openhouseSept20.htm

LOCATION: Outdoors near the CMU-West campus.
          (Building 23 Moffett Field)

The DARPA Grand Challenge is an (almost) annual robotic vehicle
"race" sponsored by DARPA (your tax dollars at work)
run over a desert off-road course.
(See http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/ for details.)

The first race held in early March 2004 ended with
CMU's Red Team going the farthest distance autonomously.
The second race will be held the first week of October 2005
and again the CMU Red Team will be competing.

Professor Whittaker is the Red Team leader and will talk about
the issues and challenges with autonomous robotic vehicles.

For those of you that want to see a different type of robot event
other than the RoboNexus, come up north to Seattle for the Robothon on
October 8th and 9th.

With 10 different events, including the ever increasing popular Robo-
Magellan contest, and a real robot building workshop, this will be the
event of the year.

Read all about the different activities and schedule at the Robothon
website www.robothon.org

I would love to see all you guys and gals come up to Seattle and be
part of the Robothon.

If you are thinking about competing, please register your robots so we
can prepare for you.

Pete Miles

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn8037

Is there a meeting tonight?

Yup

-David E. Calkins
Robotics Professor, San Francisco State Univ.
President, Robotics Society of America
Founder, ROBOlympics
http://www.robolympics.net
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The revolution will be automated.


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Speakers in SF this Wednesday
This month's speaker is Roger G. Gilbertson, President, Mondo-tronics Inc. and
Founder of RobotStore.com.
Send in the Robots: What, Why, When and How?

What is it about robots that fascinates us so? What motivates us to
create them?
Should we fear what we make?

Join Roger G. Gilbertson, award winning designer, robot builder, founder of
RobotStore.com, and past president of the Robotics Society of America for a
fast-paced exploration of the possibilities and perils we may discover on the
robotics frontier.

Roger's articles have appeared in Nuts & Volts, Servo, and others. He has
performed in theater, on television and given many public presentation on
technology, creativity and the future.

After the meeting, we'll have time to network, show off robots (if you've got
one, bring it!) and talk about upcoming events!



-David E. Calkins
Robotics Professor, San Francisco State Univ.
President, Robotics Society of America
Founder, ROBOlympics
http://www.robolympics.net
-----------------------------------------------
Silicon shall replace Carbon.
The revolution will be automated.

Given there are so many other robotics events this
weekend (Robonexus, Robothon, DARPA Grand Challenge,
X-Prize Cup), it was decided to slide this months club
meeting one week to October 15th.

We no longer have access to Brighton Academy as a
meeting place so this meeting will be held at 6:00PM
at Abbys Pizza next to Fred Meyers in Grants Pass.  We
will meet in the main building and not in the annex
building that we have used in the past.  This will
probably continue to be our meeting place until we
find a new permanent location.

See you there!

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